Shane vs Dechaine

Also, if this really is about the wing ball, what about when Shane played Donny and he made the wing ball something like 83 out of 85 breaks? That was how many years ago?

or when corey perfected the soft break?

did everyone here stand up and cry "he's got the best break ever!" or did they say "he sure knows how to rack 'em".
 
Mainplayer said:
Let me start by saying, you guys should pick up a book. Shane is an unreal player, probably the best right now, but when he was racking the balls he was feathering the 1 ball that left a space on the corner ball. There is so way in hell that that corner ball should fly in like that. NO WAY!!! I understand if the table just happened to rack like that but this one didn't. Even Alex said he was up to something and was upset about it.

Now for all you guys calling me a Douche. Look at your little hero Shane in the finals of the banks. The guy called a ball 4 rails and thought he won the game after it went two rails. Not only that, some guy beat him in the 4th round of the 9 ball and forgot to put up a point in the middle of the set. Of course Shane knew nothing about it. WOW. I think you need to reevaluate your champ. LMAO. Boy he does play good though.
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I saw that 9ball match ,I couldn't believe what happened . :-(
 
hmmm interesting stuff being said in here, i will keep an open mind about this. Mike the only thing holding me back from liking you as player is the way you chalk your cue! use your left hand and you too spidey lol :thumbup:
 
the420trooper said:
Good points. It's obvious that Shane has the game to beat anyone, especially after what we've seen in the last month. I have nothing but respect for his game. Stories about his occasional less than professional behavior are starting to pile up...

Did anyone consider that maybe Mike wasn't just acting like a douche, maybe he was actually pointing out something that most are too star-struck to notice? Esp. if what Mikey says is true....Shane's break is not 200% better than everyone else's.

Props to Mike D. for having the balls to come on here and defend himself against a bunch of rose-colored-glasses-wearing n00bs.
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Mike did the right thing by calling somebody on something that he believed was being done, which was more or less proven by the ref's call. He's also got more balls than most to come on here and explain himself, too. I'm not aware of his past actions, but like he said, this is about what happened at the DCC.

Shane didn't do himself any favors with his actions at this year's DCC.. maybe he's joined the dark side! (Earl's voice) "Shane, I am your father!"

Troop, I'd like my free T-Rex, please.

Free Hat!
 
I wonder what The Pearl would think about the situation with the bank game. (where Shane called a 4-railer)
 
Banks said:
Mike did the right thing by calling somebody on something that he believed was being done, which was more or less proven by the ref's call. He's also got more balls than most to come on here and explain himself, too. I'm not aware of his past actions, but like he said, this is about what happened at the DCC.

Shane didn't do himself any favors with his actions at this year's DCC.. maybe he's joined the dark side! (Earl's voice) "Shane, I am your father!"

Troop, I'd like my free T-Rex, please.

Free Hat!
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Rawr.

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Joe T said:
Thanks for the recommendations there guys. I used to do that on the Camel tour with the refs but rather than hope they watch the dvds lets try to get a format that will be easier and more consistent.

I don’t think either player is out of line, not too far out anyways. Between players at this level I don’t think there is anything more important than the rack and then the break. I would simply suggest using a magic rack, a slug Dr or tap the table so both players are getting pretty much the same rack and then I suggest alternate breaks to give both players an equal opportunity.
Someday we’ll all get along :)
Am I dreaming or what?
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You, sir, are a crazy man! Haha..j/k. Your suggestion is a good one.

KMRUNOUT
 
Mainplayer said:
Let me start by saying, you guys should pick up a book. Shane is an unreal player, probably the best right now, but when he was racking the balls he was feathering the 1 ball that left a space on the corner ball. There is so way in hell that that corner ball should fly in like that. NO WAY!!! I understand if the table just happened to rack like that but this one didn't. Even Alex said he was up to something and was upset about it.

Now for all you guys calling me a Douche. Look at your little hero Shane in the finals of the banks. The guy called a ball 4 rails and thought he won the game after it went two rails. Not only that, some guy beat him in the 4th round of the 9 ball and forgot to put up a point in the middle of the set. Of course Shane knew nothing about it. WOW. I think you need to reevaluate your champ. LMAO. Boy he does play good though.
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Mike, Shane racking or not racking to your liking, really has nothing to do with your own performance at the table. It have been different if you'd never even got to the table to shoot because Shane ran 7 racks and out, but he didn't. The bottom line is, when you're at the table...you're the one doing the shooting, not Shane, and the bottom line is...you did nothing to keep Shane from beating you...you didn't stand up for yourself and play YOUR game, in which you lost the match before the first break even took place. Instead of focusing on Shane's racking the balls, you should have focused on your OWN game, took control of the table...and ran out as many racks as you could, make every ball you could have made, and not missed the balls you shouldn't have missed.

The Mike that beat Archer with a 10 and out from the first break, wasn't the Mike that played Shane, had it been, you wouldn't have said one thing about Shane's racking...now, would you have?

Look Mike, it's just you...and the other guy, stop all this, believe in yourself, and like in boxing....defend yourself at all times...with your cue, making balls...THAT'S the name of the game, and the nature of the beast.

Shane didn't just beat you, you helped him win...by doing nothing to stop him from beating you, not on THAT day, not in THAT match, and Mike...you know the truth, learn from it Mike, and play better tomorrow, as it a lesson to learn, and a new day to try something new....play harder next time. ;)

Glen
 
I give Mike credit for coming on here and explaining his side of the story. Whether or not you like Mike is not the issue here. Only the players know what really happened. Mike said that Alex was complaining also. Last year at the SBE Earl was complaining about Alex tilting the rack. I guess the rack will always be an issue when the same wing ball keeps getting pocketed. Here's a question: were the players in the 80's and 90's able to pocket the wing ball with the same consistancy? If not, why?
 
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javi2 said:
Here's a question: We're the players in the 80's and 90's able to pocket the wing ball with the same consistancy? If not, why?
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This is 2012, what did or didn't take place back in the 80's really had no impact on what's taking place today. Hell, Simonis cloth wasn't even on hardly any pool tables back in the 80's, so how much different was that back then, compared to today? Your question has nothing to do with anything...not really:grin:
 
I beg to differ, snake boy.....my question is why is this more an issue now than say 10 years ago.....your reply, on the other hand, has nothing to do with anything.....
 
I do give Mike a lot of credit for coming here and explaining things. After reading what he wrote he makes some good points. No person is without flaws.
 
javi2 said:
I beg to differ, snake boy.....my question is why is this more an issue now than say 10 years ago.....your reply, on the other hand, has nothing to do with anything.....
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Because of the enet, 10 years ago, you had to go and SEE for your self what was going on, now today...all you have to do is join the peanut gallery to discuss everything going on...like your opinion is going to matter, or change anything.
 
javi2 said:
I beg to differ, snake boy.....my question is why is this more an issue now than say 10 years ago.....your reply, on the other hand, has nothing to do with anything.....
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Your signature line says it all buddy, "ya got to make it...to take it" What other explanation to you need to understand why Mike lost to Shane? He got to the table more than once, REGARDLESS of Shane's racking or breaking, that's nothing but an excuse for losing. Bottom line is, Mike DIDN'T shoot back....end of story! All of you need to stop looking for excuses as to why Mike lost, he failed to fight for every ball, and every rack...and THAT'S why he didn't win one game against Shane, it's NOT like Mike DIDN'T get to shoot....he did!!!
 
realkingcobra said:
Your signature line says it all buddy, "ya got to make it...to take it" What other explanation to you need to understand why Mike lost to Shane? He got to the table more than once, REGARDLESS of Shane's racking or breaking, that's nothing but an excuse for losing. Bottom line is, Mike DIDN'T shoot back....end of story! All of you need to stop looking for excuses as to why Mike lost, he failed to fight for every ball, and every rack...and THAT'S why he didn't win one game against Shane, it's NOT like Mike DIDN'T get to shoot....he did!!!
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I don't think anyone here is making excuses for Mike, including Mike himself.

He just wanted to bring the issues to light.
 
Rack your own is bullshit. I hate it. You opponent should have to rack for you and you for him. I hate breaking my own rack. Unless I am playing one pocket. That game is better to be played as RYO.
 
realkingcobra said:
Because of the enet, 10 years ago, you had to go and SEE for your self what was going on, now today...all you have to do is join the peanut gallery to discuss everything going on...like your opinion is going to matter, or change anything.
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So why belong to a forum at all? Why post? Why read it?

KMRUNOUT
 
realkingcobra said:
Your signature line says it all buddy, "ya got to make it...to take it" What other explanation to you need to understand why Mike lost to Shane? He got to the table more than once, REGARDLESS of Shane's racking or breaking, that's nothing but an excuse for losing. Bottom line is, Mike DIDN'T shoot back....end of story! All of you need to stop looking for excuses as to why Mike lost, he failed to fight for every ball, and every rack...and THAT'S why he didn't win one game against Shane, it's NOT like Mike DIDN'T get to shoot....he did!!!
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Mike didn't in any way suggest that the reason he lost was because of anything involving the rack. The rack issue and Mikes performance were essentially unrelated. Trust me, he has made other complaints in matches in which he demolished his opponent.

If you see the rack issue as an excuse for losing, then it is YOUR excuse. Mike never made that excuse, only you did. In fact, he ONLY said something about the rack before the match began...he didn't know whether he would win or lose at the time.

KMRUNOUT
 
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