John, if you don't want to sell Simonis cloth anymore, that's YOUR choice buddy! I'm going to try and explain this min/max one more time....OK? Are you listening? The min/max stretch is both the same, it's determined by the person installing the cloth...and it don't even matter if it's Simonis cloth or not...that number of inches per stretch is not going to be the same from one person to the next, yes there are going to be those that can install cloth tighter than others, but that doesn't mean that a person that can't stretch the cloth as tight as someone else can...an inadequate mechanic, it just means they don't have the same arm strength! Now, does that mean the cloth that person installs is going to be loose?...NO, it's just not as tight as someone else's, that's all. There is many degrees of tight buddy, that is what my teaching does....it shows a person how to determine how tight they can install cloth based on their own strengths, and consistently reproduce that same installation from table to table, so that that person is consistently doing the same work on every table they work on, doesn't matter what size of table it is!
Do you understand what I'm saying John? When I ask you how to stretch a new cloth you've never used before, your answer would simply be tight, well...that's not good enough for me, because as I've already said...you can't just simply teach "tight"! If a person is recovering say 10 tables in a pool room, all with the same cloth, my way teaches the mechanic how to make sure that the last table done is just as tight as the first table, and that tired is not going to be making the mechanic that the last table is just as tight...when in fact it's not, because of fatigue!
Glen
That's logical.
People who work more/harder are pretty much going to have more strength than say someone that runs with 4-5 guys doing the same jobs.
If you had a crew of guys say 4,that were all working on different tables at the same time, you would have 4 different playing tables,and cloth stretched differently due to the personal ability/preferences of each.If one of them is more rested, slightly stronger, and tries more, then he would have a tighter stretch than say,the guy that hasn't slept, eaten, and is less motivated to be there.
Same story around the country.
The guys that like what they do, and are good at it,will out perform those that are not.
Without having a guide,if you will, to reach as their goal on the stretch, then they will have to vary table to table due to how they feel at that moment.
Trust me,it's not hard to hit the mark,it's hard finding that mark that is determine by
your proven ability.
IF I have a stretch index of 2 7/8" with Simonis, Glen has an index of 3", and the guy down the street can only find a way to get 2",then someone needs to get a new j-o-b.
The more you pull felt,the more your stetch index will eventually be, as long as you do it right and don't mind some of the pain that eventually goes away.
Then you can have some consistency in your work that leaves no room for variation, and everyone already knows how every table you do will play under the same conditions.
I've done the stretch by feel way for years,we all have,but until you have a mark to achieve, that is right on the edge of what you are capable of pulling, you don't realize how hard it can be to hit your target at the end of the day.
And until you have done that,you can't have a way to determine the consistency of your pulls.
When you see that line running down the edge of a table in a straight line,you know you've done it right, and that everywhere on the table has the same consistency in it's stretch.
I like that.
I kinda go out of my way some to push Glen's buttons sometimes,but if it's a better way, that allows me to have a system to ensure that every table I do is going to have that same degree of attention, I can't deny what the end results are.
Until there's a large majority of people doing it, then the general public is not going to be aware of the difference,and nothing will change.
And in
this case, I'm all for change.
If there is going to be a standard for the industry, there are very few things that need to change to make a standard.
Glue,stretch, level, pride, ability (read certification) are only part of it.
I've been in Unions for other industries.
I hate Union.
But, there is a good side to Unions....They are here in order to protect our interests,and those of our customers in this case by establishing actual ability.
It's hard for me to admit that I need to change a few things to hit the top standard that is being established.
I set standards too high for myself as it is, and will continue to, but if it means changing a couple of simple little habits to change the whole overall big picture.....
I'm open minded enough to do it.
