:: Southwest - Full Splice + Wrapless + Bridged Point ::

or1pkt said:
Am I the only one who feels like this devalues the SW name drastically? I mean don't get me wrong the cue is very nice but isn't this making SW a cue assembler and not a cue builder what's next ? A SW w a Davis blank? It just shocks me Laurie used a numbered pin on a cue they didn't build 100% JMO
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Jerry Franklin did some conversions and they are worth a ton of money these days. Honestly, I could not put a value on this cue but if I had to, I think this cue would be worth no less than 5K, to me. Like anything else, a cue is worth whatever somebody is willing to pay for it.
The provenance of this cue is without a doubt from one of the top new cuemakers. By the way, I bet that SW already did a JD conversion. John Davis is a living legend that needs to be respected that way...
 
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or1pkt said:
Am I the only one who feels like this devalues the SW name drastically? I mean don't get me wrong the cue is very nice but isn't this making SW a cue assembler and not a cue builder what's next ? A SW w a Davis blank? It just shocks me Laurie used a numbered pin on a cue they didn't build 100% JMO
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No. Nice cue but the bridged points on a full splice is easy and really looks cheap. The one thing every cue maker has the most trouble with in full splice construction is perfect point convergence at the base of the points. Taking the easy way out with the bridge work also narrows the points and is less appealing aesthetically.

This collaboration does nothing for SW.

That said, the cue is really nice and the execution is flawless.
 
Jake Hulsey is not as well known to some of you in the cue business as he
is really a very successful businessman.Those of you who know him will join me
in recognizing a true and unique talent

Jake is known for his ability to to do the most far out designs,perhaps
he does what no one else can do,When I approached him to do this project for me
I asked for a regular full splice cue, blank with sharp points up and down.
I had seen him make some and I was convinced that his were as good as
any if not better.

Jake was so flattered to be asked to work on the project with Laurie Franklin
that he designed the full splice bridge point cue.Both he and I thought it was
a first in the cue making industry(I still think so,I thought it was a touch of genius)

Jake's first thought was to do something that Southwest would be proud to do and that the new owners would enjoy forever.

Jake wanted to keep one,I wanted to keep one(but as you guys know,i always sell everything and
the guys who collect get the big win)

It grieves me to hear the criticisms over little details,especially when those very details are the things I have been bragging on the most.

To tell the truth,sometimes guys(and gals) like to get together and have some fun with what they do best.

Putting Jake together with the legend of pool cue making,Laurie Franklin 'and producing this beautiful
cue was one of the highlights of my day.

We weren't trying to please the critic,we were trying to have a little fun,it may have turned out
that in the process someone may have a true classic cue that makes history

dean
 
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I absolutely love everything about this cue except the fact I do not own it or one like it.. Great job Dean for your vision on this one.. A true masterpiece..
 
Dean, I believe you meant Jake Hulsey. :thumbup: :wink:

I really don't understand any negativity around this cue. A man used his spot on SW's list, SW agreed to the collaboration, and a great cue was born (or maybe two were born). How in the world could this be a negative for SW, the cue owners, or anyone else for that matter????

Oh.. and we also learned in this thread that full splice bridged veneers are easy. This place never ceases to amaze...
 
I corrected the spelling
thanks to Jamie

The vision was the cue makers,I just put the 2 together

Sometimes I wish I had what it takes to just keep the cues,seriously

when I first started someone accused me of keeping the good stuff for myself
Oh,how I wish I had

I had an ivory joint Balabushka,the last Balabushka ever made,one of the last 3 Szamboti
the last ivory wrapped SouthWest that Jerry made, The Violin Cue by Kersenbrock/Franklin
etc etc now this one,I am getting a case of POST PARTUM

I missed out buying Willie Mosconi's personal Balabushka for $2700 from willie in
Ft Worth,I told him it was too much.
When it sold for $90.000 later,I was moping aroung thinking how I had just lost $87,000 through my
own stupidity,
When my good friend Denny Glenn cheered me up with these words"Dean,you only lost $1'000 because you would have sold it to me the day you bought it"

I said with a cheery countenance"You are right",
Denny looked a little down and said"So I am the guy who lost $87,000"

"Better you than me,you can afford it" said I

How much do you think I lost letting this beauty go?
 
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deanoc said:
I corrected the spelling
thanks to Jamie

The vision was the cue makers,I just put the 2 together

Sometimes I wish I had what it takes to just keep the cues,seriously

when I first started someone accused me of keeping the good stuff for myself
Oh,how I wish I had

I had an ivory joint Balabushka,the last Balabushka ever made,one of the last 3 Szamboti
the last ivory wrapped SouthWest that Jerry made, The Violin Cue by Kersenbrock/Franklin
etc etc now this one,I am getting a case of POST PARTUM

I missed out buying Willie Mosconi's personal Balabushka for $2700 from willie in
Ft Worth,I told him it was too much.
When it sold for $90.000 later,I was moping aroung thinking how I had just lost $87,000 through my
own stupidity,
When my good friend Denny Glenn cheered me up with these words"Dean,you only lost $1'000 because you would have sold it to me the day you bought it"

I said with a cheery countenance"You are right",
Denny looked a little down and said"So I am the guy who lost $87,000"

"Better you than me,you can afford it" said I

How much do you think I lost letting this beauty go?
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Well, I really don't know what its worth or sold for but I'd go to $6K on it if I didn't just remodel my restaurant
 
Worminator said:
Dean, I believe you meant Jake Hulsey. :thumbup: :wink:

I really don't understand any negativity around this cue. A man used his spot on SW's list, SW agreed to the collaboration, and a great cue was born (or maybe two were born). How in the world could this be a negative for SW, the cue owners, or anyone else for that matter????

Oh.. and we also learned in this thread that full splice bridged veneers are easy. This place never ceases to amaze...
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Jamie

This place starting to have too many " Haters " and a lot of stupidity. instead of praising the cue itself and a good collaboration of 2 makers. There a lot of uncalled for comments.
@ Dean., great job & great cue. I don't know how you manage to get Jake to build a blank for you for the collaboration :thumbup::thumbup: unless you have beaten Jake in one pocket on your home table over your wknd lunch meets ? I will take a trip out to have the lunch meet with you guys and learn some 1 hole from you guys.
 
I think it's a breath of fresh air for southwest. Something new and interesting that is outside of the wheelhouse. Thanks for sharing!

I can't speak to the value, but I highly doubt that the anything about this cue was "easy" to build... that's 100% troll material right there.
 
PRED said:
No. Nice cue but the bridged points on a full splice is easy and really looks cheap. The one thing every cue maker has the most trouble with in full splice construction is perfect point convergence at the base of the points. Taking the easy way out with the bridge work also narrows the points and is less appealing aesthetically.
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The most moronic thing I've read on AZ all month, and that is saying a lot.
 
Wawa

you are welcome to come any time
our home is open and I have a nice Gold Crown 5

it is for sale as the pockets are too tight for me

maybe next year I can do something for you
 
PRED said:
No. Nice cue but the bridged points on a full splice is easy and really looks cheap. The one thing every cue maker has the most trouble with in full splice construction is perfect point convergence at the base of the points. Taking the easy way out with the bridge work also narrows the points and is less appealing aesthetically.



This collaboration does nothing for SW.



That said, the cue is really nice and the execution is flawless.
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If you're a cue maker or wannabe I'd love to see your work otherwise I see nothing but a pretentious keyboard Cuemaker poseur wannabe who thinks he knows it all.

If you don't make cues but just collect then don't pretend to know how difficult it is to make cues. I think cooking is easy too, buy materials and throw into hot pan. Why would anyone visit a Michelin restaurant. I think wine is just smashed grapes, so nothing special to charge to much and Dole can do everything that Lafite can. Maybe Chateau Dole someday.

It's easy to write and comment stuff just because you've seen some cues. I personally like the bridge point in full splice. I think it's unique and something you don't see everyday. As for it being cheap? Well obviously you don't know much about cues so I shan't waste my time with you.

Many designs in life are so simple yet when it happens people just go ohh and wow but ofcourse those are people who appreciates and understand aesthetics. Then there are those who just stand by the said and say "I could've done that", those are the people who'll never be original.

I'm not pissed because you criticized a cue I own and make it sound like I have a bad cue.
I'm upset for the cue maker who worked hard on accomplishing a gorgeous cue but is being belittled. Jake didn't take the easy way out on this cue. He can do sharp points but he's too creative and original for that. He needs to be original yet nothing too far out to not be Southwest-ish.

Why am I explaining, you're just a troll. Enjoy your fancy cuetec.
 
deanoc said:
Wawa

you are welcome to come any time
our home is open and I have a nice Gold Crown 5

it is for sale as the pockets are too tight for me

maybe next year I can do something for you
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Dean

Thank you.... I know you always welcome me with an open hand.
As for your G.C 5, is not what I heard about how you handle those tight pockets.
I heard you move them ball & hitting those 4 inch pocket like a snooker player.
Yes, we can do some project down the road for sure.
 
or1pkt said:
Am I the only one who feels like this devalues the SW name drastically? I mean don't get me wrong the cue is very nice but isn't this making SW a cue assembler and not a cue builder what's next ? A SW w a Davis blank? It just shocks me Laurie used a numbered pin on a cue they didn't build 100% JMO
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I don't want to be interpreted as a hater on this...as I stated the cue is awesome with a nice design and flawless execution by both parties I m merely pointing out that SW would be the last maker that I would have expected to be in a collaboration (unless maybe with kersenbrock) I was just very surprised to see Laurie step outside the box with their operation.
 
congrats on a cool cue

Fantastic cue.....a SW made from another blank is a VERY, VERY, VERY rare bird, indeed. They've made SO FEW of them over the years. And to have such a different type of blank and collaboration with Jake such as this, well, I think those of us who know cues realize just how unique & special this one is. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
 
cueaddicts said:
Fantastic cue.....a SW made from another blank is a VERY, VERY, VERY rare bird, indeed. They've made SO FEW of them over the years. And to have such a different type of blank and collaboration with Jake such as this, well, I think those of us who know cues realize just how unique & special this one is. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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We certainly do!
 
Worminator said:
Dean, I believe you meant Jake Hulsey. :thumbup: :wink:

I really don't understand any negativity around this cue. A man used his spot on SW's list, SW agreed to the collaboration, and a great cue was born (or maybe two were born). How in the world could this be a negative for SW, the cue owners, or anyone else for that matter????

Oh.. and we also learned in this thread that full splice bridged veneers are easy. This place never ceases to amaze...
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Well Jamie I am shocked you didn't know how easy they were. :wink: As someone else said the cue world is full of haters, lottsa times it because they can't afford it, and they make dumb comments as anonymous people. Its easy to talk sh*t when you don't know what a$$ the sh*t is coming from.

SW has earned there place and if they want to throw in a conversion of someone else's prongs, good for them.

Joe
 
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