Snooker Professional turns to Pool
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since bets have a bif tradiiton in england, id guess that the associations have everywhere their "spies". they cannot afford that too many of big money matches are fixed if they dont want a similar scandal like in football(soccer) where the betting sites nearly had a breakdown...
Bookmakers work with WPBSA officials, also a friend of Stephen send the money from those "deals" to Lee's wife bank account.
It took quite a bit of effort to confirm what everybody suspected about match-fixing in sumo wrestling. The wrestlers' downfall was text messages.
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/SPORT/02/03/sumo.japan.fix.hanaregoma/index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/SPORT/02/03/sumo.japan.fix.hanaregoma/index.html
9ball is very similar and a few years ago I was in Asia and watching a match on TV of the Asian tour where 2 players were about to play and was told the final score before the start of the match. The person was correct in his prediction and explained that the players where part of a stable of players sponsored by a group which he was associated with and where basically paid to perform. This was apparently more lucrative for them than the prize money, similar to talented Indian cricket players originating the slums who get caught for match fixing. Also they would have never had the money or opportunity to compete or travel to the events if not for a sponsor so they did what they where told. I don't know how prevalent this is but when you consider the poverty that some of the top players come from it becomes understandable. Believe it or not but this behavior is across all sports the trick is to not get caught and to not have a conscious or more realistically just do what you have got to do to support your family
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Ron Swanson
Banned
I wondered about that. Is it a blanket cuesports ban? Are you able to refuse his entry?
Cheating aside, it'd be interesting to see how he did on GB9.
Ron Swanson
Banned
Stephen Lee to change career to sumo wrestling. Not the worst idea I've heard...
I would think cheating is rampant in pro sport. Maybe not as blatant as match fixing, but it would be relatively easy to collude on scores, spreads and the like.
The former world number five's suspension will end on 12 October, 2024, the date of his 50th birthday. In the meantime, he cannot play in any game sanctioned by the World Professional Billiards and Snooker Association (WPBSA).
On the GB Tour he would most probably be another Peach, Melling , Gary, Appleton or Davis. He has the match mentality and shot making fundamentals so it wouldn't take long to become a world beater, except he wouldn't make near as much of a living as snooker.
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Like another said who wants someone banned for cheating playing on their Tour or even an individual tournament.
All in the industry need to stand together. If one is banned from ANY sanctioning body for cheating, then that banned should be upheld by ALL sanctioning bodies.
The game's image is bad enough in the pubic's eyes, we don't need, 'look he get's banned for cheating there so they let him play there'.
What incentive is there to not cheat, if when you get caught you can just make a change & keep playing?
It is this type of illogic that holds the sport/game back in the public's eye.
JMHO
All in the industry need to stand together. If one is banned from ANY sanctioning body for cheating, then that banned should be upheld by ALL sanctioning bodies.
The game's image is bad enough in the pubic's eyes, we don't need, 'look he get's banned for cheating there so they let him play there'.
What incentive is there to not cheat, if when you get caught you can just make a change & keep playing?
It is this type of illogic that holds the sport/game back in the public's eye.
JMHO
I take it all GB9 players are saints then?
Strange...
Just curious but, 20 what? 50 what?
If it's 20,000 or 50,000 yen... that's nothing. Like 200-500 bucks. Sounds too low.
20 million to 50 million sounds maybe too high... 200,000 - 500,000 bucks.
Do Japanese talk in USD instead of yen?
20 - 50k might be right, since 20kish is what the best earn monthly.
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Ron Swanson
Banned
I don't know but there was a chapter on Sumo fixing in Freakonomics.
Pretty much and they can all walk on water.
We don't need this type of Big Brother oversight. The guy got banned and maintains his innocence. Let him play pool or any other cue sport with a clean slate.
Imagine if your issues in one career followed you into all others? Might as well put a gun to your head.
I can understand people not wanting Stephen Lee in the pool world after what he has been convicted of. I wouldn't want a convicted fraudster becoming my bank account manager, regardless of him maintaining his innocence.
That said, the only way he knows how to make a living is with a cue. Hard to go from a former world number 5 to flippin' burgers at McDonald's. As John said, you might as well put a gun to your head.
Hard to say, but I imagine he has learned from his mistakes and won't let the same happen if he turns to pool regularly. He is still a quality player and in a year or two I can see him competing at the highest level. If he does turn to pool I wish him luck. I have zero respect for him for what he's done, but I'd like to see how he gets on against the big boys on the big boys stage in pool.
That said, the only way he knows how to make a living is with a cue. Hard to go from a former world number 5 to flippin' burgers at McDonald's. As John said, you might as well put a gun to your head.
Hard to say, but I imagine he has learned from his mistakes and won't let the same happen if he turns to pool regularly. He is still a quality player and in a year or two I can see him competing at the highest level. If he does turn to pool I wish him luck. I have zero respect for him for what he's done, but I'd like to see how he gets on against the big boys on the big boys stage in pool.