Siming Chen vs Donny Mills

The DCC 9-Ball races are to 9. Woodward's streamed matches this year were:

Woodward d. Orcollo 9-5 (Round 12)
Aranas d. Woodward 9-5 (Finals, 1st Set)
Woodward d. Aranas 9-7 (Finals, 2nd Set)

Totally off topic, the DCC went to races to 9 instead of 7, 5 or 6 years ago to become a WPA sanctioned event. The recently announced WPA sanctioned event at Griff's is a race to 7. If DCC 9 ball went back to 7, that would help the scheduling fiasco:)
 
I must not get out much. I had no idea that women were being treated so badly. I had NO IDEA!

Shame on the men folk!

Have I missed something that involves (natural) gender equality?

Reason I ask is because Russ and a few others make it sound like we are still in the early 1900's.... or even earlier.

That's exactly the way I see it, as there are quite a few guys on here that want to come up with every reason in the world why Siming Chen doesn't REALLY play at the level her Fargo rate says she does, to include questioning the methodology of the dude who frickin' invented the whole rating system.

And Mike has numerous times come on here to provide examples of why the ratings are accurate to within a few points, male or female, but you have guys intentionally ignoring that..
 
Totally off topic, the DCC went to races to 9 instead of 7, 5 or 6 years ago to become a WPA sanctioned event. The recently announced WPA sanctioned event at Griff's is a race to 7. If DCC 9 ball went back to 7, that would help the scheduling fiasco:)

2012 was the last year for races to 7 in 9-Ball at DCC (and at the Southern Classic in Tunica). As for the scheduling problem at DCC, I'd rather it be addressed in other ways than by returning to races to 7 in 9-Ball.
 
Jason,
I said that based on what SVB has done to others in that format, including Dennis Orcollo, not that I would actually think that would be the betting line nor am I interested in placing a bet on this hypothetical matchup as I'm not John Barton. I do think it would be between 25 and 30 games if you would like to steal some money on this should hell freeze over and this match happened.

I guess you just can't have nuanced conversations with at least half of the people in the world anymore without someone trying to stifle the conversation with their outrage.

Isn't that about what Fargo says it should be? So then why throw out the "she needs 50 games" bs
Jason
 
2012 was the last year for races to 7 in 9-Ball at DCC (and at the Southern Classic in Tunica). As for the scheduling problem at DCC, I'd rather it be addressed in other ways than by returning to races to 7 in 9-Ball.

I agree. Race to 7 in 9 ball is almost a joke between two shortstops. Between two pros, race to 7...lol... they may as well flip a coin and skip the match.

Pros and short races mix like oil / water....
 
huh? misogyny? statements must be punished?

you need to get that sandy vagina checked out, amigo. I think it's chronic.

love,

lou

It's not "brave" to take advantage of someone's misogyny. YOU are the one who said he would probably beat her by 50 games.

Such wholly ignorant statements must be punished in order for the new wave of women to get the respect that their efforts deserve.
 
"Isn't that about what Fargo says it should be? So then why throw out the "she needs 50 games" bs"

What I think would happen vs betting line.

SVB would outperform his Fargo because the game played does matter.
 
"Isn't that about what Fargo says it should be? So then why throw out the "she needs 50 games" bs"

What I think would happen vs betting line.

SVB would outperform his Fargo because the game played does matter.

No one plays their best when they're leading by 30+ games. That's when players tend to slack off and just go through the motions.
 
The DCC 9-Ball races are to 9. Woodward's streamed matches this year were:

Woodward d. Orcollo 9-5 (Round 12)
Aranas d. Woodward 9-5 (Finals, 1st Set)
Woodward d. Aranas 9-7 (Finals, 2nd Set)

Thank you for the correction. I am getting old and losing my memory fast. :(

I wish I could find the scores from earlier rounds. I think he played several other top filipinos.
 
Have Shane play Siming some ryo template rack 10 ball to 100 and see what would happen to her rating. He would probably beat her by 50. Then have them play nine on the spot 9 Ball and it would be much closer. I understand the system treats all games the same but they aren't. How much it matters you probably already know.

I will say that Shane doesn't beat her by 50 games. If you have anyone to put up the 10-20k on Shane, I will put mine in on Si Ming.

What makes you think that she doesn't practice 10 Ball considerably already? What skillset do you think that she lacks that make her a 2:1 underdog in games won against Shane?

Mike? Can you or have you run the numbers on 9 ball vs 10 ball only and the resulting ratings?
 
What skillset do you think that she lacks that make her a 2:1 underdog in games won against Shane?

It's because she has a vagina, and everybody "knows" that anyone with a vagina is inherently inferior to anyone with a penis.

IF by some miracle someone with a vagina beats someone with a penis, there MUST have been extenuating circumstances. Penis person had a 4 day leg cramp.... Table was too loose/too tight/too slow/too fast/had too much light/too little light/etc.

And the funny thing is, he can't see how incredibly sexist the "by 50 games" statement was. Or knows, and doesn't care... And you bet whatever you want he doesn't have the balls to say something like that to her in person.
 
It's because she has a vagina, and everybody "knows" that anyone with a vagina is inherently inferior to anyone with a penis.

IF by some miracle someone with a vagina beats someone with a penis, there MUST have been extenuating circumstances. Penis person had a 4 day leg cramp.... Table was too loose/too tight/too slow/too fast/had too much light/too little light/etc.

And the funny thing is, he can't see how incredibly sexist the "by 50 games" statement was. Or knows, and doesn't care... And you bet whatever you want he doesn't have the balls to say something like that to her in person.

Well since there is roughly the same difference (30 points) between her and SVB you would bet on her with no games. I gaurnatee you if they played you would ask for some kind of odds.

However everybody knows this matchup isn’t going to happen and everybody knows why. Regardless of whether she has a vagina or not she simply can’t win. What the score would be, well everybody has an opinion but it won’t change the outcome.

You keep saying because she has a vagina is the reason she can’t win. You keep implying that just because has a vagina that she can beat anyone who has ever put a cue together. This is simply not the case. Regardless of your body parts it’s what you can do on the table that counts.
 
Well since there is roughly the same difference (30 points) between her and SVB you would bet on her with no games. I gaurnatee you if they played you would ask for some kind of odds.

However everybody knows this matchup isn’t going to happen and everybody knows why. Regardless of whether she has a vagina or not she simply can’t win. What the score would be, well everybody has an opinion but it won’t change the outcome.

You keep saying because she has a vagina is the reason she can’t win. You keep implying that just because has a vagina that she can beat anyone who has ever put a cue together. This is simply not the case. Regardless of your body parts it’s what you can do on the table that counts.

What kind of nonsense is this? 30 points is a huge difference in a race to 100. Nobody EVER said it's an even game.
Jason
 
I will say that Shane doesn't beat her by 50 games. If you have anyone to put up the 10-20k on Shane, I will put mine in on Si Ming.

What makes you think that she doesn't practice 10 Ball considerably already? What skillset do you think that she lacks that make her a 2:1 underdog in games won against Shane?

Mike? Can you or have you run the numbers on 9 ball vs 10 ball only and the resulting ratings?
None at 2-1 but her break10 ball would certainly be a big disadvantage with Shane race to 100 , I could not get a percentage past 100-70 which has her winning 81% of the time ,I think 75 is getting in range , 80 I think is a Shane lock , I do know no way her backers put her in at that number , no shame there I doubt anyone around her rate is running to that game , except maybe Ruslan


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What kind of nonsense is this? 30 points is a huge difference in a race to 100. Nobody EVER said it's an even game.
Jason

From the same guy who refused to give odds when she was the player with the 30 point rating advantage. If her and Donny had played 3 like what was scheduled it would have been a race to 42 basically. Yes a race to 100 is different, but it’s funny how people start back pedaling when the shoe is on the other foot.
 
From the same guy who refused to give odds when she was the player with the 30 point rating advantage. If her and Donny had played 3 like what was scheduled it would have been a race to 42 basically. Yes a race to 100 is different, but it’s funny how people start back pedaling when the shoe is on the other foot.

I didnt refuse, and I actually bet on the match, his bout you?

If people think their player will win, why TF would I give odds? Do you know anything about gambling?
Jason
 
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