So, Tell Me, Why Did Meucci Do This?

Kickin' Chicken

Kickin' Chicken

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There is a question I have about Meucci that I never knew the answer to and so, what better place to see about getting the answer than right here on AZ? :thumbup:

Why did they spray over the linen wraps, leaving their cues feeling wrapless?

Never understood the motivation or rationale for this and so does anyone know the reason why? :confused:

TIA

best,
brian kc
 
Kickin' Chicken said:
There is a question I have about Meucci that I never knew the answer to and so, what better place to see about getting the answer than right here on AZ? :thumbup:

Why did they spray over the linen wraps, leaving their cues feeling wrapless?

Never understood the motivation or rationale for this and so does anyone know the reason why? :confused:

TIA

best,
brian kc
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dont know meucci's reason
but i know mine
i've done it a few times,
when someone likes the look of linen and the feel of wrapless
did it on the abe rich blank
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=271236&highlight=rich+blank
 
It's simple. The sprayed wrap is/was a pure signature of one of the best production factory in the pool world. I said was because these days there are a lot of cheap copies of it.
Bob is a nice guy to talk with and if you ask him he'll tell ya that this is a better way to not have the repair cabinet filled with dirty wraps...I suppose...hehhe

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Brian, I've asked myself that question a hunnert times, and the answer is always the same.
I don't know, Brian. I just don't know. :smile:
 
Another train of thought could be that, you could use a cheaper material to wrap the cue and now deference could be told? otherwise i would say, wrapped look with a wrapless feel makes the next best since. I have seen it on several other custom cues.


best,

Justin
 
We just refinished a new Meucci HP, and an old Meucci original.
The finish on both cues was very poorly done, especially the HP series cue with a coated wrap.
The finish over the wrap was so bad that it didn't feel like a wrapless cue at all.
The finish just peeled off, and the wrap material was some kind of really cheap nylon.
It looked like they are taking a cheap poorly made cue, using cheap nylon for the wrap material to save $$, and then they dip it it stain and finish.
The quality coming out of the Meucci shop now days is worse than cheap imports, and Mr. Meucci should be ashamed of himself for the quality vs. the price.
Bob Meucci may be a nice guy, but it stops there as far as I'm concerned.
Several years ago I bought two brand new HOF series Meucci's, the quality was very poor, ferrules falling off, and they didn't play worth a crap.
It took several attempts just to get straight shafts.
This HP was a new cue, and you should of seen it.
The quality of the wood is poor as well, once you get their cheap stain off to see it.
I was surprised to see that this HP series Meucci sells for $599, which is ridiculous.
The points, finish, wrap, and materials of construction would be unacceptable for a $150 cue, let alone $600.
The cue was not marked "factory second" and I don't know much about those, but I think it was a factory second cubed, which would make it a Meucci factory 8th.

With that glowing review, these Meucci's will be for sale soon, right here on AZ Billiards.
 
Kickin' Chicken said:
There is a question I have about Meucci that I never knew the answer to and so, what better place to see about getting the answer than right here on AZ? :thumbup:

Why did they spray over the linen wraps, leaving their cues feeling wrapless?

Never understood the motivation or rationale for this and so does anyone know the reason why? :confused:

TIA

best,
brian kc
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I had read that it was to preserve the linen look while preventing the wrap from getting dirty. My guess is the idea came about when someone wanted a white wrap, which is impossible to keep clean.

The first I saw of this was during his Huebler days, where he did this to some cues but not others.

Personally I'm glad the idea didn't catch on.
 
TATE said:
I had read that it was to preserve the linen look while preventing the wrap from getting dirty. My guess is the idea came about when someone wanted a white wrap, which is impossible to keep clean.

The first I saw of this was during his Huebler days, where he did this to some cues but not others.

Personally I'm glad the idea didn't catch on.
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You are giving Meucci way too much credit.
They went to the coated wrap to save $$.
 
The linen stays looking new. You can use less expensive wood for the handle as you are covering it up with a wrap and still maintain the wrapless feel. You can sand the wrap flush with the cue and shoot the finish over it. That is easier than getting a perfectly flush non-sealed wrap. We could go on and on.
 
Old story 1996
I got 3 hp meucci cues in and sold them ,they all had a spray over the wrap.

black dot shafts.

The cues fell apart . The wrap section finish cracked , thousands of cracks.
the shafts delaminated and warped. I ended up giving all 3 customers back there money.

To this day I feel like I was ripped off.

I will never sale or suggest another meucci to a customer ......................


MMike
 
Kickin' Chicken said:
There is a question I have about Meucci that I never knew the answer to and so, what better place to see about getting the answer than right here on AZ? :thumbup:

Why did they spray over the linen wraps, leaving their cues feeling wrapless?

Never understood the motivation or rationale for this and so does anyone know the reason why? :confused:

TIA

best,
brian kc
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I used to like that.

Cause it still looks like a "Cue" but feels like a wrapless.

I have cues with segmented and/or full Ivory handles. They are effectively wrapless but still have that traditional custom 2 piece cue appearance.

According to the man himself they do for 2 reasons:

1. So that the total butt has the same unbroken feel and texture when moving your grip hand to different positions.

2. More importantly, we coat the wrap because we think the design and asthetics of a cue are important to you. We are sure that you don't want all cues to have a blue chalk stained wrap after a very short time.

I believe all thier cues are always available with an uncoated wrap at request.

There you have it. ;)
 
RRfireblade said:
I used to like that.

Cause it still looks like a "Cue" but feels like a wrapless.

I have cues with segmented and/or full Ivory handles. They are effectively wrapless but still have that traditional custom 2 piece cue appearance.

According to the man himself they do for 2 reasons:

1. So that the total butt has the same unbroken feel and texture when moving your grip hand to different positions.

2. More importantly, we coat the wrap because we think the design and asthetics of a cue are important to you. We are sure that you don't want all cues to have a blue chalk stained wrap after a very short time.

I believe all thier cues are always available with an uncoated wrap at request.

There you have it. ;)
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Maybe "the man himself" should take a look at the crap he is sending out the door.
I've seen Fierce Eagle cues out of China, that cost $6-$8 to make, have better quality control that the some of the Meucci's I've seen.
I do admire "the man himself" for having the ability to sell crappy cues for a lot of $$.
 
All I know is my first cue was a meucci freshmen sprayed wrap cue i still have it over ten years later and it is still strait. That said I hated the feel of that cue from day one.
 
cuesblues said:
Maybe "the man himself" should take a look at the crap he is sending out the door.
I've seen Fierce Eagle cues out of China, that cost $6-$8 to make, have better quality control that the some of the Meucci's I've seen.
I do admire "the man himself" for having the ability to sell crappy cues for a lot of $$.
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Well if you want to crap on Meucci as a whole , there are like a billion and 1 threads already done on that. Feel free to search them all out, bump them all up and knock yourself out...it's obviously a pretty important issue to you. Sorry about that.

But I think this thread was simple question with a simple answer, and now you have it.

Carry on. :)
 
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I just had my Tad refinished by Fred and they coated the wrap also.
He said they do it to all their cues.
Mine had the old, high quality Irish Linen (I have a roll of the Irish Linen from the 1950's) and they coated it also so in that case it was not the newer cheaper stuff.

NightLife
 
I don't know why everyone gets so upset with Meucci? I think the price point fits the quality of the product. They are production cues.
 
RRfireblade said:
Well if you want to crap on Meucci as a whole , there are like a billion and 1 threads already done on that. Feel free to search them all out, bump them all up and knock yourself out...it's obviously a pretty important issue to you. Sorry about that.

But I think this thread was simple question with a simple answer, and now you have it.

Carry on. :)
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I know, I just disagree with the premise that it is done for any reason, other than to save manufacturing cost in material as well as labor.
Meucci gets a double savings by doing it.

Carry on...:smile:
 
cuesblues said:
I know, I just disagree with the premise that it is done for any reason, other than to save manufacturing cost in material as well as labor.
Meucci gets a double savings by doing it.

Carry on...:smile:
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I can only tell you why Bob said he does it.

They used real linen when they started the process ,thats easily proven and so clearly not a cost saving feature.

And finishing over the wrap is significantly more work than not and uses dramtically more finish material, thats pretty obvious as well to anyone who has ever done it. Hardly a cost saving there either.

But believe what ever you need to if it helps you. ;)
 
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