SHARKING is a myth............

I must be getting better...had a situation on Friday night.

Back story...myself and this witch used to bartend at the same bar. One night while I'm working, she comes in and is drinking and drugging in the bathroom. I let this slide for a little bit, as she is a co-worker. When she began ejecting people's songs out of the jukebox in favor of her own, I cut her off. She pulls the butt of her cue out of her case and threatens to beat my a$$ with it...so I throw her out. I quit the job shortly thereafter, but been bad blood ever since.

So, she's in where I'm playing on Friday. I haven't been able to play for a while, so I was having a great time...win or lose. So, I'm down on the 8 that needs to go down table to the corner. I had seen her out of the corner of my eye walk by...so, I am now half expecting what happens next. Yep, in the backend of my final stroke when the bump comes. I didn't even stand to reset, as I still felt pretty good with my stance and stroke. Took a couple of more practice strokes and then pocketed the 8 ball down table as I had initially planned. Never even looked at her.

With focus, and determination...the shark attempt can be easily ignored.

Where's that "Like" button?
 
Where's that "Like" button?

Hahahahaha. :D

The satisfaction in her seeing that it didn't phase me one bit, was probably even better than winning the game. My dad used to say...'like water off a duck's back'.
 
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What really amazes me is how people can live with themselves when they shark others. I really don't like losing and I really don't like missing out on an opportunity to win a few dollars but I just can't understand stealing someone else's moment in the sun.

Do they not see that their sharking debases their own character?

Do they think so little of themselves that they are prepared to besmirch their own good name?

Have they so little pride in their own self-worth that they don't mind stooping to these depths just to win a few dollars?

Is their moral fiber so tainted that this is the only manner in which they can feel good about themselves?

I'm really perplexed as to how a person can feel good about themselves in purposefully trying to inhibit another person's ability to play their best.

Is that what this game is all about? If so, it's no wonder that our sport is the gum on the bottom of the world's shoe.
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The same thing happens where I go , several of the guys are so loud when they aren't playing that you can't think , I've even worn earplugs.
When they finally get someone down to rob for 5 dollars, they expect everyone to be quiet as a church mouse and give them all due respect, and cannot understand how anyone could get upset.
 
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Recently one of Louisiana's best players was howling like a hyena, trying to match up with another player, WHILE I was gambling at a table nearby. It was a tough match for me and his constant yelling and the constant squealing was getting to me. I played for a few hours and broke even for the night so I feel like I kind of overcame the sharking.

This player is known for his sharking ability and almost always outsharks anyone who plays his game. On another subsequent night, he was gambling at stakes much higher than I played for and was feeling the heat with a much better visiting player and was not playing well. There were some card players having a good ole time and everyone now and then one of them would let out a shriek, not as loud as the hyena screech but loud anyway. Once at the local player was just about to shoot with cue in hand behind the line, a straight in shot with simple stop shape, he heard the card player's wail and hit the object ball right into the rail.

Yeah, you're supposed to be able to fade that kind of crap if you are a gambler, right?

I heard that he got sharked after I left by a sweat-bettors head bob but I never saw that. Really, you're supposed to be able to ignore all of those silly distractions?

Sharking and aiming systems are just a couple of myths. Real pool players don't use aiming systems and sharking doesn't bother them. :killingme: :winknudge::ok::rotflmao::rotflmao: :lmao:

I am more than a little surprised that a player of your ability is even the least bit
susceptible to sharking - maybe it is because you believe in aiming systems:)??

As a younger player I was very easy to shark - and then would get pissed, so it was
doubly effective.

Once I learned to play well - my opponent is more than welcome to tap dance on the
rail if he thinks it will help.(it won't)

And I am 99 44/100ths % certain I don't play even close to your speed.

Dale(unsharkable in Seattle)
 
Sharking is everywhere, intentional or not, especially in 'upscale rooms' ( most are large bars with 'food' that happen to have pool tables ). People are loud, as is the music, and there is no respect for gamblers. The wait-staff will walk right in front of you as you're shooting, or ask you if you need something as you shoot at the game ball!
Everyone on the rail is an expert on the game, and talk loud about every shot you play!
Theses places are terrible to gamble in, but thats all that is around my area.
I was bullet-proof when I was young, now, I'm not.
I try to get off in a corner to gamble if possible. Sometimes I just say ' I'll play some later'. But, if I'm betting good money, I wont put up with somebody sharking me ( unless I'm stealin...lol ). If it bothers me, I just sit down and wait till the 'shark' goes away. If it's my opponent, I just say 'I'll wait till you're done to shoot' ( could be minutes....could be hours ) Basically, I embarrass him in front of everyone. Usually works, if not, thats why I have a joint in my cue, its comes apart.
 
The late Mike "Geese" Gerace said that if a pool player is on his game, he can't be sharked.

Those who can be sharked, that's a crink in their pool armor, like a tell in a poker game. It will be exploited.

Once a person acquires the mechanical skills of pool, the rest is mental fortitude and strength. Sharking won't matter.;)
 
In my grassroots opinion, I really beleive that people who have the aforementioned "pathological dread" are really looking for an extra excuse to miss, fail, or lose and are made sensitive by the extra pressure that comes from gambling or competition.

i watched a AAA player lose to a B player in a race to 5 a couple weeks ago, because of loud woofing between 2 other people, 25 feet away...and admittedly it distracting.

I doubt the AAA player lost for any of the reasons mentioned in your post, especially not the 'pressure' from the B player.....just sayin.
 
Sharking is very real. Mizerak admitted to being sharked. Rempe admited to being sharked, Varner, Sigel, Strickland etc etc etc
While its nice to say "nothing bothers me while IM playing" not everybody shares that same opinion. If its true for you great, no skin off anyones nose. Other players are used to quieter conditions where people arent being overly loud. And sometimes non-audible things can shark too Thats why there are rules of etiquette in pool, namely sit down and shut up while your opponent is at the table. Dont walk in front of somebody who is down on a shot if it can be helped etc etc etc.
Im convinced the people who say they are unsharkable prefer or at least usually play in bar atmospheres and or pool halls that are of the loud thumping music, game room style. Its the same type of players who think a traditional pool hall is boring.
Chuck
 
Any sport that requires FINE MOTOR SKILLS will be affected by distractions from others ( sharking) or disturbances from the natural environment. Pool requires Fine motor kills.

Sharking and other distrations will rarely affect the sports with Gross motor skills- Foot ball,soccer,etc.
Both Fine motor skills and Gross motor skills are seen in sports like Volley Ball, Tennis etc. and noise made by the crowd can affect the outcome of a shot.

One has to be a rock or box of rocks for not to be affected by sharking in a game of pool.
 
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The loud yelling and screaming sounds 10 times as bad in a quiet room. Library pool rooms are fine until someone sneezes. I started playing in bars at 14 years old around the NY docks. Most of those bars were bucket of bloods and loud. You can get use to the noisey places, but not the sudden noise in a very quiet poolroom. Johnnyt
 
Recently one of Louisiana's best players was howling like a hyena, trying to match up with another player, WHILE I was gambling at a table nearby. It was a tough match for me and his constant yelling and the constant squealing was getting to me. I played for a few hours and broke even for the night so I feel like I kind of overcame the sharking.

This player is known for his sharking ability and almost always outsharks anyone who plays his game. On another subsequent night, he was gambling at stakes much higher than I played for and was feeling the heat with a much better visiting player and was not playing well. There were some card players having a good ole time and everyone now and then one of them would let out a shriek, not as loud as the hyena screech but loud anyway. Once at the local player was just about to shoot with cue in hand behind the line, a straight in shot with simple stop shape, he heard the card player's wail and hit the object ball right into the rail.

Yeah, you're supposed to be able to fade that kind of crap if you are a gambler, right?

I heard that he got sharked after I left by a sweat-bettors head bob but I never saw that. Really, you're supposed to be able to ignore all of those silly distractions?

Sharking and aiming systems are just a couple of myths. Real pool players don't use aiming systems and sharking doesn't bother them. :killingme: :winknudge::ok::rotflmao::rotflmao: :lmao:

When I read about the MIT blackjack card counting teams I am amazed at the level of training they go through. They have to be able to hold the accurate count even with very high levels of distraction. They are yelled at, flirted with, physically accosted and other things to prepare them to stay focused.

And then you have the Filipinos. They get natural training just from the culture. The videos of Efren playing in a semi-open air hall with roosters crowing and the sounds of traffic and dozens of people milling around the table are priceless. It must be a dream for him to play in an air conditioned hall with only a few people barking several tables away.

We don't get that level of training and are actually taught to be quiet when we play. We are taught that it takes a quiet space to be able to concentrate. So that's why we do get distracted by movement and noise.

Sharking is real, both intentional and unintentional. But we can become shark-proof with some intense training. I vote for going to the Philippines to train.
 
When I read about the MIT blackjack card counting teams I am amazed at the level of training they go through. They have to be able to hold the accurate count even with very high levels of distraction. They are yelled at, flirted with, physically accosted and other things to prepare them to stay focused.

And then you have the Filipinos. They get natural training just from the culture. The videos of Efren playing in a semi-open air hall with roosters crowing and the sounds of traffic and dozens of people milling around the table are priceless. It must be a dream for him to play in an air conditioned hall with only a few people barking several tables away.

We don't get that level of training and are actually taught to be quiet when we play. We are taught that it takes a quiet space to be able to concentrate. So that's why we do get distracted by movement and noise.

Sharking is real, both intentional and unintentional. But we can become shark-proof with some intense training. I vote for going to the Philippines to train.

John,

Tell Joey about the time you sharked yourself buying flowers as you were about to win a long set of 1-pocket. :) LOL (Don't be mad that I brought it up, you don't really have to tell the story)...and, I can always remove this post, I've done it before, right Mr. A ;)

Your friend (hopefully still),
Dave
 
Im convinced the people who say they are unsharkable prefer or at least usually play in bar atmospheres and or pool halls that are of the loud thumping music, game room style. Its the same type of players who think a traditional pool hall is boring.
Chuck

I resemble that remark! There are a few things that work against me, though.
 
It is a bar, distractions happen. I do know what you mean though. We have a few people in our local pool hall that do the same thing but when it happens to them, it is the end of the world.
 
It is a bar, distractions happen. I do know what you mean though. We have a few people in our local pool hall that do the same thing but when it happens to them, it is the end of the world.

If you are good enough you wouldn't have to worry about it Tim as you would just beat them to a pulp anyway (in some cases/bars). Remember what I always say "please give me motivation to play better". Sometimes all it takes is a little nudge to bring out some strong shooting! :D
 
It seems odd but when I am at the table i notice very little around me. I am sure I hear the jukebox, people talking, walking around and such but I just do not notice it at all. All of the leagues and tournaments are played in bars around hear so I suppose its just the norm. My wife always tells me that I cant see or hear, maybe she is right, it may be a benefit. :D
 
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