Simonis alternative
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Seyberts has simonis 860. I have not heard of a decrease in quality
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
I think they had a little fuzz problem on some batches but the new stuff I got on amazon was/is great. I'd try to go through a high volume merchant to be safe. I think it's back to great stuff and available again.
Simonis 860
I played in a room in Florida covered with Predator cloth. I was playing on it a good hour before I even saw the label under the cushion. I thought it was Simonis the whole time. I'd recommend it.
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Interesting. Is it comparable to 860 or HR? I ask because most local tables here are HR and I want my home table to play just as fast. I am willing to try since the cost difference is significant.
Thanks in advance.
My Championship Tour Edition is several months old and it's starting to show some slight wear down my break path. The wear is very slight and I admit I play several hours a day and I usually break from the same spot for both 8 ball and 9 ball. However, my previous cloth, Simonis 860, which I have used for years, has always shown more wear at an earlier stage. Time will tell but so far I'm happy with the way the Championship plays. Moat times I can't tell the difference between the two.
Andy Cloth outta WY.... good product and owners.
Room here could NOT get 860 this past yr and he kept putting it off but knew he couldn't.
He tried this Andy cloth.
He's very pleased, as are the players.
In the annual Saratoga tourney coming up soon many pros show up and play in this annual event.
Rodney Morris, Corey, Archer, Massey and a few others. Small town along the Platte river.
New heard a cloth complaint.
bm
Room here could NOT get 860 this past yr and he kept putting it off but knew he couldn't.
He tried this Andy cloth.
He's very pleased, as are the players.
In the annual Saratoga tourney coming up soon many pros show up and play in this annual event.
Rodney Morris, Corey, Archer, Massey and a few others. Small town along the Platte river.
New heard a cloth complaint.
bm
I had no trouble getting 860 HR put on back in the summer. It's still the great product it always was with zero complaints on my end. I did hear about a bad batch on here, but I have no experience with that. I'd view switching to some other cloth as a needless risk. Only my opinion of course, and I'm sure that the others experiences with other cloths are valid.
I play mostly on regular 860, and this felt the same to me. I don't have a good gage for 860HR.
Flakeandrun
Well-known member
ANDY and CPBA both make decent cloth
ANDY USA in WY is closed afaik. No activity on their FB page for 3yrs, web is down and they never answer. Eastern & Seybert's are both USA dist afaik. https://easternbilliards.com/andy-cloth.html
Zar, no they Are up and running. They hold the Saratoga WY event every year, good men, and their annual event it next mth.
bm
bm
This has been my experience as well, another vote for Champ 30/30. I had the Steel Grey put on last September and it shows wear much less than the 860HR. It even wears better than the Champ Blue which preceded it. Not sure why, but best wearing cloth for me. And, I like the slightly faster speed. Also costs about $100 less than Simonis.
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HelpMeScrubs0013
Active member
860HR is waste of money to damn slow an thick of cloth.
WTF?? Its not slow at all. If so you had it installed wrong. HR is faster than 860 and slower than 760. If installed right its plenty fast. Great cloth.