You forgot wall of approved cues. First come first served...10 foot table, 15 ball rotation, banks only, one handed, no bridges allowed, cue ball scratch only fouls. welcome to Hell.
You forgot wall of approved cues. First come first served...10 foot table, 15 ball rotation, banks only, one handed, no bridges allowed, cue ball scratch only fouls. welcome to Hell.
My sense of things is that they view the Bigfoot as being a core event with a small field. It's the only event with an announcer on the mike for the length of every match. It has something I've never heard before in my many years around the game, and that's sponsorship announcements on the mike mid-match. Between racks is a most unusual time for sponsorship announcements.Would it break anyone's heart if they did away with the Big Foot?
My recollction is that Greg started it to popularize 10' tables. I don't think that went too well.
Lou Figueroa
Disagree. SVB lost to a player whose Fargo was 50 points lower and Shaw lost to a player whose Fargo was 35 points lower. Double hill or not, these are very big upsets.Hard to blame the Derby for Filler and Alex drawing each other. SVB and Shaw both lost on the hill.
I am not saying the Derby hangover was not relevant to their play I just wouldn't blame their complete performance on it.
Cheers,
i'd rather have a root-canal with a butter knife than watch that shit.Not 14.1 unless it's on a Chinese table. Full rack rotation on the 10 footer. No dumb points, last ball on the table is the only object per rack. Real pool, evolving strategy, shorten the sets.
Gotta be more interesting than the Banks Kennel Club Masters.i'd rather have a root-canal with a butter knife than watch that shit.
Abuse? That’s richI feel that the logical postscript to these incidents is to consider how those who pulled the all nighter on the Derby’s final day fared at the World Championships.
Four of the Fargo Top 20 pulled the Derby City all-nighter and they all had a disappointing result.
SVB , defending World Champion, bowed out in the round of 16.
Josf Filler, former Worl Champion, was eliminated in the Round of 64.
Jayson Shaw, defending International Open Champion, lost in the Round of 32.
Alex Pagulayan, former World Champion, bowed out in the Round of 32.
None of this is surprising, given the abuse the suffered at the Derby.
I agree both upsets based on Fargo for sure. I just give more credit to the 2 players playing very well and above their current Fargo which I believed happened here. I didn't see the SVB match but read all the praise after the match and it wasn't for SVB, so I could be off, way off actually.Disagree. SVB lost to a player whose Fargo was 50 points lower and Shaw lost to a player whose Fargo was 35 points lower. Double hill or not, these are very big upsets.
Yes, Filler drawing Pagulayan over and over was unusual.
Agreed, perhaps an overstatement, but I've never been asked to work a 25 hour day in my life like Shane, who played pool at the Derby from 9:00 AM to 10:00 AM. It seems like abuse.Abuse? That’s rich
At 50 apart the weaker player has only a 20% chance to win in a race to 11. Not hopeless, but a huge underdog.Disagree. SVB lost to a player whose Fargo was 50 points lower and Shaw lost to a player whose Fargo was 35 points lower. Double hill or not, these are very big upsets. ...
I agree both upsets based on Fargo for sure. I just give more credit to the 2 players playing very well and above their current Fargo which I believed happened here. I didn't see the SVB match but read all the praise after the match and it wasn't for SVB, so I could be off, way off actually.
Cheers,
Yeah if you got insomnia. No one would sit and watch rotation much less 'til the last ball' version. Think we can file this in the 'ain't happening,ever' folder.Gotta be more interesting than the Banks Kennel Club Masters.
There is a back way around the train crossing!In New Albany 13 minutes/9 miles from the Horseshoe by the entrance to the bridge to Louisville. That's the bridge approach in the background.
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But that's going to be more or less an hour wasted if you go there for a meal as opposed to "dining" in the Casino. 13 minutes assumes you don't run into a coal train.
It's the Derby -- smaller pockets on all tables obviously was a problem. Smaller pockets on the TV table was NOT a problem, and probably made those featured matches more interesting -- and more salable for Pat. I would to guess without asking them, that both Greg Sullivan and Pat Fleming, as well as the majority of Accustats subscribers, and spectators there, liked it that way. Now, did they like that matches went deep into the night/next morning? Not so much. But everyone that matters seems to agree that the smaller pockets throughout the tournament floor, was indeed a problem (along with other issues such as efficiency of table scheduling). I'm not hearing anyone say that the TV table was too tight -- except maybe you indirectly.In what other sport do they change the specs like that?
Smaller holes for the final round of golf? Smaller hoops, nets, goal posts? Maybe change the lines for center court at Wimbledon?
Lou Figueroa
Too bad. It's a good game and besides 9 and 10 ball usually go to the last ball.Yeah if you got insomnia. No one would sit and watch rotation much less 'til the last ball' version. Think we can file this in the 'ain't happening,ever' folder.![]()
If he felt it wasn't worth it, Shane could have forfeited out of the tournament like he did at Turning Stone.Agreed, perhaps an overstatement, but I've never been asked to work a 25 hour day in my life like Shane, who played pool at the Derby from 9:00 AM to 10:00 AM. It seems like abuse.
It's the Derby -- smaller pockets on all tables obviously was a problem. Smaller pockets on the TV table was NOT a problem, and probably made those featured matches more interesting -- and more salable for Pat. I would to guess without asking them, that both Greg Sullivan and Pat Fleming, as well as the majority of Accustats subscribers, and spectators there, liked it that way. Now, did they like that matches went deep into the night/next morning? Not so much. But everyone that matters seems to agree that the smaller pockets throughout the tournament floor, was indeed a problem (along with other issues such as efficiency of table scheduling). I'm not hearing anyone say that the TV table was too tight -- except maybe you indirectly.
in golf they change the types of grass, the length and width of fairways, greens speed, pin locations. they are always adjusting the speed of the greens by grass length, through watering or mowingYou didn’t answer my question:
lfigueroa said:
In what other sport do they change the specs like that?
Smaller holes for the final round of golf? Smaller hoops, nets, goal posts? Maybe change the lines for center court at Wimbledon?
Lou Figueroa
in golf they change the types of grass, the length and width of fairways, greens speed, pin locations. they are always adjusting the speed of the greens by grass length, through watering or mowing
I can only speak for this pool fan, but I am not particularly interested in 10 foot tables one way or another. There are none that I know of within 100 miles of me or anyone I know, so I really could care less. No pool room is gonna devote space to larger tables either...total non starter. Less tables per square foot, no way that sounds profitable. In the end, I'm only interested in a similar playing surface to what is commonly available to 99.9% of people who play pool. I bet I'm not alone in that sentiment.Would it break anyone's heart if they did away with the Big Foot?
My recollction is that Greg started it to popularize 10' tables. I don't think that went too well.
Lou Figueroa
Most sports have clearly defined specs -- pool not so much. I just looked at WPA and it says 4-1/2" to 4-5/8" corner pockets under their :You didn’t answer my question:
lfigueroa said:
In what other sport do they change the specs like that?
Smaller holes for the final round of golf? Smaller hoops, nets, goal posts? Maybe change the lines for center court at Wimbledon?
Lou Figueroa