The Encyclopedia of Pool Hustlers

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Freddy Bentivegna
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Excerpt from the book and one part of the Hubert Cokes profile.

Hubert Daddy Warbucks Cokes
Evansville, IN

He stood six foot three, long and lean. He may have been the toughest son-of-a-***** alive for the first 50 years of the twentieth century. Minnesota Fats claimed Hubert "*****-slapped" Baby-Face Nelson. I knew Hubert well, and I certainly wouldn't bet against Fatty’s claim. It was rumored that Hubert's hustling crew, which included "Titanic" Thompson, were the guys that had whacked New York mobster, Arnold Rothstein (the man who fixed the 1919 World Series), when he refused to pay his poker debt to them. Keep in mind that "Lucky" Luciano, Vito Genovese, and Meyer Lansky, among others, were working for Rothstein at the time. That knowledge intimidated those country boys not a bit. I guess they figured that the most dangerous guys in New York were they themselves. Hubert had supposedly, already had a gun battle with the sheriff of Hot Springs, AR over a woman. Allegedly, they both drew their weapons, Hubert shot and killed the sheriff, and had to flee the state. He did marry the girl and conceived a son, Ellis Cokes who still lives in Hot Springs.
When the IRS raided the Johnston City All-Around Tournament in the early 70s, the agents frisked Hubert and were awestruck to discover he had three pistols on his person: one in an ankle holster, one in his back pocket, and one spring-action derringer strapped to his wrist. His explanation to the federal boys was that he carried a lot of cash and had a few enemies. He was in his seventies at the time!
Once, while playing in Bensingers Billiard Academy in downtown Chicago, a sweator stuck his nose in Hubert's game and gave a decision that Hubert didn’t like. Cokes hung the sweator by his overcoat collar on the wall coat hanger, and left him there for the remainder of the session. He instructed the rest of the room that if anyone took the guy down, they would take his place.
Tough as he was, he had a soft spot for pool players. He was an easy bite, and put plenty of pool players in action by staking them to play.
He played pretty good, too. I watched him in Johnston City play weak players 8 or-no-count* One-pocket.


Beard
 
Slapped Pretty Boy Floyd--killed Rothstein---hmmm if ya knew the gent, bet he was as good as there was--if not he was a stone cold killer--yep he probably was a great player
 
Sir Beard

I liked your post a lot. You and I have become email buds and you've been marketing my books right along. But, should we ever meet in person, I will trust you with the details on the Rothstein situation that nobody knows about. Ti took me into his confidence like I was his son.
Interestingly enough, I was such a young punk when we traveled together that I didn't even realize I was in the company of a part of American history.
He and Brett Maverick were the only characters I ever knew who carried thousand dollar bills.
Keep it nice. Alfie
 
I liked your post a lot. You and I have become email buds and you've been marketing my books right along. But, should we ever meet in person, I will trust you with the details on the Rothstein situation that nobody knows about. Ti took me into his confidence like I was his son.
Interestingly enough, I was such a young punk when we traveled together that I didn't even realize I was in the company of a part of American history.
He and Brett Maverick were the only characters I ever knew who carried thousand dollar bills.
Keep it nice. Alfie

Joe Burns also carried thousand dollar bills, usually about ten or twelve of them. He gave me one the year before he died. He was like a dad to me as well, always looking out for me in Dayton when I was a kid.

P.S. Freddie is right about Cokes. He was an intimidating figure, even in his 70's. I saw him play Ronnie Allen in Johnston City, one handed jacked up One Pocket for 200 a game (in '64 or '65). Ronnie was in his late 20's and Hubert was close to 70 at the time. They played all night and Ronnie may have won three or four games. The old man held his own with Ronnie at this super tough game. Even Fats was careful what he said around Cokes, but I think Hubert liked him. They must have made money together. :wink:

Keep it nice!
 
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The greatest pool hustlers will never be recognized for their talents. Nobody knows their real name or what they truely look like where they're from. They walk into a room with 5 dollars and leave with a hundred and no one notices. The art of invisibility. My hat off to the Clark Kent's of the pool world...
 
I liked your post a lot. You and I have become email buds and you've been marketing my books right along. But, should we ever meet in person, I will trust you with the details on the Rothstein situation that nobody knows about. Ti took me into his confidence like I was his son.
Interestingly enough, I was such a young punk when we traveled together that I didn't even realize I was in the company of a part of American history.
He and Brett Maverick were the only characters I ever knew who carried thousand dollar bills.
Keep it nice. Alfie

Love to hear that story. I know Hubert's son, Ellis Cokes, he said they had a pistol range in his dad's (Huberts) basement. He said Hubert and Ti would practice shooting like Navy SEALs -- on the move flying through the air, left handed, both handed, prone and off of their forearm.

Beard
 
I liked your post a lot. You and I have become email buds and you've been marketing my books right along. But, should we ever meet in person, I will trust you with the details on the Rothstein situation that nobody knows about. Ti took me into his confidence like I was his son.
Interestingly enough, I was such a young punk when we traveled together that I didn't even realize I was in the company of a part of American history.
He and Brett Maverick were the only characters I ever knew who carried thousand dollar bills.
Keep it nice. Alfie

Do you have any idea where the manuscript might be for the book about Ti called The Hawk among the Pigeons? When I was on the road with Robert LeBlanc, we read part of that script when we stayed at George McGanns house in Big Springs TX.

I heard many stories from Ti while hanging out at the Cotton Bowl Palace, not to mention betting with him on some propistion bets :)
 
Nice excerpt on two of my favorite hustlers to read about, Titanic Thompson and Daddy Warbucks. When's the book coming out, Freddie? PM me when ready and save me a signed copy! Thanks!!
:p
 
Nice excerpt on two of my favorite hustlers to read about, Titanic Thompson and Daddy Warbucks. When's the book coming out, Freddie? PM me when ready and save me a signed copy! Thanks!!
:p

I am 90% done with it, but edits, reedits, and edits for publication take time. I am guessing 2 more months for low.

Beard
 
Excerpt from the book and one part of the Hubert Cokes profile.

Hubert Daddy Warbucks Cokes
Evansville, IN

He stood six foot three, long and lean. He may have been the toughest son-of-a-***** alive for the first 50 years of the twentieth century. Minnesota Fats claimed Hubert "*****-slapped" Baby-Face Nelson. I knew Hubert well, and I certainly wouldn't bet against Fatty’s claim. It was rumored that Hubert's hustling crew, which included "Titanic" Thompson, were the guys that had whacked New York mobster, Arnold Rothstein (the man who fixed the 1919 World Series), when he refused to pay his poker debt to them. Keep in mind that "Lucky" Luciano, Vito Genovese, and Meyer Lansky, among others, were working for Rothstein at the time. That knowledge intimidated those country boys not a bit. I guess they figured that the most dangerous guys in New York were they themselves. Hubert had supposedly, already had a gun battle with the sheriff of Hot Springs, AR over a woman. Allegedly, they both drew their weapons, Hubert shot and killed the sheriff, and had to flee the state. He did marry the girl and conceived a son, Ellis Cokes who still lives in Hot Springs.
When the IRS raided the Johnston City All-Around Tournament in the early 70s, the agents frisked Hubert and were awestruck to discover he had three pistols on his person: one in an ankle holster, one in his back pocket, and one spring-action derringer strapped to his wrist. His explanation to the federal boys was that he carried a lot of cash and had a few enemies. He was in his seventies at the time!
Once, while playing in Bensingers Billiard Academy in downtown Chicago, a sweator stuck his nose in Hubert's game and gave a decision that Hubert didn’t like. Cokes hung the sweator by his overcoat collar on the wall coat hanger, and left him there for the remainder of the session. He instructed the rest of the room that if anyone took the guy down, they would take his place.
Tough as he was, he had a soft spot for pool players. He was an easy bite, and put plenty of pool players in action by staking them to play.
He played pretty good, too. I watched him in Johnston City play weak players 8 or-no-count* One-pocket.


Beard

Checked your website and didn't see any promo for the book. Would you "tease" us with the names of all (most) of the players to be featured in the book?

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Joe Burns also carried thousand dollar bills, usually about ten or twelve of them. He gave me one the year before he died. He was like a dad to me as well, always looking out for me in Dayton when I was a kid.

P.S. Freddie is right about Cokes. He was an intimidating figure, even in his 70's. I saw him play Ronnie Allen in Johnston City, one handed jacked up One Pocket for 200 a game (in '64 or '65). Ronnie was in his late 20's and Hubert was close to 70 at the time. They played all night and Ronnie may have won three or four games. The old man held his own with Ronnie at this super tough game. Even Fats was careful what he said around Cokes, but I think Hubert liked him. They must have made money together. :wink:

Keep it nice!


I know you didn't forget about the $500 bills he carried also.
 
I know you didn't forget about the $500 bills he carried also.


You mean the small stuff! :wink:
Besides being the best Bank Pool player in Dayton, Joe was also a well known safe cracker. Just call it his 'night' job. :rolleyes:
 
I recently read a book that featured Fred Whalen I had no idea about his lifestyle and that of his son. The only thing I knew of Fred Whalen was the tournament named after him I didn't know of his ties outfit guys.
 
I recently read a book that featured Fred Whalen I had no idea about his lifestyle and that of his son. The only thing I knew of Fred Whalen was the tournament named after him I didn't know of his ties outfit guys.


I knew Freddie too. He gave me my first job ref'ing at one of his tournaments (1971 I think). $5 a match to ref Straight Pool! He funded these events himself, he loved pool that much. Fred was a very good Straight Pool player, many times California State champ. His son Jack was the toughest guy in L.A., but he refused to play ball with the mob. They shot him in a phone booth!

Fred made his first millions running the casino boats off the coast of California in the 20's and 30's. Six miles out and everything was legal!
 
I knew Freddie too. He gave me my first job ref'ing at one of his tournaments (1971 I think). $5 a match to ref Straight Pool! He funded these events himself, he loved pool that much. Fred was a very good Straight Pool player, many times California State champ. His son Jack was the toughest guy in L.A., but he refused to play ball with the mob. They shot him in a phone booth!

Fred made his first millions running the casino boats off the coast of California in the 20's and 30's. Six miles out and everything was legal!
A book that the Whalen's were in is the "Gangster Squad"; it was also made in to a movie with Sean Penn. Sounded like Freddie was quite the hustler.

In the book Jack was shot in a restaurant, but Jay knows stuff so I might believe his account.

http://www.huntingtonnews.net/41035
 
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Checked your website and didn't see any promo for the book. Would you "tease" us with the names of all (most) of the players to be featured in the book?

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I will give you the A's and B's.

Aguzatate, Antonio Montalvo Morales, Albany Ball Company, Alf Taylor, Allen Hopkins, Archie the Greek Karas, Artie Bodendorfer, Babyface, Alton Whitlow, Benny the Goose Conway, Bensingers Billiard Academy, aka, the Dungeon, Berle Gabbard, Big Henry “Duke” Baker, Chicago Billiard Café, Billy Mr. 3 Cushion Smith, Black Bart, Virginia Bob Ogburn, Bobby Strauss, Boston Shorty, Larry Johnson, Billy Cardone Incardona, Brooklyn Butch Frank Frugone, Brooklyn Jimmy Cassas,Brooklyn Pancho, Vince Carelli, Vince Furio, nee Harvey Strauss,Santa Ana Rose, Judy the Pancho clone, Bucktooth, Richard Cook, Buddy Dennis, Baltimore Buddy, Buddy Cecil Hall, Bugs, Leonard Rucker, Bunny Rogoff, Bernard, Bunny the Rogue, Burlington Iowa tournament, Buttermilk, Sterling Ward.

Beard
 
That's just the A' and B's? Where do I buy the book?

I will give you the A's and B's.

Aguzatate, Antonio Montalvo Morales, Albany Ball Company, Alf Taylor, Allen Hopkins, Archie the Greek Karas, Artie Bodendorfer, Babyface, Alton Whitlow, Benny the Goose Conway, Bensingers Billiard Academy, aka, the Dungeon, Berle Gabbard, Big Henry “Duke” Baker, Chicago Billiard Café, Billy Mr. 3 Cushion Smith, Black Bart, Virginia Bob Ogburn, Bobby Strauss, Boston Shorty, Larry Johnson, Billy Cardone Incardona, Brooklyn Butch Frank Frugone, Brooklyn Jimmy Cassas,Brooklyn Pancho, Vince Carelli, Vince Furio, nee Harvey Strauss,Santa Ana Rose, Judy the Pancho clone, Bucktooth, Richard Cook, Buddy Dennis, Baltimore Buddy, Buddy Cecil Hall, Bugs, Leonard Rucker, Bunny Rogoff, Bernard, Bunny the Rogue, Burlington Iowa tournament, Buttermilk, Sterling Ward.

Beard
 
I will give you the A's and B's.

Aguzatate, Antonio Montalvo Morales, Albany Ball Company, Alf Taylor, Allen Hopkins, Archie the Greek Karas, Artie Bodendorfer, Babyface, Alton Whitlow, Benny the Goose Conway, Bensingers Billiard Academy, aka, the Dungeon, Berle Gabbard, Big Henry “Duke” Baker, Chicago Billiard Café, Billy Mr. 3 Cushion Smith, Black Bart, Virginia Bob Ogburn, Bobby Strauss, Boston Shorty, Larry Johnson, Billy Cardone Incardona, Brooklyn Butch Frank Frugone, Brooklyn Jimmy Cassas,Brooklyn Pancho, Vince Carelli, Vince Furio, nee Harvey Strauss,Santa Ana Rose, Judy the Pancho clone, Bucktooth, Richard Cook, Buddy Dennis, Baltimore Buddy, Buddy Cecil Hall, Bugs, Leonard Rucker, Bunny Rogoff, Bernard, Bunny the Rogue, Burlington Iowa tournament, Buttermilk, Sterling Ward.

Beard

WOW!!! Super comprehensive. This will be a must have! Do I assume correctly that Vern Elliott will be in the "E" section??? (-:

He showed me how to shoot the Impossible Bank Shot. Did it on the 3rd try!!!

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WOW!!! Super comprehensive. This will be a must have! Do I assume correctly that Vern Elliott will be in the "E" section??? (-:

He showed me how to shoot the Impossible Bank Shot. Did it on the 3rd try!!!

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Actually, he is listed under V. I am listing them by nickname or first name.

Beard
 
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