Simmonis Vs. Gorina Cloth

[RBLilly]

Hey guys,

Just curious what everyone's opinion is on Simmonis Vs. Gorina Cloth?

I know that there are tons of different grades so here is the grade of Simmonis I am looking at. 860HR I don't know what this is compared to as far as Gorina's models.

But how would you compare the two? What is better about each and why?

 

[Black-Balled]

Don't overthink it...they are all fine choices.

As you prob already thought, one should consider if playing on the same stuff as that outside FIRST your house is a concern. If it is, gotta go w/ Simonononis

 

[RBLilly]

72 views and only 8 votes? LMAO

Oh well I do appreciate the advice I am getting. Thanks people!

 

[cigardave]

I've got 860 on my 9' Pro Am and I like the way it plays and the way it looks (tournament blue with cherry-stained Dymondwood rails)... a virtual Sea of Blue... very pleasant on the eyes.

I've also bought 860HR but I bought it in advance due to the excellent price I was offered. I'm guessing that I'm a couple of years from installing it as RKC recovered my table when he set it up last June.

Haven't tried the others... so I didn't vote.

 

[sfleinen]

Old schooler

Hey guys,

Just curious what everyone's opinion is on Simmonis Vs. Gorina Cloth?

I know that there are tons of different grades so here is the grade of Simmonis I am looking at. 860HR I don't know what this is compared to as far as Gorina's models.

But how would you compare the two? What is better about each and why?

I guess I'm an old-schooler and appreciate the "hell of a stroke" aspect one has to develop on nap cloth (like Gorina) versus worsted cloth (like Simonis). Plus, if you play on leagues -- APA/BCA/VNEA/TAP/etc. -- more often than not, the barbox equipment one will be playing on will NOT have Simonis on it, but some low-end nap cloth, due to cost-concerns by the proprietor of the establishment one plays in league at. So if you play league on barboxes, chances are that getting used to nap cloth is a good thing. BTW, comparing Gorina's great nap-cloth product with some of the crap that many establishments put on their barboxes is certainly not intended, and I know the Gorina product plays a lot better. Just getting used to nap cloth in general is a great skill to have in your bag o' tricks.

Hope this is helpful!
-Sean

 

[Kevin Lindstrom]

Mine

I like simonis but then that's all I am familiar with.

Kevin

 

[MilwShooter]

If you play a certain cloth for league play or always the same watering hole, use what they use...just get tighter pockets at home.

Don't overthink it...they are all fine choices.

As you prob already thought, one should consider if playing on the same stuff as that outside FIRST your house is a concern. If it is, gotta go w/ Simonononis

Here Here

 

[poolstar31]

I like Championship - Tour Edition the best. Its like Simonis only better.
But, as others have said, it depends on what you will be playing on the most.

 

[Saturated Fats]

Not much difference

My home table has Gorina. It's worsted like 860. Most of the places I play have 860 and I used to play at a place that had Championship cloth. I don't really think there is a dime's worth of difference between any of the three.

Never had any trouble switching from one place to the other.

 

[The Prodigy]

I have nappy stuff on my 8ft here at home, and I dont really enjoy playing on it. I love simonis and would like to replace my felt on my table with it but just cant afford it. Does a company make a comparable product to Simonis 860 Tournament Blue? That is alot cheaper than $214.00?

 

[9BallPaul]

Gorina

I've got Gorina on my home table that's coated with Teflon. Plays just fine, and I have no trouble switching to Simonis. And after a year of two hours per day practice, it shows no wear and tear, except where my lousy stroke has nicked the felt. But I do clean it daily.

 

[pooltableproCP]

The Gorina Granito Basalt is equivalent to Simonis 860 in regards to wool/nylon ratio and both are worsted. In a head to head test in my local area, the Gorina lasted a fair amount longer. It is also slightly less expensive at around $190 on a 9' cut. But what's great about having choices is just that, you have a choice! Both are top notch surfaces!

 

[knoxpossum]

The Gorina Granito Basalt is equivalent to Simonis 860 in regards to wool/nylon ratio and both are worsted. In a head to head test in my local area, the Gorina lasted a fair amount longer. It is also slightly less expensive at around $190 on a 9' cut. But what's great about having choices is just that, you have a choice! Both are top notch surfaces!

I second that. I have Gorina Granito Basalt on my home table and a local pool hall owner has switched to it because he says it wears better. I think it may actually have slightly more wool than Simonis 860. He says that his regulars have no complaints and that they haven't noticed a difference.

 

[bayoublaster400]

Boy it sure is nice to see someone else besides me wake and smell the coffee and see that there are actually cloths out there that are not only as good as Simonis, but even possibly better. That being said by not only players now but owners alike. Don't get me wrong. I'm no Sominonis hater but I truely believe it had to be a matter of time before someone came out with something that was a better value than overpriced Simonis. That being said, I will say that Simonis is still one of the best out there no doubt, but still the best? Not so sure now.
Sorry I can't vote as I only used Simonis, Tour Edition, and Velocity Pro and liked each one but am more partial to the Velocity. Guess I'll have to give the Gorina a shot next. Good luck

 

[RBLilly]

Thanks for all the replies!

I loved the way my table played with Simmonis 860 on it, so I opted for Simmonis 860HR cause I hear it is longer lasting typically.

 

[Roadking]

I've got gorina on my bar box & it's been on about 10 years. The table still rolls nice. Theirs a hole wearing where the head ball in the rack sits. And where we break from theirs alot of wear but it doesn't affect any shots. I will replace it with gorina again. Just trying to get my money's worth. Ha Ha No moneys tight rite now & I want to install new rails when I refelt. by the way I seen a theard about replacing the valley rails with an after market set can't remember the name though,if anyone knows what I'm talking about is their a website I can checkout.

 

[Roadking]

I've got gorina on my bar box & it's been on about 10 years. The table still rolls nice. Theirs a hole wearing where the head ball in the rack sits. And where we break from theirs alot of wear but it doesn't affect any shots. I will replace it with gorina again. Just trying to get my money's worth. Ha Ha No moneys tight rite now & I want to install new rails when I refelt. by the way I seen a theard about replacing the valley rails with an after market set can't remember the name though,if anyone knows what I'm talking about is their a website I can checkout.

Found it ridgebackrails.com Duh

 

[DogsPlayingPool]

I didn't cast a vote because I don't have any experience playing on Gorina that I know of. Our weekly league plays on 9' Olhausens with the slower nappy cloth in green but I don't know for sure it is Gorina. My table has 860HR in T Blue and I prefer it over the growing grass stuff.

In regard to getting the same cloth as the kind you normally compete on outside the home, I used to agree with this but now that I'm thinking about it, I'm not so sure. When I got my table I was not in a league, but when I re-cover, it will be with Simonis again. My thinking is that I play regularly (weekly) on the napped cloth in league - so I am used to those tables. A few racks before the league starts and I've got the speed down and can make the adjustment to the different color as well. It really doesn't take very long because I already have a memory bank on how the league tables play. So since I prefer the play of Simonis, why would I compromise on how my home table plays? Similarly, just because I play 8 Ball in league doesn't mean I should only play 8 Ball at home. Fact is, I rarely play 8 Ball outside of league.

Every once in a while I will compete in tournaments, at Hard Times for example. In cases like these I am unfamiliar with the equipment but there again, these events are usually played on Simonis.

Just my thoughts. I can understand that if your entire focus is your league play then perhaps you would want to duplicate those playing conditions on your home table.

 

[Dartman]

I have nappy stuff on my 8ft here at home, and I dont really enjoy playing on it. I love simonis and would like to replace my felt on my table with it but just cant afford it. Does a company make a comparable product to Simonis 860 Tournament Blue? That is alot cheaper than $214.00?

There are other good quality worsted cloths to be had for less than $214 but you'll have trouble duplicating Tournament Blue. The Electric Blue color is next closest. Some cloth prices have already gone up and Simonis goes up in February. Raw wool prices have gone up over 30% in the past year so it was just a matter of time and contract completions before billiard cloth prices went up.

 

[Roadking]

I play on simonis all the time. Simonis 860 & Gorina play with the same speed. But it's my believe that Gorina last longer & is cheaper. Gorina isn't a fuzzy carpet at all.