Lou
Guys find it particularly difficult to discuss their own feelings honestly, especially when its sprinkled with any kind of fear. We all experience it, we were all trained not to admit it, it was refreshing to read you "admit" it.
Kevin
The Ballad of John and Lou, Part One
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Lou
Guys find it particularly difficult to discuss their own feelings honestly, especially when its sprinkled with any kind of fear. We all experience it, we were all trained not to admit it, it was refreshing to read you "admit" it.
Kevin
On top of everything I said in the quote...I also came off with the impression that John's claims of the greatness of the CTE aiming system was damaged by his inability to pocket some shots that were clearly makeable balls, and this happened a LOT more than it should have.
That said....maybe John is not a good representative of CTE...but by his own mouth, he spoke of it as if were some type of magical revelation in past postings (not quoting him)...and I personally did not find his pocketing ability to be very impressive.
I'm not trying to stir up the pot (or get John to go off on a rant). I had no dog in this fight...and it simply made no difference to me who came out the victor in this match. I'm just commenting on what I saw and what I am reading.
Maniac
Really, no matter how precisely you can aim, or how well trained you are, when you're excessively nervous your body just doesn't work properly. John was making a number of involuntary nervous moves that hindered his ability to delivery the cue as he wanted. Even non-pool players can learn to aim very well, as evidenced by players who become experts at Virtual Pool or other game simulations. Delivering the cue is the second part of the equation.
There were many reasons why the pressure on this match exceeded the 10K bet. The potential for public humiliation, knowing you are on display to the world, trying to justify your beliefs, all of this ended up being more pressure than an amateur could endure. Any amateur I would like to add.
Players like Shane face this stuff all of the time and have a much higher meltdown threshold. I've seen Bustamante crack, Archer, and Efren. These players are the most pressure proof in the world - but everybody has a melting point.
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If JB was impressing you ,, you obviously impress easily ,,,here's a news flash. It's not a sell out if you know the guy can't string balls together and Lou has 10k proving that point
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Don't you remember one of the cte selling points? It's that you've got something solid to fall back on under pressure situations like this.
Perception
The funny thing is if the Pro One poster boy would have won then all the CTE followers perceptions would have changed. They would be all over the board saying how great it is, and that is why he won.
The funny thing is if the Pro One poster boy would have won then all the CTE followers perceptions would have changed. They would be all over the board saying how great it is, and that is why he won.
Dave,
Not very accurate from my point of view. It looked to me like Lou got into a passive funk where he kept on playing overall conservative waiting for JB fall on his sword (what precisely happened for first 2/3 rd's of match). The score could have been 9-3 or 9-4. A lot of the shots that worked out for JB were hit way to strong and could have easily come up table for an instant loss. Then when Lou needed to come with the kill it was and fatigue and pressure probably played into his weaker performance. I don't think you think he played poorly early on day 1 or out of the box day 2?
The facts of the matter are that despite what you think of Lou (and what I think of JB). JB leveraged too much on "the system". His mouth ran wild. If he spent half that energy on his mechanics/fundamentals he might be able to delivery the mail. Instead he got his nuts shot off.
Nick
No, he has a Percentage of 10k
Right and in fact the use of it did help me in this match with some bog shots.
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I don't know anything about CTE but I think we can all saw that it was JB's terrible stroke and not an aiming system that lost him the match.
strwam question for JB
JB,They kept saying on the stream that you paid to have them stream the match. Do you mind letting us know much does something like that cost? Also at the beginning they said something about you wearing a JB cases hat and they guessed they couldn't do anything about that. Did you also have a deal you couldn't advertise your brand on their stream? I didn't see a JB banner hanging in the arena that i can remember. I just thought it strange a guy paying for the stream wasn't allowed to advertise?
JB,They kept saying on the stream that you paid to have them stream the match. Do you mind letting us know much does something like that cost? Also at the beginning they said something about you wearing a JB cases hat and they guessed they couldn't do anything about that. Did you also have a deal you couldn't advertise your brand on their stream? I didn't see a JB banner hanging in the arena that i can remember. I just thought it strange a guy paying for the stream wasn't allowed to advertise?
I paid for the stream. I was not restricted in any way from advertising. I guess I should watch the match.
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I think it would be unwise (and potentially costly) to judge someone's playing ability based solely on one match. Particularly that of an amateur.
The pros are used to big time heat, experiencing it over and over until they're used to it to one degree or another. They're subject to a more narrow range or performances.
Not so for amateurs who are likely to experience a wide range in performance, especially when they are rarely exposed to a considerable increase in PSIs.
No one should say that what they saw during our match is truly representative of John's play. I can guarantee you it was not representative of mine ;-)
Lou Figueroa
oh yes, and just one more thing. I think everyone knows I've had Spider on Ignore for a couple of years, but I did see you quoting him, Nick, and one part of his post kinda jumped out at me: "...however bad John looked, you looked at least that bad."
I don't know. I don't think we look the same at all
Lou Figueroa
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