Stolen league money
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are you sure you can charge expenses in small claims court?
Would subject them to taxation. Though it would protect them from liability.
To the OP....how are the local league players responding? Imagine they gotta be super pissed.
The league money was stolen two nights after the least week concluded. The end of season banquet was officially cancelled as of yesterday.
Sounds like he's ducking.
You will win easily in small claims. Costs like 10 bucks to file. You win if he no shows and you need to prove your case more likely than he does. What is his response going to be? He is liable period.
Either way. He is liable so he should be telling everyone how he is going to pay the money. Sell something.
That's only if you incorporate your business. I could see incorporating a for-profit APA league, but no one in their right mind would ever incorporate a not-for-profit BCAPL league. The fees to do so can run several hundred dollars, and it's not worth the time and effort of the paperwork. Anyways, just about every league IS registered as a business. In order to get a business bank account you have to have a tax ID number. But having that provides absolutely no protection to your personal property from lawsuits.
It’s a private group page, I think you’d have to be invited to join by a member.
IMO, someone needs to be that guy in the public forum.
It can be as simply as asking him:
Do you realize how shady this looks?
Does he realize that his LO manual recommends the funds be in a bank?
How he plans to prevent this from repeating with the next $19k he holds?
Sympathetic my A$$, it needs to be uncomfortable, it's not his money he lost but it was certainly his responsibility to secure it.
Everyone is thinking it, someone needs to say it...
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There have definitely been a few who’ve asked “why wasn’t the money in the bank”? No one has outright accused him of stealing it, but a few have subtly accused him of extreme negligence, which he has already acknowledged.
somebody mentioned including mileage and other expenses in small Claims court- That was the ONLY thing i questioned-tacking on expenses to the suit. I myself am undefeated in small claims court. The limit for small claims is or recently was $5k so all the members would have to file separately then.
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19000 = 190 x $100 bills
19000 = 380 x $50 bills
19000 = 950 x $20 bills
19000 = 1900 x $10 bills
19000 = 3800 x $5 bills
Point is no small safe could hold that kind of cash " physically"
Second, the money was given in small denominations!
Third, even a moron would notice that the safe was filling up and realize that this is a safety issue.
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19000 = 380 x $50 bills
19000 = 950 x $20 bills
19000 = 1900 x $10 bills
19000 = 3800 x $5 bills
Point is no small safe could hold that kind of cash " physically"
Second, the money was given in small denominations!
Third, even a moron would notice that the safe was filling up and realize that this is a safety issue.
Kd
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I hope you’re not referring to me. I’m actually one of the most silent people about the issue. I have already chalked it up to a loss. My team won the league, so I was due my share of that, I earned the 2nd place overall individual shooter bonus, and 1st place “table run” bonus. I was going to take more of that money than anyone. I’m just not the type of person that gets stressed out over something like this. I’m disappointed for sure, but legal action is not worth my time and energy. The extent of my wasted energy on this will be a phone call (or three) to make sure a report was filed with the same info he gave us, and this thread.
Some people are claiming they needed this money to buy groceries, etc. if that’s true, they shouldn’t be playing in a pool league. I can live just fine without this money, it just sucks a little.
Edited to add: the police department is about an hour from my house, the Phoenix area is kinda big.
Agreed, there are a few cases where someone puts in a $50 bill and takes the small bills. Even fewer cases where I have to break a $100 bill for change. It is a pile of 20s, 10s, 5s and a crazy amount of 1s...
Of course a "Small Safe" could be as large as a Ice Cooler that could still be carried away... Assuming that is what happened.
In most league cases, the top 1/3 would be receiving the lion's share so they are the most affected.
IMO, the issues is less about the actual money but more about the stupidity, prevention and/or potential BS in the first place.
Again, regardless of the LO involvement or lack of involvement; someone knew this was the time/place...and of course, this "someone" is still in the picture.
Any response from the BCAPL headquarters ?
Or
Is it " no comment" still?
Kd
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