Shane's racking "trick"
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I spoke with Thorsten Hohmann about this, he says the magic rack becomes a trick shot because the wing ball goes every time. So really its about, most players don't want to spend 5 hours just racking and breaking to master the skill. They want magic rack so they can drop a ball and be on their way.
You could flip that around and say Mike Dechaine and players who could win the world tournaments, just stay home and dont compete in China or Qatar.
The point he was making is that Shane is #2 in points and #1 in Money, but everyone always says he hasnt won a world championship so he isnt a world champion. But yet he is ranked #2. JB was exposing the irony of the whole situation
How about in a MAJOR tournament, being played on only 9 tables, we have trained neutral rackers? It seems so freaking obvious.
I realize that having enough people qualified to do it properly is a challenge, but for just 9 tables it shouldn't be that daunting. Jay is the TD, and there isnt anyone more qualified to make sure said people knew their stuff, well enough to do the job.
I remain baffled as to why this hasn't been implemented.
We saw Shane get destroyed by those guys ,, and theres better over there ,, Mikes not in that class
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If the one ball is on the spot, then the wing ball is wired with the magic rack. Which is why they play the 9 ball on the spot.
Details make a big difference
If they don't participate that's their problem. Shane doesn't win yet he makes more money than everyone else and he is second in the world anyway.
Must all be because of the break.
You can't say that if Dechaine didn't play....he's having an excellent year.
Also, the KO brothers aren't here so anything is pure specualtion. If they are all powerful, where are they? At home.
Shane has been everywhere this year. Its a marathon for the points, not a sprint. I for one would like to see the KO brother's put in the time to go to everything.
Also Shane beat up on KO pretty bad at the CSI invitational. You seem to forget that.
So when a player hits low left from breaking from the left, and masters a ball on the break with magic rack and nine on the spot...I guess your reaction would be to ban hitting low left on your break.
Leave the rules alone and bring your game. That's how it should be.
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I agree with Bill - this is almost identical to what I proposed to Justin 2-3 years ago. It would solve a lot of the problems and still give us the opportunity to see racks 'strung together'.
Potential here!!!
Mark Griffin
I agree with Bill - this is almost identical to what I proposed to Justin 2-3 years ago. It would solve a lot of the problems and still give us the opportunity to see racks 'strung together'.
Potential here!!!
Mark Griffin
There was a moment when Antonio Linning was ranked World No.1
Nothing against the guy but he's nowhere in the top ten if we talk about the skills.
He made it to World No.1 by high finish in the majors. That's how the ranking goes.
Back to Shane's racking controversy.
1. Did he break any rule ?
- NO
2. Did the rule say "you have to tight up every ball together" ?
- NO
So, NO, Shane did not cheat.
By the way, the problem is, the rule is not and will never be perfect.
How many times did we see a guy get away with his crime ?
How many times did we see company make profit by making their way around the rule ?
That's life. There are written rule and moral rule.
People less and less give a shit about moral rule. Sad !
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Sounds good but players would complain the other guy is getting a better rack from the "neutral" racker. After all, it is pool.
Magic rack, 9 on the spot, everybody gets the exact same rack. Best player wins, not the best rack mechanic.
They obviously don't care how far do you think that cash they snapped Shane off for goes in their country ,,Shane's second in a Ranking that means nothing and tells nothing
The Ko boys proved that rankings don't mean squat
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I am also a fan of DO but at the last Swanee he pattern racked and soft broke, neither of which were allowed.
I also donlt understand why a neutral racker is not used.
There was a moment when Antonio Linning was ranked World No.1
Nothing against the guy but he's nowhere in the top ten if we talk about the skills.
He made it to World No.1 by high finish in the majors. That's how the ranking goes.
Back to Shane's racking controversy.
1. Did he break any rule ?
- NO
2. Did the rule say "you have to tight up every ball together" ?
- NO
So, NO, Shane did not cheat.
By the way, the problem is, the rule is and will be never perfect.
How many times did we see a guy got away with his crime ?
How many times did we see company make profit by making their way around the rule ?
That's life. There are written rule and moral rule.
People less and less give a shit about moral rule. Sad !
Some good points here.
In sports, every sport has always been about getting an edge. Pine tar in baseball. or how about shots of cortisone to get a roughed up player through the second half of a football game? How about the player who takes a dive in soccer and wins that penalty kick?
The rules are there, and it's up to players ingenuity and advancement in equipment/medicine to gain an advantage. It's competition. What Shane does is not against the rules (like you said), and I don't believe immoral at all (certainly not like kicking your ball out of the weeds in golf, or point shaving in basketball).
Let's keep it all in perspective.
While i agree with you that some will complain, do you believe that Jay would tolerate much of that?
And yes, he cannot be the TD and be racking. But I expect that if Jay believes in a persons ability to provide a proper rack, he won't tolerate the noise as the TD, either.
It seems obvious. Have qualified and dependable people provide the rack, and tell the players to hit it. End of story.
The beauty of this is ''riding on the coattails of the wording US Open''
The entire Planet, when they hear the term US Open....they think of mostly the US Open tennis event on the East coast. The general public knows two players will be locking horns and going head to head playing sets with maybe a tiebreaker.
Many corporations make sure no one duplicates their name in any way, because of what it took to create a successful business model & branding.
We already have the correct naming thanks to Barry....why the hell not try it???????????????????????? Give me ONE good reason, just one. And pro players....tell us all why this does NOT make sense!!!!