Streaming In good concious HOW CAN I ?

Matt90

Matt90

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There is a good tournament this weekend that I would like to go to ,so I
thought why not stream it while I am there .I got the right stuff for the
job . Then I think well why not call a few supporters of mine to see if they
perhaps want to advertise while I am there .So all this gets my wheels
turning. See I love pool, I am VERY good with all kinds of video equipment
and over the past year and a half or so have done around 18 tournaments.
Let me say this I HAD A GOOD TIME. However there are a few things that
come up that bother me .I am not hating on anyones action or want to do
anything to hurt anyone who truely supports pool and some of the great folks
I have met doing streams BUT here is a HUGE problem. If I am streaming and
advertising for X cues all the while this is a Z sponsored tournament it sorta
makes me feel in conflict.As it should or so I think.
Now this is just my two cents and I may get bashed but I believe if a tournament
is worthy of a good stream that the tournament director or promoter of the tournament
should negotiate a price with the streamer and
the "DIRECT" sponsors of that tournament should get the press on the stream
This way there is no conflict and Z cues is not watching there tournament being streamed
and sponsored by X cues. I guess I have been through the
mill trying to find the RIGHT way to make this streaming thing work for me and
in good concious I think that is the best way. This keeps everyone happy and
may even help solve the delima of the good streamers getting to the point
where they get paid for what they provide .
In a nutshell , let the tournament director and or promoter ask the tournament
sponsors if they want to pay a little extra to cover a live stream and go from there.
I just hate being in conflict and would like to see live streaming grow and prosper for those
who do a good job of it and have there heart in the right place .So go ahead bash
me ...like I said I had a good time and could at thispoint care less if I stream another tournament
or not. I got a cue and will just pony up my entree fee and play .
 
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Matt I would recommend mentioning stream sponsors and tournament sponsors. When I did a state tour we would say the sponsors for the stream are.... and the tour sponsors are...., it IMO did not work too badly but the sponsors do want more exposure and should send a few bucks your way. I know equipment is not cheap and time is even more valuable, I have been doing it for quite sometime and have streamed about 100 different times for pool, I just love the game and the people around it.

IMO sponsoring tours is great for companies but without the live streams the exposure for sponsors is very limited. Say you have 2-300 people who show up to sweat a tournament over a weekend, you will have a minimum of 5,000 people and upwards to 20,000-30,000 who might come online to watch. How many people watched the Seminole stream recently?
 
Matt90 said:
In a nutshell, let the tournament director and or promoter ask the tournament sponsors if they want to pay a little extra to cover a live stream and go from there.
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I think that is a polite, common courtesy thing to do. Sadly polite and common courtesy don't always fit into the cut throat business world. It simply depends on the type of people you're dealing with and only you will know that. You're going to need to be good at reading people to know if the courtesy you've extended will be appreciated or crapped on. Good luck in your endeavors, I enjoy your streams. :smile:
 
You got that right

I like Lenny's new avatar and your post :grin:
UrackmIcrackm said:
I think that is a polite, common courtesy thing to do. Sadly polite and common courtesy don't always fit into the cut throat business world. It simply depends on the type of people you're dealing with and only you will know that. You're going to need to be good at reading people to know if the courtesy you've extended will be appreciated or crapped on. Good luck in your endeavors, I enjoy your streams. :smile:
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I enjoy your streams (and a lot of others) and I will let you work out the details. I'm currently watching the Russian 8 ball championships, no idea who the sponsors are.
 
are you gonna have a chip in link???

i got some work goin on so maybe i can through ya something to help !

anyone else wanna ?
 
link

The chip in link is at the bottom of my signature where it's been for a while now.
 
Can you make it more noticeable?

Matt90 said:
The chip in link is at the bottom of my signature where it's been for a while now.
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Matt,

I made a pass through the various streamers a few weeks or so ago sending them each a few bucks. I don't remember but I think I missed you because I couldn't find a link to just donate. You may want to make the link more noticeable.

I do think Lenny has the right solution at the present stage of live streaming. You need to promote your sponsors but you shouldn't promote them to a greater extent than the event or tour sponsors when streaming their event. That leaves only the option of carefully spelling out who is sponsoring what.

Hu
 
Best of luck

Matt90 said:
There is a good tournament this weekend that I would like to go to ,so I
thought why not stream it while I am there .I got the right stuff for the
job . Then I think well why not call a few supporters of mine to see if they
perhaps want to advertise while I am there .So all this gets my wheels
turning. See I love pool, I am VERY good with all kinds of video equipment
and over the past year and a half or so have done around 18 tournaments.
Let me say this I HAD A GOOD TIME. However there are a few things that
come up that bother me .I am not hating on anyones action or want to do
anything to hurt anyone who truely supports pool and some of the great folks
I have met doing streams BUT here is a HUGE problem. If I am streaming and
advertising for X cues all the while this is a Z sponsored tournament it sorta
makes me feel in conflict.As it should or so I think.
Now this is just my two cents and I may get bashed but I believe if a tournament
is worthy of a good stream that the tournament director or promoter of the tournament
should negotiate a price with the streamer and
the "DIRECT" sponsors of that tournament should get the press on the stream
This way there is no conflict and Z cues is not watching there tournament being streamed
and sponsored by X cues. I guess I have been through the
mill trying to find the RIGHT way to make this streaming thing work for me and
in good concious I think that is the best way. This keeps everyone happy and
may even help solve the delima of the good streamers getting to the point
where they get paid for what they provide .
In a nutshell , let the tournament director and or promoter ask the tournament
sponsors if they want to pay a little extra to cover a live stream and go from there.
I just hate being in conflict and would like to see live streaming grow and prosper for those
who do a good job of it and have there heart in the right place .So go ahead bash
me ...like I said I had a good time and could at thispoint care less if I stream another tournament
or not. I got a cue and will just pony up my entree fee and play .
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Matt -

The Jacoby Carolina Tour has been very fortunate to have had you stream on several occasions - and at your own expense, I might add. You are very talented and have high standards, for which you have my respect. Hopefully, you will find the right formula for success. I must disagree with one thing, however. You DO still care. You love pool too much not to. Thanks for supporting the Jacoby Tour and good luck in all your future endeavors. Whether they include pool or not, you deserve to be compensated for your talent and efforts. Best regards. - Doug

Doug Ennis
Rock City Promotions
Tour Director, Jacoby Custom Cues Carolina Tour
 
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