Table id and advice on this awesome table!

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All I know is that it's a semi snooker table. Would this be something to jump on? Very nice oak. Would it be easy to modernize?
 

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All I know is that it's a semi snooker table. Would this be something to jump on? Very nice oak. Would it be easy to modernize?

I would pass regardless of the price. A lot of those old antique tables have t mounted rails. I have never liked the way t-rails play. Not sure how to describe it, but they just play "different" to me than a more modern top mount rail. Diamond, GC, Anniversary etc.

If your primary objective for a table is play ability, similar to what you will see at current pool halls, I think you will be disappointed regardless of how much you sink into this table.

Now if your primary objective is looks and secondary is play ability, it might be a good choice.

I am a player, not a mechanic and only speaking from my experience. I am sure some mechanics will responded as well.

Ian
 
It looks to be a Brunswick Jefferson. From the pre-WWI era, based on the ivory diamond rail spots.
The extra Snooker balls don't change the fact it is a Pool table:).

You can confirm at the Brunswick antique site.

Dale
 
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Thx guys, the rail issue is something I would not have anticipated. This is a free table, so my mind is working ot on how I can possess it. Lack of space to set up and for storage are what's killing me now
 
Looks like it might be worth more than free just for the cues if the come with it. I spotted at least 1 butterfly bar cue.
 
Thx guys, the rail issue is something I would not have anticipated. This is a free table, so my mind is working ot on how I can possess it. Lack of space to set up and for storage are what's killing me now

The table is indeed "The Jefferson" model and is easily 100+ years old.

Yes, the rails will need to be rebuilt to play "properly" but it can be done. In fact Jeremy Chambers can fabricate a whole new set of rails for you that will play as good as modern rails.

Here is the Brunswick catalog info:
http://antiquetables.brunswickbilliards.com/our_rich_history/antique_tables/jefferson.html

And here is the patent that Brunswick filed for that table's design, although they clearly changed the design after being granted the patent.
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/06/04/cb/6d1f1e79668a88/USD42463.pdf
 
its set up now so go shoot on it. i love the way the old tables play. no need probably to do anything to it. you dont have to try to turn it into a gold crown or diamond.
if i needed another 9 footer i would easily pay 1000 for it and felt i stole it.
 
its set up now so go shoot on it. i love the way the old tables play. no need probably to do anything to it. you dont have to try to turn it into a gold crown or diamond.
if i needed another 9 footer i would easily pay 1000 for it and felt i stole it.

Agree completely
 
its set up now so go shoot on it. i love the way the old tables play. no need probably to do anything to it.

A good friend here in Saskatoon had a similar table years ago. Its rails were square-nosed and extremely hard (who knows, maybe the original rubber, the threadbare cloth suggested that might be a possibility). It was difficult enough to shoot a cross-side bank let alone go 3 rails for shape :eek: Eventually he had the rails re-done and they were so lively that going 5 rails was a possibility if you over-stroked a bit :grin: Totally messed with our heads :embarrassed2:

Dave
 
To each his own:):):)

I don’t like oak wood at all, and I wouldn’t take any antique table if you paid me. Ha ha.
 
I think it is a nice looking table

i would take it if i had a place to put it
once you fixed the few items
yiou would probably have a real nice table

but i expect it would be over $2000 to move,set up,and fix
the rails

but then you would have a hum dinger
 
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