I can't honor those any more....:frown: Eddie put a 'cease and desist' on me, and threatened to send his FBI girl after me.......and Grandma too....:grin::grin::grin:
so much for the custom cue.....
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I can't honor those any more....:frown: Eddie put a 'cease and desist' on me, and threatened to send his FBI girl after me.......and Grandma too....:grin::grin::grin:
A cuemidor :grin-square:
Dave <-- full of good ideas ... and other things too
You and I are going to make these and get rich.
Ready?
I was just commenting on the mentality. Everything has to be lifetime warranty..... Reminds me of past experiences with people that use a $19.99 sportcraft cue that they had to roll 6 of them on the floor to find a straight one. They say he nice cue, what brand is it. Its a custom, and you tell them by who and you already know they have no idea who the maker is. But they insist on asking how much, and i tell them just so i can see the look on their face like they just threw up in their mouth. They cant justify a reason to spend even $300 on a decent custom sneaky. It would have to automatically pocket balls for them. They would rather have the snow globe in the butt with flashing lights..
The transmission warranty is an unfair comparison. You can put a beefed up tranny in an underpowered truck and it will last forever, or pussy foot it. Thats why they warranty to a certain HP. Which is probobly more of a guarantee that it will hold to that HP. Did you happen to notice that the same eagle red claw clutches are used from 300hp to 1200 hp builds. Just the hard parts change. After 700hp behind a diesel, there is no warranty, no guarantee anymore. You gotta pay to play just like everything else in life.
That's great but where's the E-type?And, did it warp?
It didn't warp, but it got broken very, very badly. I sold it to a woman who owned a custom upholstery business. She let her idiot boyfriend drive it. The boyfriend and the E have both been in the ground for about forty years now (I think they had to use a fire hose to rinse him off the wreckage).
In the Blue Books of cues both second and third, it is stated that nearly every cuemaker guarantees their cues indefinitely to the original owner except for warpage or abuse. Not sure you can do a lot better than that. In addition, most of the cuemakers I have purchased from have always done warranty repairs quickly and at low or no cost.
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I never said I was looking for an unconditional warrantee. There are manufacturers here in the US that offer warranty against warpage. Peuchauer is one.
Your welcome! I am not offended by any of this!!
Sounds painful...:frown:
Well, he won't make that mistake again now will he!
I would like to apologize one last time to people I offended with this post. I never meant to "bash" anybody. I was in a bad mood after an email by a cuemaker and I just went on to "rant", and that wasn't right. please accept my most humble apologies.
I was laying in bed not able to sleep cause I was thinking of pool (again) mostly this thread and I had an Idea on the lifetime warranty that I wanted to run by some cuemakers here.
we were talking about the lifetime powertrain warranties on my dodge, and it does come with stipulations, like the maintenance that must be maintained by a dealership. What if a cuemaker did kind of the same thing? You could offer a lifetime guarantee, but once a year you must send the cue in for maintenance. There would be a fee of course, lets say 40 bucks (plus s&h). If you didn't continue to send your cue in for this the warranty would be voided. Now, lets say you build 20 cues in a year and 10 of those people continued to send the cue in. thats $240 a year extra and you could keep track of the cue and how its been treated (should be easy with these nice computers we have now). If 3 years down the road ($720 to date) that 1 person had a shaft problem the cost would be covered already, kind of like insurance does (the sum of all pays for the one).
This is just a thought on my part to maybe start a more positive discussion about this then what has gone on.
and I know my spelling and grammar are not the best. I try to spell check, but "there" instead of "there're" is not a word spell check catches. I'm a fabricator, not an english major. I did great in high school shop, but barely passed english!!!!!
I was laying in bed not able to sleep cause I was thinking of pool (again) mostly this thread and I had an Idea on the lifetime warranty that I wanted to run by some cuemakers here.
we were talking about the lifetime powertrain warranties on my dodge, and it does come with stipulations, like the maintenance that must be maintained by a dealership. What if a cuemaker did kind of the same thing? You could offer a lifetime guarantee, but once a year you must send the cue in for maintenance. There would be a fee of course, lets say 40 bucks (plus s&h). If you didn't continue to send your cue in for this the warranty would be voided. Now, lets say you build 20 cues in a year and 10 of those people continued to send the cue in. thats $240 a year extra and you could keep track of the cue and how its been treated (should be easy with these nice computers we have now). If 3 years down the road ($720 to date) that 1 person had a shaft problem the cost would be covered already, kind of like insurance does (the sum of all pays for the one).
This is just a thought on my part to maybe start a more positive discussion about this then what has gone on.
and I know my spelling and grammar are not the best. I try to spell check, but "there" instead of "there're" is not a word spell check catches. I'm a fabricator, not an english major. I did great in high school shop, but barely passed english!!!!!
I see basic Math wasn't a strong subject for you either.
10 x $40 = $400 (not $240).
Ever notice that when you stick your foot in the 'muck', it's tough to get out because of the suction effect? Sometimes it's best to just leave your boot and limp home. You might want to consider that here as the quicksand ain't all that friendly.
If you've got a problem with a particular CM, you need to take it up with him until you attain satisfaction or an understanding. Ranting/venting at us won't resolve that issue for you.
Apology accepted, now let's move on.
10 x $40 = $400 (not $240).
Ever notice that when you stick your foot in the 'muck', it's tough to get out because of the suction effect? Sometimes it's best to just leave your boot and limp home. You might want to consider that here as the quicksand ain't all that friendly.
If you've got a problem with a particular CM, you need to take it up with him until you attain satisfaction or an understanding. Ranting/venting at us won't resolve that issue for you.
Apology accepted, now let's move on.
As stated above, OB cues has a lifetime warranty on the stuff your concerned about. Royce is great to deal with. Remember you get what you pay for. There are many cuemakers that go out of their way, you'd be suprised. As alot of guys on here will tell you. Once you buy your first custom, your going to be thinking about buying another. Honestly you should look at picking up a used custom around $500 and try different makers cues until you find one you really like. Its easier to swallow reselling a $500 cue with a potential loss, then a $1500 cue that you waited for that someone else might not find as attractive then you have to sit on it. Plus when it gets nicks and stuff in the butt you wont be as upset.
Lets see I bought a cue from Gus Szamboti in 1982 and played with it until 1996 and sold it for $6700.00, I bought a Barry for $2500.00 and Sold it for $3500.00 a yr later, I bought a Schick in 1999 for$2500.00 and sold it a yr later for $3500.00, wish i still had them dont have the woman I sold them for. I know where the Schick is and he wants $4500.00. I bought a Perry Weston with a water buffalo joint it cracked I called Perry and he replaced it, this was 2 yrs after I got it, all i was out was the time without my cue. You buy a $30,000.00 dollar auto you get a 10 year warrenty, you drive it off the lot its worth $25,000.00 but you still have the warrenty you drive it 15 yrs its worth $2000.00. You buy a cue with a life time warrenty for $300.00 dollars its worth $200.00 the day after you buy it , if you can find a buyer. A cue by a reputable makers cue will stand the test of time. Just my thoughts
I have been buying and collecting cues for about 25 + years and when I look back I don't think I have ever asked about a warranty....it never even crossed my mind. I have mostly bought cues from mostly the best cue makers and have always had confidence in their workmanship.
I have cues that are new and 40 + years old and the most amazing thing is that they are unbelievable straight accept for one....it is a cue form 1981 that was left in a car in South Florida with the windows open and got seriously wet....it actually took days to dry out and the handle has warp damage...but it still hits like awesome.
It is still amazes me how much we expect out of our pool cues...reasonable and unreasonable:
Often extreme climate changes .. summer to winter, arid environment to humid, go from a dry 78 to cold snow covered car to warm dry pool hall in the winter, repeatly...hot to cold, dry to wet. And let's be honest how many of you guys leave cues in the trunk of your cars....mucho...and probably 99% of the cues do just fine...that is incredible.
Just the everyday playing wears on a cue and 99% do just fine.
All the burger and fries grease in the wraps and on the shafts...chili dogs.etc. booze, cig smoke, lung refuse from coughing and some naughty woman. And all those guys that don't wash their hands after going to the can.
Cues are made mostly of natural materials are are affected by lots and lots of things and still do amazing well. Says a lot about the quality of cue makers and the amazing job most of them do and the longevity of cues.
I have never had a cue maker not stand behind his product....that's a good enough warranty for me.
When you buy a cue from a reputable cue maker...have no fear..
This is just one intelliignet man's intelligent opinion...in my opinion..
Scott
I have cues that are new and 40 + years old and the most amazing thing is that they are unbelievable straight accept for one....it is a cue form 1981 that was left in a car in South Florida with the windows open and got seriously wet....it actually took days to dry out and the handle has warp damage...but it still hits like awesome.
It is still amazes me how much we expect out of our pool cues...reasonable and unreasonable:
Often extreme climate changes .. summer to winter, arid environment to humid, go from a dry 78 to cold snow covered car to warm dry pool hall in the winter, repeatly...hot to cold, dry to wet. And let's be honest how many of you guys leave cues in the trunk of your cars....mucho...and probably 99% of the cues do just fine...that is incredible.
Just the everyday playing wears on a cue and 99% do just fine.
All the burger and fries grease in the wraps and on the shafts...chili dogs.etc. booze, cig smoke, lung refuse from coughing and some naughty woman. And all those guys that don't wash their hands after going to the can.
Cues are made mostly of natural materials are are affected by lots and lots of things and still do amazing well. Says a lot about the quality of cue makers and the amazing job most of them do and the longevity of cues.
I have never had a cue maker not stand behind his product....that's a good enough warranty for me.
When you buy a cue from a reputable cue maker...have no fear..
This is just one intelliignet man's intelligent opinion...in my opinion..
Scott
Don't ask don't tell?????????
It is your attitude that pisses people off. Is this the position you took when asking cuemakers about a warranty?? Ask ANYONE "so, no matter what I do, u'll fix it?" and you will get a no.
Most cuemakers take personal interest in their work and cannot stand when they see it abused. Pretty easy to imagine what someone might do if they ask the aforementioned question.
It is nice you have that Dodge. Don't forget to:
1. Schedule regular maintenance and keep records
2. Get it inspected within 60 days of it's 5 year anniversary of sale or it is void.
3. Tell anyone you sell it to that the warranty is non transferrable.
I'm sure there is more and CERTAIN the dealer told you about all the small print before you signed.
The bottom line here is that I don't know of any cuemaker that won't fix a problem cue within reason. The ONLY item I know of that you can get replaced NO QUESTIONS ASKED is a Craftsman hand tool and I have broken my share.