Takini Cloth ( Very Similar to SIMONIS )

I promise you i will be fine, and i am a stand up guy who ships cues all over the world and who is continuing to get great feedback.

3 negative feedbacks in just 1 short month. 12 feedbacks from May till June.
25% of your feedbacks are negative. You call that great?
 
Me to Kenny:

I think I found a 12.75 shaft, and it is a friend of mine.


Send me the other smaller straighter shaft of the 2 I sent and I will get the one from her as a trade.


Chris

Kenny to Me:

I do not know if you do not understand or what...I want a extra fuller SW shaft as a compensation, not to trade one of the original shafts.

发自我的 iPhone

Me to Kenny:


show details Jun 14 (8 days ago)

Well Good Luck! i am trying to help you out, i am not going to send you another shaft
for nothing.


JUST SEND THE F$%##@ CUE BACK!!


I am tired of trying to help you, it is obvious now you are be unreasonable. If you send me the Shaft i will get one
to replace that one.


Chris

Kenny to Me: ( trying to threaten me with my peers to get a free shaft )

I am giving you many chances to make it right and thought you might be a stand up guy. You already have very bad reputation on AZ. I know if I post this story on AZ, you could be done on AZ. But looks like I have no other option. At least I can warn other az victims from buying craps from you.

Me to Kenny:

you do what you have to, i think many people on AZ will see that i tried to make it right but your
GREED stopped that from happening!


They will also see that i gave you the option to send the cue back, however you chose to TRY and ruin
my reputation on AZ.


I promise you i will be fine, and i am a stand up guy who ships cues all over the world and who is continuing to get great feedback.


Regards..


Me to Kenny: ( FINAL )

Send back the shaft, and i will get you one to replace it with, otherwise we're done talking. I am not going to
give you a FREE southwest shaft…..


Thats our Conversation via Email, as you ALL can now see he makes it out like i had no communication with him and was trying to dodge him, which is just Crazy!!

And as far as XPLAY goes, i have offered to repair the cue for FREE and am awaiting his reply, SO PEOPLE PLEASE STOP SAYING I AM A SCAMMER...

Chris, I couldn't believe you really posted some of our emails here but you have missed some. Let me post everything here WITHOUT editing anything. I do not want anyone get misled by you again. Sorry guys. They may be a bit long but quite interesting to read though. Thanks for your time.

Chris McCreary to me
show details Jun 15 (9 days ago)

you do what you have to, i think many people on AZ will see that i tried to make it right but your
GREED stopped that from happening!


They will also see that i gave you the option to send the cue back, however you chose to TRY and ruin
my reputation on AZ.


I promise you i will be fine, and i am a stand up guy who ships cues all over the world and who is continuing to get great feedback.


Regards..




Send back the shaft, and i will get you one to replace it with, otherwise we're done talking. I am not going to
give you a FREE southwest shaft…..
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On Jun 14, 2011, at 11:12 PM, Kenny Kwok wrote:


I am giving you many chances to make it right and thought you might be a stand up guy. You already have very bad reputation on AZ. I know if I post this story on AZ, you could be done on AZ. But looks like I have no other option. At least I can warn other az victims from buying craps from you.


On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Chris McCreary <singernak@gmail.com> wrote:

Well Good Luck! i am trying to help you out, i am not going to send you another shaft
for nothing.


JUST SEND THE ****ING CUE BACK!!


I am tired of trying to help you, it is obvious now you are be unreasonable. If you send me the Shaft i will get one
to replace that one.


Chris




On Jun 14, 2011, at 10:32 PM, Kenny Kwok wrote:


I do not know if you do not understand or what...I want a extra fuller SW shaft as a compensation, not to trade one of the original shafts.

发自我的 iPhone

在 2011-6-15,1:47,Chris McCreary <singernak@gmail.com> 写道:


I think I found a 12.75 shaft, and it is a friend of mine.


Send me the other smaller straighter shaft of the 2 I sent and I will get the one from her as a trade.


Chris

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 13, 2011, at 3:23 AM, Kenny Kwok <kenny.lacity@gmail.com> wrote:


That is the minimum size I can accept. No smaller than that.

发自我的 iPhone

在 2011-6-13,18:14,Chris McCreary <singernak@gmail.com> 写道:


Will 12.75 work?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 13, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Kenny Kwok <kenny.lacity@gmail.com> wrote:


That is a satin SW, only one thin maple ring. I do not mind whatever ringwork it has as long as it is a good condition STRAIGHT SW shaft with 12.8-13mm ferrule size.


On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Chris McCreary <singernak@gmail.com> wrote:

I just got back to Vegas from picking my son up, I will make a few phone calls now that I am home.


What shaft size did you want again? What's the ringworm on that cue?


Chris

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 12, 2011, at 12:03 AM, Kenny Kwok <kenny.lacity@gmail.com> wrote:


Two weeks past since your last email and you still have not given me a solution. I am going to post the whole story on AZ if you give me an answer in 24hrs.


2011/6/6 Kenny Kwok <kenny.lacity@gmail.com>

any news?



On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Chris McCreary <singernak@gmail.com> wrote:

I will see what I can do when I get back from picking my son up, he lives 1400 miles away from me.


I should know something by Friday


Chris

Sent from my iPhone

On May 29, 2011, at 6:48 PM, Kenny Kwok <kenny.lacity@gmail.com> wrote:


I want 13mm shaft which must be straight. I will wait for another 3 days.

发自我的 iPhone

在 2011-5-30,2:24,Chris McCreary <singernak@gmail.com> 写道:


I already offered the resolution that I think is fair. I know several people here with shafts for southwest, what size of shaft would you like, and I will ask around?


Let me know.


Chris

Sent from my iPhone

On May 29, 2011, at 6:12 AM, Kenny Kwok <kenny.lacity@gmail.com> wrote:


If you are not going to solve the problem, I will post the whole story on az tomorrow.


2011/5/26 Kenny Kwok <kenny.lacity@gmail.com>

I would not consider to buy the cue if I knew the shafts are like that, even the price much less. SW charge a new shaft for $300, that does not even include shipping cost. Most important, the new shaft will not be a Franklin shaft. What I supposed to have here is a Franklin SW with 2 full shafts. I bought the cue based on your description. I will not accept $150 compromise. $300 is minimum amount I would accept.



On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Chris McCreary <singernak@gmail.com> wrote:

I offered a $100 dollar compromise and I feel that is more than fair.

I'll tell you what, I will split the difference with you and offer $150 towards a new shaft.


Chris

Sent from my iPhone


On May 25, 2011, at 9:18 PM, Kenny Kwok <kenny.lacity@gmail.com> wrote:

> If you are not going to do anything on this matter, I will just post the whole story on az.
>
> 发自我的 iPhone
>
> 在 2011-5-24,13:18,Chris McCreary <singernak@gmail.com> 写道:
>
>> I was going by what my friend said the sizes of the shafts were.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 23, 2011, at 9:55 PM, Kenny Kwok <kenny.lacity@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Your "slight roll" means warped....why didn't you just say that it's warped. How about the shaft size?
>>>
>>> 发自我的 iPhone
>>>
>>> 在 2011-5-24,11:54,Chris McCreary <singernak@gmail.com> 写道:
>>>
>>>> That's not going to happen, I am not prepared to give you a 100% refund as you knew what you were buying.
>>>>
>>>> I said in the listing, the cue comes with 2 Shafts, and one has a roll!
>>>>
>>>> You know if a shaft has a roll then it is "WARPED"!!
>>>>
>>>> Quit acting stupid.
>>>>
>>>> I will offer you $100 as a compromise.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On May 23, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Kenny Kwok <kenny.lacity@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You have been selling a lot of stuff on az and you do not know how to measure a ferrule size.....a little boy knows how to measure a ferrule size, no need to be a cue expert... How you came up with 12.75mm and 13mm? That was wrong information. You did not state that one shaft is warped. It was stated it has a slight roll, big difference.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is not the cue as described and I want to get a full refund and I would send the cue back to you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kenny
>>>>>
>>>>> 发自我的 iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> 在 2011-5-24,3:52,Chris McCreary <singernak@gmail.com> 写道:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I said the cue had a warped shaft, the other shaft was straight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as the ferrules I am no cue expert, this cue belonged to a friend of mine here in Vegas, and he bought it from Jerry Himself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know how to measure the ferrules at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure what you want to do, just let me know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 23, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Kenny Kwok <kenny.lacity@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The cue has arrived but it is not as described. The ferrules' sizes are way off from your description. They are actually 12.3mm and 12.4mm but in the description they were stated 12.75mm and 13mm. Also one shaft is warped and the other is not so straight.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me know what you can do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Awaiting your reply,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kenny
>>>>>>> 发自我的 iPhone
 
Be honest the 3mm is big difference on SW shafts. As I said before, "escrow" service will be fine to solve all the problem.....
Maybe 147 pay the escrow fees and chris pay the shipping then "done".
 
Be honest the 3mm is big difference on SW shafts. As I said before, "escrow" service will be fine to solve all the problem.....
Maybe 147 pay the escrow fees and chris pay the shipping then "done".

Someone has already offered free escrow service but seller still did not agree to use escrow.:confused::confused::confused:
 
So do we like the cloth!?:grin:

I have no dog in this fight, but I don't think it is reasonable to ask for an extra shaft without returning the one that caused the issue. There are punitive damages...

And I don't mean to imply Chris McCreary <singernak@gmail.com is without fault. WHat a dick!
 
Calm down...jeeziz.

Please re-read my post.

I said the other dude was out of line for what he wanted.

Your early reply telling him to not be stupid? That was why I said you were a dick.

It is an unfortunate situation for you both. enjoy each other.

singernak said:
You ****ing Fag, how the **** do you think you can't call me names, you obviously can't read i have tried to make this right, so if your going to post, you can take his side, just don't call me names.

Or you can come to VEGAS and call me a DICK to my face, and see how that goes over ****head!
 
Situation Remedied

Chris how can you tell me to split the cost of repair the reason the cue was bought was i bought it at a fair price in fact it was a few more dollars than i wanted to spend however in speaking with you i did come up a couple of dollars. For the few dollars it will cost for the repair why wouldn't you do the right thing and take care of it. Chris do the right thing here you know that selling someone something then telling them to spend money to fix said item isn't and never will be right in any sales transaction... I hope that you see this for what it is and consider it a cost of doing business as a business owner myself i can't count the times that i have eaten $$$ to make the customer happy....i look forward to you doing the right thing and my be able to change my thoughts and itrader rating for you......jeff

I have PAID for the repair to Jeff via Paypal, and i am sorry about all the confusion. I will not be selling cues for friends in the future..

Chris
 
Calm down...jeeziz.

Please re-read my post.

I said the other dude was out of line for what he wanted.

Your early reply telling him to not be stupid? That was why I said you were a dick.

It is an unfortunate situation for you both. enjoy each other.



I apologize for my previous comment.

Chris
 
I apologize for my previous comment.

Chris
Thanks for making that public- 100% accepted.

I understand this had been really stressful for everybody directly involved in the transaction...except the friend you sold it for. I hope you have some recourse there.

Hope this works out for you and Chris.
 
BUMP it up to the TOP for Takini still have about 20 Beds of Tournament Green, and Tournament Blue..

:) :) :)
 
I offered you a partial refund via PAYPAL so that you can get the pin fixed. I think $300 is more than fair and that it shouldn't cost any more than that.

Knowing the situation, i will lose $1575 of my own money since the original cue owner is nowhere to be found.


Do you think thats fair?

Chris

Whats the guys name? Maybe we can help?
 
Ok Here is my review of the cloth. I ordered one cut of tournament green to give it a test in my local pool room. I covered one table using the glue method and got a stretch index of 4 1/8 inches. I stretched it to 3 3/4 inches. All of the other 18 GC's are wrapped in Simonis 860 green.

A side by side comparison.

The Takini cloth is a little brighter green than the standard green of Simonis. It really looks good. The cloth is a little thinner than Simonis 860 but looks very very similar in the way its made. It does stretch quite a bit more than Simonis. It installs the same as any other worsted wool cloth.

Wear and life: Don't know yet, only time will tell and I did install this cloth on the most used table in the place. I will provide feedback later on this issue.

The feel of the cloth once installed:
To me, it feels more like Simonis 760 blend. The speed to me feels faster than 860 and not quite as fast as the 760, similar to the speed of 860hr I I guess, which is what I have on my personal table. I played for 6 hours on the table yesterday and I must say that I like it. Several of the other locals played on it and commented on the table but most everyone was happy that they got fresh cloth to play on.

I will post pics up when I get a chance.

This review is of my personal experience with this cloth. I am not promoting this product or saying its better or worst than comparable companies. As of this moment I do like the cloth, who knows what I will think of it in 6 months.
 
Thanks Travis I have 2 more beds coming your way tomorrow pending payment is made.

Glad you like it, we need to do the whole room now.. :) :)
 
pics of the cloth installed

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picture of Simonis installed

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PM Sent

Chris,

Please send me a PM letting me know if this was sent out today...thanks.

Jason
 
Getting low on the cloth, we have a tradeshow coming up next week and the plan is to sell out of the cloth, so if you interested in some cloth at a great price, get i before it is gone.

We will be ordering more, it just takes awhile as it ships from Korea.

Chris
 
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