All too true, both ways.
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All too true, both ways.
Sad part is this guy is asking for feedback about missing right cut shots and not one person provided a suitable reply to help him.
As always, it’s you need to see a instructor.
No one asked about where the balls were position when a right cut was missed. No asked about the angle of the shot. No one asked if the misses were always to the same side.
A instructor can not feel what you feel, can not see what you see. Only you know this.
The key to improving is a properly structured practice program that is suitable for a person skill level. A instructor can not be with you at all of your practices, therefore it is up to you to know why you missed.....no other.
Two reason for misses........you put the CB in the wrong spot to make the OB go where you want, even tho you picked the right spot on the table......or you picked and put the CB on the wrong spot on the table to put the CB to make the OB go where you want.
It that simple.
You can practice learning where that spot on the table is in two ways. One is using the rack spot, the other is Babe Canfields Arrow.
To use the rack spot.......just place a CB on it, then place a OB frozen to it such that it is a dead into the center of a corner pocket, in this case setup for a right cut shot into center corner pocket.
Remove the CB from the rack spot. The rack spot is where the CB needs to roll over to make the OB go center pocket.
Place the CB at different right cut angles. Stand right behind the OB ball, look from center pocket to the spot. While looking at the spot, you can even place your cue tip on the spot, move to where you are right behind the CB looking straight at the rack spot, or you cues center line is over the top of the CB center. Notice that the top of the CB is straight to the rack spot.
Now you have a observable spot to place the CB.....something real to aim at. If you miss center pocket, say to the right, you now know you placed the CB on a spot to the left of the rack spot.
There are times I do this, just do the setup, but for different target pockets, and just look at the rack spot from right behind the CB. This is a way to help devolp using the spot on the table, which is how Babe Cranfield aimed.
His arrow is a training aid that allows to practice the spot on the table from various positions on the table.
Notice, not one one word about contact points, various imagined lines needed for aiming, no edge of ball, which doesn’t exist, no math, no fractional dividing of the OB, you can hit a fraction of a ball anyway......ie.....there is no such thing as a 1/2 ball hit. There is only CB placement on the table.....greatly simplifies shot making.
Notice also you are looking in straight lines......never looking at the OB.....just where the CB needs to be on the table. You can still see the OB because, most times, it’s still in your field of view of your eyes.
You must practice properly in order to improve, this requires removing as much guess work as possible and using the rack spot or Babe Cranfields Arrow in practice does eliminated guessing where the CB needs to be to make the CB go where you want. It takes time to learn this, just as with anything.
I’m still waiting for a pic of a 1/2 ball hit..........a pic that shows balls have edges.
As always, it’s you need to see a instructor.
No one asked about where the balls were position when a right cut was missed. No asked about the angle of the shot. No one asked if the misses were always to the same side.
A instructor can not feel what you feel, can not see what you see. Only you know this.
The key to improving is a properly structured practice program that is suitable for a person skill level. A instructor can not be with you at all of your practices, therefore it is up to you to know why you missed.....no other.
Two reason for misses........you put the CB in the wrong spot to make the OB go where you want, even tho you picked the right spot on the table......or you picked and put the CB on the wrong spot on the table to put the CB to make the OB go where you want.
It that simple.
You can practice learning where that spot on the table is in two ways. One is using the rack spot, the other is Babe Canfields Arrow.
To use the rack spot.......just place a CB on it, then place a OB frozen to it such that it is a dead into the center of a corner pocket, in this case setup for a right cut shot into center corner pocket.
Remove the CB from the rack spot. The rack spot is where the CB needs to roll over to make the OB go center pocket.
Place the CB at different right cut angles. Stand right behind the OB ball, look from center pocket to the spot. While looking at the spot, you can even place your cue tip on the spot, move to where you are right behind the CB looking straight at the rack spot, or you cues center line is over the top of the CB center. Notice that the top of the CB is straight to the rack spot.
Now you have a observable spot to place the CB.....something real to aim at. If you miss center pocket, say to the right, you now know you placed the CB on a spot to the left of the rack spot.
There are times I do this, just do the setup, but for different target pockets, and just look at the rack spot from right behind the CB. This is a way to help devolp using the spot on the table, which is how Babe Cranfield aimed.
His arrow is a training aid that allows to practice the spot on the table from various positions on the table.
Notice, not one one word about contact points, various imagined lines needed for aiming, no edge of ball, which doesn’t exist, no math, no fractional dividing of the OB, you can hit a fraction of a ball anyway......ie.....there is no such thing as a 1/2 ball hit. There is only CB placement on the table.....greatly simplifies shot making.
Notice also you are looking in straight lines......never looking at the OB.....just where the CB needs to be on the table. You can still see the OB because, most times, it’s still in your field of view of your eyes.
You must practice properly in order to improve, this requires removing as much guess work as possible and using the rack spot or Babe Cranfields Arrow in practice does eliminated guessing where the CB needs to be to make the CB go where you want. It takes time to learn this, just as with anything.
I’m still waiting for a pic of a 1/2 ball hit..........a pic that shows balls have edges.
My God, duckie. When are you going to get off this? Of course a sphere doesn't have an edge like a cube does, but so what? It is simply a convenient way to describe the curved line that defines where the left or right surface of the ball ends. EVERYBODY knows what is meant by a half ball hit. It is a very useful tool. Why can't you just accept that? You've been banned for like a year and the first thing you do is come back with the edge stuff...
We're still waiting for you to learn the difference between literal and figurative.
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This is some good info here. The ability to visualize the this spot, along with the "ghost ball" sitting on top of it, is how I mainly aim. I seem to struggle mainly with the longer cut shots. Being able to visualize a spot on the OB helps me with the longer shots, but I find the spot on the OB by first determining the ghost ball spot...
That's because so often when someone posts anything about aiming, a CTE user chimes in with something like, "All you need to know is 15, 30, and 45", then it becomes another CTE flame thread. And sometimes it happens at the mere mention of cte, like I've just done. Lol. Sorry.
This is such bullshit
LMAO. Absolutely no one is getting paid to promote CTE.
No one brings an aiming question or new aiming system on here without mentioning CTE. CTE is the standard that others try to compare themselves too.
He's the lone Japanese soldier on an island still fighting WWII after 40 years have passed.
This thread escalated quickly. It was nice to have a couple sincere responses in the beginning. I am out. Have fun.
You're right. I kept my nose out of the thread but had a moment of weakness. Old habits die hard I guess.
Having said that it is true that there will be far less arguing with Spider, JB and Low500 no longer posting. You even discussed the arguing in your first post. If you post again in the future without any mention of CTE or arguments you might find that you get more comments and less arguing than you think.
Thanks for stopping in the aiming forum. If you stopped by more often you would understand why i post the way i do.
Also the guy who gave the OP some good advice without mentioning CTE once
Life is funny sometimes, use to complain bout ol Wilson as a moderator, now I miss the guy and NPR is the wild west. lol
I will agree with this 100%.
There are way more anti-CTE people on here screwing up the threads than there are pro-CTE people.
I'm not pro- or anti-CTE, but I read the threads and can see who is doing what.
There is a "gang" of anti-CTE people on here who have hounded all the pool forums for years and they have no intention of stopping anytime soon, short of them being banned...which has happened to some of them, over and over.
Joe/Stan - If you weren't so busy deleting all of your previous posts you'd have noticed that Wilson is no longer a moderator. You might also note that I did not say anything about CTE itself, only those who propagandize and misunderstand what it actually is. But, FWIW, I am a scientist and I do have proof. Wilson and I emailed on this topic for awhile and came to a better understanding. AZ seems to prefer a more hands off approach. If a bogus method is being sold on their site they don't jump in and take sides. It's more of a live and let live attitude, except when it isn't.
Do you really believe Poolology to be bogus? It is the only method currently for sale.