TAR 29 Commentary

I would just like to say to Justin and the commentators are getting so much feedback imo because everyone realizes that TAR is now the Facebook of streaming.

Everyone has picked one site to really get on board with and support and chat from and since TAR is going to be everyone's home they want to make sure it's as good as it can be.

I think all of the feedback, negative and positive is a huge buzz and a huge compliment.
 
Earl is a terrible idea! wow


I actually enjoy Justin's commentary too, especially when he has one other knowledgeable person in there with him.
 
The bickering at the end was a little much but I still enjoyed it and will buy the next one. Having a top notch player in the booth is the ticket though. I want to hear from someone who's been it that environment as a player.
 
Masirib5 said:
Much easier to do commentary after the fact. A little easier to predict what has happened! Ha!
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Yeah but my only reason for doing it after is because I didn't have a mixer to separate the audio from video and didn't want it hard-coded. Trust me ... doing it real time isn't a problem for me. :) I've done one commentated match live and got emails from two people praising it. I stay on topic and read the layouts as well as psychological factors very well. Aside from Mark Wilson I haven't heard anyone whom I'd classify as superior to me. MW really does lead the pack. He sees intention better than 99%... though, JJ (Jeremy) is excellent. Even when I used to commentate sitting next to schmidt he was shocked at how often I made correct calls. You'll see. :)
 
I couldn't watch this stream, but I have muted when commentery was horrid. Sometimes no commentary at all is good. If you must have Ken in there, my advice for Ken is to speak 80 percent less. Justin you are good in the booth, Beav, Fred Agnir, Joey A, JJ, and obviously Bill and Danny.

Commentary is about adding something good to the experience of watching. TAR you are doing a great job. I will buy in the future.
 
Justin needs to be the man in charge, running the behind the scenes stuff. Its his business, he can't be handling the commentating. Plus, IMO, Justin is not a good commentator. He doesn't know the game like the other guys, and he likes to talk like one of us when he's in the booth. I remember when he was in the the booth before they had regular commentators, and it was like he was one of the boys at the pool hall shooting the sh!t, instead of talking about the match. He self admittedly said many times he's not even going to attempt to commentate on the game situation, especially the one pocket games.

I'm not busting on the guy. In fact, I think he is super smart for stepping out of the booth and letting dedicated guys run it. When you are the boss, you have to surround yourself with the best people you can, in all aspects of the company. Even if they are better/smarter/funnier/whatever than you. And you put them where they are most useful. Thats one way to help your business be successful (although it certainly does not guarantee it will be...)

That's one difference between Justin and Mark. I believe Justin realizes his limitations, whereas Mark thinks he's great at everything. I'd bet anything the reason Justin explicitly asked us to post the feedback (even though we ALL gave him an earful on the chat), was so Mark could read it and see for himself.

Now, if Mark reads all this, and continues to insist on being a commentator, well then he better take the advice given here to heart. But better still would be for Mark to recognize he is just not cut out for a commentator, and do other things instead, such as the vision for his companies.
 
I watched all three days and the commentary on the last day drove me crazy. About half way I finally hit the mute and enjoyed the rest of the stream. I did miss hearing the balls and the background noise but was much less tense listening to constant arguing.

Personally I think Ken by himself would work much better, there is usually a number of people who come to the studio who also could help out by adding pool stories and such.

I like Mark but I just don't think he is cut out for commentating, I know I couldn't do it well either.
 
TrumanHW said:
Yeah but my only reason for doing it after is because I didn't have a mixer to separate the audio from video and didn't want it hard-coded. Trust me ... doing it real time isn't a problem for me. :) I've done one commentated match live and got emails from two people praising it. I stay on topic and read the layouts as well as psychological factors very well. Aside from Mark Wilson I haven't heard anyone whom I'd classify as superior to me. MW really does lead the pack. He sees intention better than 99%... though, JJ (Jeremy) is excellent. Even when I used to commentate sitting next to schmidt he was shocked at how often I made correct calls. You'll see. :)
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I have said forever that Mark Wilson is absolutely one of the best commentators. I love him and Billy I together.

There is no better combination than that, IMO.
 
iusedtoberich;3732738 That's one difference between Justin and Mark. I believe Justin realizes his limitations said:
Well, that may have been the intention (who knows?); however, I would not have stated it as such, publicly.
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I hate to bad-mouth the commentary, because Ken seems like a good guy. But, I too watched much of the match on mute. I kept thinking ...does this guy even play? If a pro player is in the booth, many of us might learn something..strategy, speed,attitude, etc. Way too much talking. Way too much.
I also like Mark Wilson and Billy. Kinda miss Grady, too.
 
JDB said:
I have said forever that Mark Wilson is absolutely one of the best commentators. I love him and Billy I together.

There is no better combination than that, IMO.
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That is very true. Mark W. and Billy are top notch. Danny is good too- quite funny
 
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I am not a MW fan. For some reason he rubs me the wrong way, kind of like Jim Wyche. We all know that the all-time greatest combo is BI and DD. It was a real treat to hear them together on the Accu-stats MIH tourney recently.

The idea of using technology to allow the commentators to be remote could be a good one if it works.
 
I truly believe Danny and Billy are the best. They were both GREAT players. What makes them great together is Danny brings a more offensive point of view and Billy brings more of a defensive and play the percentages point of view. The other reason is because they are 2 people especially Danny(seeing how Billy took significant breaks throughout his career) that dedicated 50 + years to a game with not alot of rewards financially and who is unable to make any money actually playing the game anymore. At this point I would rather see Danny get a little money than some top Pro who has constant chances to earn money(what little it is) actually playing still. Its kinda like Grady Mathews, get all you can from him now because it will leave a void and you will miss them when they are gone.
The problem with picking a current top player to do commentary is it usually turns into the guy in the booth puffing out his chest letting everyone know how great he is. You need it to be a top player with great all around knowledge, well spoken, modest to a point but at the same time being able to call out a players poor shot selection or execution without favoritism. The guy who fits the bill in my opinion is Jeremy Jones.
 
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I know from experience that the booths comments can be compromised alot by a bad view of the table. This happens alot imo. It's like having a bad seat and you're just guessing !

Btw I remember hearing Jeremy Jones commentary in the Galveston event a few years back and he was very very good indeed !
 
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