Sky confirmed for Team USA Mosconi Cup

I like this kid. It's a step in the right direction, introducing some new blood to the fray, just like when Billy Thorpe was added a couple of years back. I'm not sure why Billy's game has gone a little stale in the last year, but maybe the MC will bring out the best in him.

I find this choice to be very surprising as Tyler's 2018 playing resume doesn't shine, but I agree that it's a step in the right direction. The infusion of youth will definitely set the stage for building the pedigree of future Team USA members.

Nineteen year old Chris Robinson (who reached round 9 in the 2018 Derby City 9-ball including a win over Bergman), similarly, would have been a nice choice.

Gutsy, but definitely commendable, move by Johan here. Best of luck to Tyler.
 
Tyler fargo rating is 730. I wish him the best of luck.

But can't believe he was picked over Shane Mcminn FR 755 or Corey Deuel FR 780

Also Mitch Ellerman FR 745
 
There's still one to go, right? Also, i've heard that even after JR makes his picks Matchroom has final say of who's on the team. Supposed to have something to do with "tv appearance". Is there any validity to this?
 
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I find this choice to be very surprising as Tyler's 2018 playing resume doesn't shine, but I agree that it's a step in the right direction. The infusion of youth will definitely set the stage for building the pedigree of future Team USA members.

Nineteen year old Chris Robinson (who reached round 9 in the 2018 Derby City 9-ball including a win over Bergman), similarly, would have been a nice choice.

Gutsy, but definitely commendable, move by Johan here. Best of luck to Tyler.

Since it looks like there is no chance for Justin Bergman to be on the team this year, I'd like to see one more new guy get named to the team. Maybe Shane McMinn or Mitch Ellerman. Both are very good veteran players who know how to keep their cool under fire. I'm beginning to see what Johann is trying to accomplish here, bringing new players into the fray and creating a new sense of TEAM! Maybe it will produce results over time. I wouldn't expect too much this year, but miracles do happen!
 
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I'm beginning to see what Johann is trying to accomplish here, bringing new players into the fray and creating a new sense of TEAM! Maybe it will produce results over time. I wouldn't expect too much this year, but miracles do happen!

I think that is exactly the other thing he is trying to do, have guys that want to be part of a cohesive and supportive team, that have pride, that still have a strong burning desire to represent and win, who are still young enough to be impressionable, and not too set in their ways that they can't be further molded.
 
STYER SET FOR partypoker MOSCONI CUP DEBUT

Congratulations to Tyler Styer, the latest addition to Mosconi Cup Team USA! He joins Shane VanBoening, Sky Woodward and Billy Thorpe on Coach Ruijsink's squad with the final player to be announced tomorrow
 

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Since it looks like there is no chance for Justin Bergman to be on the team this year, I'd like to see one more new guy get named to the team. Maybe Shane McMinn or Mitch Ellerman. Both are very good veteran players who know how to keep their cool under fire. I'm beginning to see what Johann is trying to accomplish here, bringing new players into the fray and creating a new sense of TEAM! Maybe it will produce results over time. I wouldn't expect too much this year, but miracles do happen!

I think we need to take it on faith that Johan sees something in Tyler that the rest of us don't. Makes sense, too, because Johan has had a closer look at him than any of us. I'll give Johan the benefit of the doubt here and assume that Tyler is ready to meet the great challenge that is the Mosconi Cup and can be a solid contributor.
 
Since it looks like there is no chance for Justin Bergman to be on the team this year, I'd like to see one more new guy get named to the team. Maybe Shane McMinn or Mitch Ellerman. Both are very good veteran players who know how to keep their cool under fire. I'm beginning to see what Johann is trying to accomplish here, bringing new players into the fray and creating a new sense of TEAM! Maybe it will produce results over time. I wouldn't expect too much this year, but miracles do happen!

Yes, Bergman's absence, which is totally understandable, will hurt. Justin may have the best "after the break" skills of any American player. His break has always held him back, but grinding often wins at the Mosconi.

That said, though, at least Billy Thorpe, one of America's top few tacticians, is on the team. Billy, after a poor day one showing in the 2017 Mosconi, found his form for the remainder of the event and showed top notch tactical skills.
 
O.k., since Matchroom picks the coach, I guess they are on board for Johan's "long-term" approach? Otherwise, if Matchroom treats Johan like they treated Mark Wilson, I doubt Johan and the U.S. will have the time to realize any potential benefit from this plan. Not that Mark Wilson was treated totally unfairly, but he was only the coach for 2 or 3 years, and given that he was shortly shown the door, it doesn't seem as if (until now...maybe) that Matchroom was interested in the long term.

Also, count me as a skeptic that this plan will succeed. I hope I am wrong.

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Deuel is still in consideration last I heard unless something changed. He took Hatch's spot when Hatch dropped out.

Here is an alternative way of looking at it, the way I think Johan is looking at it, that I don't think has occurred to most people and it is worth at least giving some consideration to it (and then we can decided if we agree or disagree with the strategy after at least considering it). Johan isn't just looking to pick the five best players, at least for the moment. That strategy hasn't worked for years and if we keep with that strategy the U.S. may never win again so he is trying to come up with a new strategy so that we may actually have a realistic chance to win again, even if it lowers our chances a bit in the first couple of years.

Our five best aren't good enough to win (unless it is a rare fluke) and haven't been for years and it isn't looking like they will be capable any time soon either. Since picking our five best is never going to make us equals to the European team, logic says to ask yourself if there is any other strategy that might work better. The answer is that there is only one thing. We have to get better. We have to improve our level of play. It is the only option when our five best just don't have a realistic chance.

So now the question becomes, as the coach of the team, how do you get the players to get better. Well there is really only three ways. One, you have to be active and playing a lot of events. Two, you have to be putting in a personal effort to improve. Three, you have a good chance of seeing improvement through good coaching.

Essentially Johan has required all three of these things through his policies in order to be able to make the team. Not because he wants to exclude any of our best players, but because he knows that improving is the only way we will ever have a chance, and so he has no choice but to set policies that force us to have to improve, or at least be trying.

Does this hurt us in the short term? Yeah, a little bit, but that is more the fault of the player/s that aren't willing to go along with the program, even when it is clearly in their best financial and playing interest to do so. Will Johan's plan end up working out in the long run? It remains to be seen, but there are some early indications that he may be having some effect on upping the level of play from several of our players, and several of them have given him credit. What we pretty much know for sure though is that picking our top five hadn't been working and wasn't likely to start working any time soon. IMO it isn't an awful idea to try something new when what you have been doing hasn't been working and doesn't look like it will start working any time soon, and there is definitely a lot of logic to his strategy of trying to actually raise our level of play. And really, even with this new strategy we could still be sending our very best five if they would just go along with it, and even though it is in their best interest in every way to go along with it a few have chosen not to which is really more their fault (and also their right) than Johan's fault.
 
Deuel is still in consideration last I heard unless something changed. He took Hatch's spot when Hatch dropped out.

There was never any announcement of that. He traveled with the US team to Russia and participated in the "Dream Challenge" there after he was eliminated, but I think that was because he had already scheduled to go there. Unless there was an unannounced decision to reverse Johann's elimination of Corey, he is out of the running.
 
Tyler fargo rating is 730. I wish him the best of luck.

But can't believe he was picked over Shane Mcminn FR 755 or Corey Deuel FR 780

Also Mitch Ellerman FR 745


I'll say it -- this is absolutely crazy! This shows how bad of shape US pool is when a player that is for all intents and purposes STILL an amateur gets selected for the team. I don't have anything against Tyler but he doesn't have even a single remarkable professional finish.

This really boggles the mind AND it totally confirms that Justin Bergman made the right decision when he chose not to chase after a place on this team. Being on this team should be a reward for a great season, NOT a training ground for an up and coming young player.
 
I think we need to take it on faith that Johan sees something in Tyler that the rest of us don't. Makes sense, too, because Johan has had a closer look at him than any of us. I'll give Johan the benefit of the doubt here and assume that Tyler is ready to meet the great challenge that is the Mosconi Cup and can be a solid contributor.

It might not be what he see's but rather what he doesn't see instead , bad habits bad behavior and so on ,,
I wanted the team to go young from the time a coach was inserted by match room , it's clear that Sky has improved and he gave credit Johan , I would not be surprised if Johan in his meeting with Shane outlined this plan and that's what reeled him back in ,Shane's work ethic is second to none with Johan setting the table for the players to learn from him with what he has to share of his own , I'm seeing this as a great move in the right direction ,,

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I'll say it -- this is absolutely crazy! This shows how bad of shape US pool is when a player that is for all intents and purposes STILL an amateur gets selected for the team. I don't have anything against Tyler but he doesn't have even a single remarkable professional finish.

This really boggles the mind AND it totally confirms that Justin Bergman made the right decision when he chose not to chase after a place on this team. Being on this team should be a reward for a great season, NOT a training ground for an up and coming young player.

The fact is unless you haven't been paying attention our pro's as you see them simply have been dusted and as far as I can tell I can't see that not being the case no matter who you put out , and sorry the old way simply has got zero win's so you either go with hasn't worked or you go another direction,

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It might not be what he see's but rather what he doesn't see instead , bad habits bad behavior and so on ,,
I wanted the team to go young from the time a coach was inserted by match room , it's clear that Sky has improved and he gave credit Johan , I would not be surprised if Johan in his meeting with Shane outlined this plan and that's what reeled him back in ,Shane's work ethic is second to none with Johan setting the table for the players to learn from him with what he has to share of his own , I'm seeing this as a great move in the right direction ,,

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If only you knew about all the bad habits our players have had in the past, you would be shocked, as I was. Hopefully Johann has put measures in place to curtail that this year.
 
What is a Tyler Styer?

Lou Figueroa
and how’d he make
our MC team?!

He beat Niels Feijen at the U.S. Open.

Now... I'm not gonna say he is the favorite over someone like Shane McMinn, but I watched his match against Niels, and he very much looked like Sky did a few years ago, like he could be a terror with a little more seasoning.

Johan could look like either a hero or a zero with this one. Niels is not at 100% right now, and I could totally see him pressing a little when playing matches against Tyler.
 
Tyler fargo rating is 730. I wish him the best of luck.

But can't believe he was picked over Shane Mcminn FR 755 or Corey Deuel FR 780

Also Mitch Ellerman FR 745
After this pick (Styer has the 52nd highest Fargo rating of US players with a Fargo rating) it's anybody's guess who the final pick will be. Deuel (5) Dominguez (9) and McMinn (16) are the highest ranked (Fargo rating) players that were part of the US team that recently competed in Russia.
 
After this pick (Styer has the 52nd highest Fargo rating of US players with a Fargo rating) it's anybody's guess who the final pick will be. Deuel (5) Dominguez (9) and McMinn (16) are the highest ranked (Fargo rating) players that were part of the US team that recently competed in Russia.

So, my opinion from watching all three play at the Leende, NL Eurotour stop:

Deuel is by far the favorite to actually get it done at the Mosconi Cup... IF he practices. He looked like he was on autopilot in Leende. Of course, he has a very high speed in autopilot.. Just not as high a speed as if he actually practiced and got his fundamentals 100%. Corey has a bad habit of relying more on his knowledge than his fundamentals. And that's why he doesn't get it done anymore in big rotation events.

Between the other two, I would pick McMinn all day, e'ryday, and twice on Sunday. McMinn looked like a man on a mission, and played better than Oscar. The only problem is.. (And I hate to say it, but it IS a televised event..)

McMinn's weight has gotten out of control. I've seen pictures of him before, and he was always a bit on the husky side, but he's quite a bit beyond husky now. Appearances do count when one is potentially going to be on television, and I have my doubts that Shane McMinn gets the nod at the weight I saw him at in Leende. MAYBE he has a chance if he's been actively losing weight, but.. There it is. I felt it needed to be mentioned in case any McMinn fans are getting their hopes up.
 
So, my opinion from watching all three play at the Leende, NL Eurotour stop:

Deuel is by far the favorite to actually get it done at the Mosconi Cup... IF he practices. He looked like he was on autopilot in Leende. Of course, he has a very high speed in autopilot.. Just not as high a speed as if he actually practiced and got his fundamentals 100%. Corey has a bad habit of relying more on his knowledge than his fundamentals. And that's why he doesn't get it done anymore in big rotation events.

Between the other two, I would pick McMinn all day, e'ryday, and twice on Sunday. McMinn looked like a man on a mission, and played better than Oscar. The only problem is.. (And I hate to say it, but it IS a televised event..)

McMinn's weight has gotten out of control. I've seen pictures of him before, and he was always a bit on the husky side, but he's quite a bit beyond husky now. Appearances do count when one is potentially going to be on television, and I have my doubts that Shane McMinn gets the nod at the weight I saw him at in Leende. MAYBE he has a chance if he's been actively losing weight, but.. There it is. I felt it needed to be mentioned in case any McMinn fans are getting their hopes up.
This is not the first post you've expressed an opinion on Shane's weight and I'm not really sure what your issues are. This should have nothing to do with whether he is choosed to represent the US Mosconi Cup team.
 
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