SJM at the 2025 Derby City Classic

Thanks for that. I would not have expected the stream quality to be comparable to Accu-stats, but glad to hear it was watchable, but I see the streaming of every match to be a big step forward.

You're welcome, thanks for all of your recaps I always enjoy them. WPBA also did a few matches with their commentator towards the end of the 9ball with Pia and maybe Kristina too.
 
Digitalpool made great strides at showing something in lieu of brackets, but the information was often inaccurate, laggy, or would just freeze up. For example it would show players had no buybacks when they did. Nonetheless, my hat is off to them for figuring out something, it can't be easy with 4 tournaments going on, 3 of them with 400-500 players, and the buyback system.
Ditto. Even attendees like me were glued to Digital Pool for live scores and results. Digital Pool took some big steps forward this year, but they still have quite a few kinks to work out. Looks like things are moving in a very positive direction.
 
To this day... The game with Efren's crazy 3-cushion style position off a back cut ball against Jason Miller in the DCC One Pocket finals holds that title for me. I've played a bit of 3 Cushion, even had a run of 5 against some unsuspecting Korean billiard hall owner (who spotted me 5 points to 15, site unseen!!!), and the shot he shot was not even within the realm of possibility in my mind.... Efren had Billy Incardona literally falling out of his chair after he pulled it out of the hat...
Now that I've seen video of that shot, I am similarly awed.
 
At the Derby, Fedor played in over 40 matches and I probably saw at least part of half of them. Well, tonight I got to see him play one more time, as he and Earl gave a wonderful exhibition at Amsterdam Billiards, just a five-minute walk from where I live. Earl won the 9ball set and Fedor won the 8ball set. The atmosphere was light and friendly as Earl interacted frequently with the crowd and he was very amusing. He and Fedor played challenge matches with many of those in attendance and both played with friendship and good sportsmanship.

Thanks to all at Amsterdam Billiards for a wonderful evening.
 
Late addition:

This is a little embarrassing, but in the social section of my trip report, I overlooked someone.

A good friend I got to catch up with at Derby City was coach and commentator extraordinaire Alex Lely. Alex did not play in any events, but his former student Pijus Labutis did him proud by winning the Bigfoot 10ball.
 
Cigar Man (if you go to the DCC you'll know who I mean).

Does he post on here? Legend. It's not a DCC until you see him sat in the front row...
 
Cigar Man (if you go to the DCC you'll know who I mean).

Does he post on here? Legend. It's not a DCC until you see him sat in the front row...
I've said hello to "Cigar Man" but I've never met him and don't know his name. He seems like a good guy and, for the record, I've never seen that cigar lit.
 
Late addition:

This is a little embarrassing, but in the social section of my trip report, I overlooked someone.

A good friend I got to catch up with at Derby City was coach and commentator extraordinaire Alex Lely. Alex did not play in any events, but his former student Pijus Labutis did him proud by winning the Bigfoot 10ball.
I am considering going to Rome to get some coaching from Alex Lely. He has a deal of 5 hours a day at a reasonable price, which includes accommodations and food.
 
I've said hello to "Cigar Man" but I've never met him and don't know his name. He seems like a good guy and, for the record, I've never seen that cigar lit.
Perhaps it's a rubber cigar that he just uses for show? Would love to know the story behind it. Next year I'm going to make it my mission to chat to him and find out.

Plus I don't think I've ever seen him smile. That would ruin the image.

He's always there. Definitely a stalwart of the DCC.
 
I am considering going to Rome to get some coaching from Alex Lely. He has a deal of 5 hours a day at a reasonable price, which includes accommodations and food.
Go for it, Russ! Alex is not only a stroke fundamentals guru, but he has well-rounded tactical knowledge as one of just a handful of Europeans that plays all the fringe games regularly.
 
Perhaps it's a rubber cigar that he just uses for show? Would love to know the story behind it. Next year I'm going to make it my mission to chat to him and find out.

Plus I don't think I've ever seen him smile. That would ruin the image.

He's always there. Definitely a stalwart of the DCC.
I've seen it up close and it is a real cigar.
 
Is there anywhere we can see the prize money payout for DCC? That seems to be a well kept secret.
I suspect that this info has already been furnished by Diamond to AZB, but at present, the AZB money list only shows tournament results through the end of 2024, so until it is brought up to the present, that info will remain unavailable on this site. I've not seen the payouts yet, either.

As for the major payouts, Gorst walked away with about 60K (16K for banks, 16K for one pocket, 20K from Master of the Table, and the rest from his third-place finish at 9ball). Filler walked away with about 30K (16K for 9ball, 8K for runner-up in the Bigfoot, 2K for Master of the Table 3rd place, and the rest from banks and one pocket).
 
I suspect that this info has already been furnished by Diamond to AZB, but at present, the AZB money list only shows tournament results through the end of 2024, so until it is brought up to the present, that info will remain unavailable on this site. I've not seen the payouts yet, either.

As for the major payouts, Gorst walked away with about 60K (16K for banks, 16K for one pocket, 20K from Master of the Table, and the rest from his third-place finish at 9ball). Filler walked away with about 30K (16K for 9ball, 8K for runner-up in the Bigfoot, 2K for Master of the Table 3rd place, and the rest from banks and one pocket).
You don't think that it might be because as the fields keep growing larger the payouts are not getting any bigger, or even shrinking perhaps? The buyback idea was one of the great moneymakers any promoter ever thought of. It's hard to account for all that money.

They used to list all the payouts in each division on their website. No more.
 
You don't think that it might be because as the fields keep growing larger the payouts are not getting any bigger, or even shrinking perhaps? The buyback idea was one of the great moneymakers any promoter ever thought of. It's hard to account for all that money.

They used to list all the payouts in each division on their website. No more.
No, I don't think it is that, Jay, because it's common knowledge that DCC payouts haven't kept up with the times. A year ago, the payout details were available through AZB within a few days of the completion of the Derby.

Digital Pool shows the following:

Bank Pool: $96,250 prize money of which $25,000 is added. There were about 480 players (I do not know the exact number). Each paid $160 to enter and let's say half of them bought back for $100, which is typical. That means that the 480 players put up $100,800 (480x160+240x 100) in total.

One pocket: $85,000 prize money of which $25,000 is added. There were about 450 players (I do not know the exact number). Each paid $160 to enter and let's say half of them bought back for $100, which is typical. That means that the 450 players put up $94,500 (450x160+225x 100) in total.

9ball: $100,000 prize money of which $25,000 is added. There were 500 players. Each paid $160 to enter and let's say half of them bought back for $100, which is typical. That means that the 500 players put up $105,000 (500x160+250x 100) in total.

10ball: $32,000 prize money of which the 16 players put up $1,000 each for $16,000. Sounds like $16,000 added.

Master of Table: $25,000 prizes paid

All events combined (this is just a best guess):

Total prizes paid = 96,250+85,000+100,000+32,000+25,000 =338,250
Total entry fees = 100,800+94,500+105,000+16,000 = 316,300

As noted, these are estimates and they may be wrong, but the prize money paid does not look outrageous. Still, I would agree that the payouts have not kept up with the times.
 
Back
Top