Spot Shot English

[Black-Balled]

That’s what I had said in my post he meant to quote.

Anyway, if your opponent has a relatively low risk shot directly at his hole after you pocketed the last ball in a non-scoring pocket it’s a silly thing to do


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Well, I certainly wouldn't suggest leaving him shooting toward his pocket. He is going to the other side of the table. I figured that was a given.

 

[Black-Balled]

Now let's see if I have it. This thread posed an initial inquiry concerning "English", correct? So answers refering to "spin" were mistaken or nonresponsive? Did anyone not understand my reference to "top English"? Was actual confusion created? I have heard the terms "English" (yes, it is supposed to be capitalized) and "spin" used interchangeably my entire pool life. To me, "follow" and "draw" have always sounded stilted or affected. (please note the "a", you smug students of spelling, usage, and grammar.) And, further, you labor to draw a distinction for the benefit of a group that does not know, or is incapable of recognizing, the very important differences between "your" and "you're" and "to" and "too"? Two, or more, can play this game.

So your point that ou'll remember english is lateral, not vertical?

 

[book collector]

Now let's see if I have it. This thread posed an initial inquiry concerning "English", correct? So answers refering to "spin" were mistaken or nonresponsive? Did anyone not understand my reference to "top English"? Was actual confusion created? I have heard the terms "English" (yes, it is supposed to be capitalized) and "spin" used interchangeably my entire pool life. To me, "follow" and "draw" have always sounded stilted or affected. (please note the "a", you smug students of spelling, usage, and grammar.) And, further, you labor to draw a distinction for the benefit of a group that does not know, or is incapable of recognizing, the very important differences between "your" and "you're" and "to" and "too"? Two, or more, can play this game.

Rememeber the John Travolta movie Phenomenon, the scientist asked him to name all mammals backwards and he said in alphabetic order or not? "Be specific Bob" or something like that, anal retentive people just can't help themselves. Never give anything away.

 

[Tennesseejoe]

Your opponents scratches don't c

the best way to shoot a spot shot with another opponent's balls still in play is to play position so if you miss he have less than a good shot at getting out.

if you need multiple balls then its wise to play position on them as a spot shot is considered an easy shot and you should be able to make it most times and put the cuebll about where you want it on the table.

and in many or most cases where you need just one ball, you want to leave the cueball down on the short rail so he is shooting up table at his balls.

so your spot shot is to be hit with low or low and outside to hit the long rail and settle in on the short rail. that is the best spot that will not leave him an easy bank if you miss yet is one of the easiest ways of making a spot shot almost every time.

Ignoring all the minor details and just saying how to shoot a spot shot with ball in hand, I am going to shoot it with a little high, half that much or less outside. My way of thinking, this is most likely to give a consistent interaction between cue ball and object ball since I don't want to shoot that far with the cue ball still skidding. I am aiming for center pocket and giving zero consideration to where balls will go if I miss assuming this is my game ball. "What if I miss?" is one of the worst thoughts you can have. Either commit to the shot or another one, don't half ass the shot such as "missing on the pro side" involves. The shot is tough, so you are going to make it more difficult?

I have slept since using this but there is an easy way to make spot shots. I forget where the cue ball goes but you aim at the first diamond on the foot of the table. Ignore the ball on the spot, it is going in with no thought or calculation, no worries about what could go wrong. Somebody with a better memory can describe this shot.

Hu

I agree with you even though it may not be the correct answer to the masses. But to me it is the shot if my life was on the line. To others who responded, I referenced One Pocket only to clarify what a spot shot is but it generated several considerations. In a One Pocket game, placing the cue ball slightly left of center on the head string is my choice unless other balls are on the table.
Thanks for the comments folks.

 

[alphadog]

Anybody do the CTE thingy? It wurks ya no.

 

[bbb]

i havent read thru the whole thread
i apologize
but if i have to make a spot shot to make it for the set /game/championship
i set up a half ball hit
aim and make it......
shooting a 2 way shot puts doubt in your mind
if a had to shoot it 2 way i would use low outside to leave the cue ball on the foot rail and leave a long distance bank

 

[Ratamon]

Well, I certainly wouldn't suggest leaving him shooting toward his pocket. He is going to the other side of the table. I figured that was a given.

I was working off the premise that the guy has a shot at his pocket. The only viable scenario (other than "scratches don't count" which I haven't seen in ages) is that the ball got pocketed into a neutral pocket by his opponent on the previous shot, that's all.

I agree you can leave him uptable at a scratch angle but I've known players who'd draw the rock with low outside, pocket the ball and avoid scratching. It's all down to the skill level I guess.

 

[Ratamon]

Sometimes it is unavoidable and honestly, I prefer to be the one who drops that ball than the one who shoots from the end rail.

What do you suggest when the only ball is right in front of a pocket at the head end of the table?

If the CB is close to the OB, I’d try to corner hook him. No big deal if I scratch as two balls are coming on the spot.


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[eg9327]

Depends upon where you want the cue ball to go. For the best aiming, though, shoot with center ball.

 

[eg9327]

Nothing at all and play pocket speed, like almost trickle pocket speed, for me anyway.

Trickling a spot shot to the pocket leaves you more suscepible to skid.