So is there footage of the famous 1990's Challenge of Champions dumping scandal?

The people bidding aren't the problem
People like the players that pulled the scam are the problem
What's done is done, it's to late to cover it up now

The way I look at it is live by the sword and die by the sword. This tarnishes my image of a few of the players but not so much that I am ready to condemn them for all time.

Sorry but all of these guys came from a world of gambling, on pool, cards, horses, etc...a lot of the money in the pool room came from criminals who had plenty of money to spend on backing players.

In their minds they probably didn't think that they were doing much wrong, just business as usual. Furthermore they probably all thought that only a few of them would get unlucky enough to pull the short straw and have to dump to Mike since only three people had to play him.

But at the end of the day if you are going to do this on a nationally televised program when you know that it will live forever then you have to live with it when it does live forever. Personally I'd like to see the guys involved just admit it and talk about it and move past it.

I just wonder if any of them were scared of the consequences. I mean we all know the stories and rumors of mob involvement in Vegas casinos. Was it all corporate by the 90s with the mob gone? No fear at all of violent reaction? I know Jay said that the sports book only ended up 40k loser on it but still, in the movies people get whacked for far less.

As for sweeping it under the rug. I do agree that if it's out there then it's part of the history of our sport. We have to face the ugly parts as well. For all we know all these guys went on to give back to the sport in ways that maybe they would not have if they didn't carry this with them.
 
When I win this auction it's immediately going on youtube

:) Really really REALLY hope you win...

Thread summary for late arrivals:

" does anyone have this video?"

"I've got it!"

"can you upload it?"

"lol no, Nyah Nyah Nyah u don't have it!"

"whatever...if you won't upload it just stfu and go away"

"lol I've got it and u don't hurrrrr"

*17 more pages of trolling and thread sh*tting and not just shutting the f
up and going away*


Threads are amazing here sometimes.

Yeah, really hope that EVERYONE in this thread gives piles of negative rep points to SS. :mad:
 
:) Really really REALLY hope you win...



Yeah, really hope that EVERYONE in this thread gives piles of negative rep points to SS. :mad:

GASP!!! No....not the...the....NEGATIVE REPS!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah. I'm absolutely devastated at the thought of some negative rep coming my way.
HAHAHAHA!!!!!

But please.
Whatever you do, keep right on whining and crying.
Do you own stock in Kleenex?:D
 
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You guys are nuts giving SS bad rep. Why not give Scott Lee bad rep for not uploading it? I mean come on, that's ludicrous. There are tons of DVD bootleggers selling this DVD for $5 if you all want it so bad. And no, don't pm me for a source.
 
A story by a person that was not there does not make a fixed result. Ask someone that was there. The VHS tape or cd will show some people playing pool on television nothing more. Did they match up latter?
 
A story by a person that was not there does not make a fixed result. Ask someone that was there. The VHS tape or cd will show some people playing pool on television nothing more. Did they match up latter?

Um. WOW!

Unreal.
 
This has been well known about for as long as I can remember, I wonder why a big deal is being made about it now?

This has been a recurring topic since AZ Forums started, just like best tip, shaft, etc. Every year or so a new thread is made on it. Probably before AZ, it was a recurring topic on the other internet forums, such as Billiards Digest, and the rec.sports.billiards newsgroups. This thread is just the latest incarnation.
 
Because Scott Lee isn't actively trolling forum users like some sort of 14 year-old trying to compensate for being bullied at school by being a d1ck on the internet.

Well put, I said before .. It has nothing to do with SS not posting it
It's the endless trolling.thats exactly how SS came off to me.
Spot on
 
Thanks Jay. Interesting that each bet was maxed at $200. I am not sure if they do that with other sports book bets. I wonder if they maxed it because they foresaw the possibility of too much $ influencing play.

I think just about any pool trivia 91' Challenge Of Champions or whatever, if you need the facts<<<<<Just ask Jay Helfert:-)
 
But please.
Whatever you do, keep right on whining and crying.
Do you own stock in Kleenex?:D

Admit it, you are bidding on the DVD's as well just for the joy you could have saying

"LOLZ!!! I won the auction, here is a screeenshot of my ebay page proving it!!! I am not selling them, I am going to record a video of my destroying them and put THAT on Youtube!!! LOL, Suckers!!! I still have all the icecream!"

If you are going to be a douchebag then you should at least go all the way with it, whatever you do in life dont half ass it, try to do it 100%. Do the above and then I could at least respect the effort and focus to the cause.
 
Math behind the chop

So LeBlon gets $50k. And a 1099. I wonder what his tax rate was that year. What's the odds he lied and claimed he needed to take 36% fed and 8% state tax off the top? Very doubtful he provided copies of his '91 return...
 
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