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The southwest I have for sale is 96 #543 is this franklin era? Don't really want to call Laurie because it makes no difference to me. All their cues are great!! There has been some interest in this cue, so I thought someone on here could clear this up. thanks JASON
 
jasonlaus said:
The southwest I have for sale is 96 #543 is this franklin era? Don't really want to call Laurie because it makes no difference to me. All their cues are great!! There has been some interest in this cue, so I thought someone on here could clear this up. thanks JASON
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I think anything through "95" when Jerry passed is considered a "Franklin era" cue, so a "96" would not be. Im not 100% sure, but I think thats how it works.

Got any pics?
 
custmqs said:
I believe Mr. Franklin passed away in May of 1996...
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This could very well be. (I wasn't sure if it was 95 or 96). In that case I guess it could very well be a Frankiln era cue.
Sorry for the confusion..:confused:
 
Some from 96 are, some are not. Maybe we can put this to bed once and for all, when we get the answer. I'm sure Laurie loves to answer this question NOT. Maybe the next Blue Book can put in this information.
 
SW cues start each year with the number 300, so your cue was the 244th cue made in 1996. Jerry Franklin passed away on 5/11/96. His hands might have touched your cue, but most likely not. Laurie would know for sure.
 
Quality Cues said:
SW cues start each year with the number 300, so your cue was the 244th cue made in 1996. Jerry Franklin passed away on 5/11/96. His hands might have touched your cue, but most likely not. Laurie would know for sure.
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Thanks Mike.
 
from what i have been told Jerry was strictly doing finish work and fancy cues after '93.

that being said your cue was being built while Jerry was there so technically,imo it would be a Franklin.to me any cue from '96 would have to be a Franklin since there is no way to tell if he touched it or not.either all cues from '96 should be considered Franklins or no cues from '96,imo.

i have heard the number 460 over the years as being a theoretical cut off point,but to me that doesn't really make sense.how does anyone know for sure that he worked on cue 459 and not cue 461.they didn't just build one after another.i would assume that they were all sitting around in different phases of completeion and maybe 461 was finished the same day as number 459.

all of this is just what i ahve over the years and is by no means guaranteed accurate.
 
Hi Jason;

That cue was originally purchased by me and a friend. We bought 3 cues at the same time. My friend knows Laurie and, then, Jerry very well. Whether or not Jerry worked on the cue is really unknown. The pin number was a number typically delivered after Jerry's death.

However, although we ordered 3 cues at the same time, the numbers were miles apart. I sold one of the cues to a friend that works for me and that pin is 96-475. It was ordered and delivered at the same time as the cue you have.

So, really, I think they all, 96, should be considered Franklin era cues. Purist, will go by the numbers but as you can see, the numbers we received were way out of sequence.
 
the last "franklin" is 396-96 or 409-96 i believe.
i can find out 100% if needed.

chris G<-------knows stuff.
 
knowledge is priceless, as iv'e been told the last number shipped was 376-96. there was 4 picked up after funeral, joe blackburn confirmed that he was 1 of the 4. i once owned 379-96 last fancy one completed, which was picked up after also. any after 380 isn't a franklin. hope this helps. don
 
i have heard that he did alot of work on the 96's except for the finishing. which is not that big of a deal anyways, as long as he built the cue the finish is not going to be a price breaker. you have to call her and find out.
 
masonh said:
from what i have been told Jerry was strictly doing finish work and fancy cues after '93.

that being said your cue was being built while Jerry was there so technically,imo it would be a Franklin.to me any cue from '96 would have to be a Franklin since there is no way to tell if he touched it or not.either all cues from '96 should be considered Franklins or no cues from '96,imo.

i have heard the number 460 over the years as being a theoretical cut off point,but to me that doesn't really make sense.how does anyone know for sure that he worked on cue 459 and not cue 461.they didn't just build one after another.i would assume that they were all sitting around in different phases of completeion and maybe 461 was finished the same day as number 459.

all of this is just what i ahve over the years and is by no means guaranteed accurate.
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I have my Southwest for sale on ebay right now with 4 shafts. The pin number is 460-96. Someone said it was not a Jerry Franklin Era cue like I stated so, I called Laurie. She looked it up and told me that Jerry died in May of 96 so the only thing he did not do to my cue is Pollish it.
I have a thread for it at Jerry Franklin Soutwest for sale, if you are interested. Sale ends Tuesday. ;)
 
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Quality Cues said:
SW cues start each year with the number 300, so your cue was the 244th cue made in 1996. Jerry Franklin passed away on 5/11/96. His hands might have touched your cue, but most likely not. Laurie would know for sure.
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Southwest makes ALOT of cues. That was the 244th cue that year. Think about that for a minute.

Several cuemakers make 30 or less in a year and those folks are cranking them out in MONTH!.

WOW, pretty much a production line. But I guess sense they only have the one model, no inlays, I can see it a little.

Ken
 
they do make a lot of cues...but the demand still out weights the production -keeping prices high-

and prices will rise even more as SW has raised their prices across the board and no longer have a price list, they just take orders and when your name comes up (10+yr wait) the cost of the cue at that time is the cost of the cue. right now a 3 laminate 6 pointer will run about 2500 before you add any options to the cue....

add ebony or tulip forearm - 200
add matching JPs - 200-400
add ivory ferrules - 100 per
add A B rings - 250

you get the idea

you will see the secondary market cue value rise in unison.
 
chazdillon said:
i have heard that he did alot of work on the 96's except for the finishing. which is not that big of a deal anyways, as long as he built the cue the finish is not going to be a price breaker. you have to call her and find out.
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Masonh is correct...Chaz, whoever told you that Jerry was doing all the work "except" the finishes is mistaken. I've spoken directly with Laurie regarding this matter. Jerry wasn't doing anything but the finishes for the last two years. As far as the "Franklin era" cues of '96, I would definately listen to Sureman. Don knows whats up...I hope this helps...take care
 
i have bad news for all you guys jerry franklin hardly touch a cue after 1994, he mostly overseen the shop . He was enjoying life the last 2 years before he past away. so you may have a jerry franklin era cue but you probably dont have a cue built by jerry. al started working at the shop in 1988 and started building cues with jerry in 1990. so if you have a 1990 to 1994 southwest jerry may have built it. if you have a pre 1990 southwest jerry did build it and if you have a 1994 or after it would be a very rare cue if jerry built it.
 
findcue4u said:
i have bad news for all you guys jerry franklin hardly touch a cue after 1994, he mostly overseen the shop . He was enjoying life the last 2 years before he past away. so you may have a jerry franklin era cue but you probably dont have a cue built by jerry. al started working at the shop in 1988 and started building cues with jerry in 1990. so if you have a 1990 to 1994 southwest jerry may have built it. if you have a pre 1990 southwest jerry did build it and if you have a 1994 or after it would be a very rare cue if jerry built it.
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So my '89 is definitely a jerry cue then....sweet:grin: Thanks tim
 
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