The greatest 9 ball player ever.
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45 seconds later, 10 guys walk out of the room with 10,000 bucks each.
The greatest 9ball player ever is probably unknown...
Actually he played the, what was it, 2011 14.1 World championships? Did really good for an ole banger that hasn't played as a regular pro in many years
Ray Martin did pretty good as well, beating Ortmann before losing to Sigel etc...
These matches were done by Inside Pool and were on youtube, not sure if they still are. They were great to watch.
Sigel in his prime would have NO problem playing with anyone today at 14.1... Heck he can play with them in his 60s.
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MalibuMike
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I would have to say "Mexican" Ron Rosas played the game at its highest level.
For anyone who saw this little known player in the late 70's through the early 90's nobody played like Ron, NOBODY. See his youtube video where he beats Buddy Hall 11 to 3. On Accu-stats he was ranked #1 at Kicks and #2 in runouts after a good break agianst a playing field of Efren, Kieth McCready, Nick Varner, Mike Sigel, Danny Madina, Buddy Hall, Lou Butera, earl Strickland the list goes on. I know he is not well known any many people on here sadly have never heard of him, his peak was brief but spectacular, ask anyone who saw him in his prime! Though Ron sucumbed to substance abuse I have talked with many pro's and peole who saw him shoot in his prime and he simply did things with the cue-ball no one has done since. A native of Los Angeles he never really toured. But if you look at LA tournaments during that era, Ron was always at the tiop of the list. His ability to get draw with almost NO follow through is still amazing to watch as are his kill shots where the cue ball seems to have brakes! Many will scoff at this post but for those of us 50 somethings that were lucky enough to see him at his best, he was by far the most exsiting player to watch of ANY Time! IMHO.
A quote that fits him best is:
"A Moment of Brillence and a Lifetime of Dispair"
Mike
For anyone who saw this little known player in the late 70's through the early 90's nobody played like Ron, NOBODY. See his youtube video where he beats Buddy Hall 11 to 3. On Accu-stats he was ranked #1 at Kicks and #2 in runouts after a good break agianst a playing field of Efren, Kieth McCready, Nick Varner, Mike Sigel, Danny Madina, Buddy Hall, Lou Butera, earl Strickland the list goes on. I know he is not well known any many people on here sadly have never heard of him, his peak was brief but spectacular, ask anyone who saw him in his prime! Though Ron sucumbed to substance abuse I have talked with many pro's and peole who saw him shoot in his prime and he simply did things with the cue-ball no one has done since. A native of Los Angeles he never really toured. But if you look at LA tournaments during that era, Ron was always at the tiop of the list. His ability to get draw with almost NO follow through is still amazing to watch as are his kill shots where the cue ball seems to have brakes! Many will scoff at this post but for those of us 50 somethings that were lucky enough to see him at his best, he was by far the most exsiting player to watch of ANY Time! IMHO.
A quote that fits him best is:
"A Moment of Brillence and a Lifetime of Dispair"
Mike
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Do you know or recognize Jerry Brundstetter in the pic, the guy holdin' the beer? He's still around I guess, he's from So. Ca.
Long Beach Bill remembers. We avoided each other like the plague, in a good way. We were both a ''good'' ball underneath Ether at that time, and could beat Hawaiian Brian on his bad day and our good day, so ta speak. But his play style was very unique and intimidating at times, and I can hear the Rosa's ''tone'' of his voice since I'd been around em allot back then, and his good nature.
Do you know or recognize Jerry Brundstetter in the pic, the guy holdin' the beer? He's still around I guess, he's from So. Ca.
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If Buddy Hall had Billy Johnson's break.....
....in Buddy's prime....
...the world would've needed one MORE ball....
I'm talking' long money sessions, where, as Billy I would say...solid beats spectacular.
Buddy could lose tournament matches where some great player would go to the well....
.......for a brief time....
...but Buddy would make less mistakes in the long haul.
I think all those guys had a few years of greatness. Reyes is the newest and latest so everyone says him, and they aren't necessarily wrong, the man played to win. Earl had the best stroke of them all, I doubt anyone can argue that, and I'll even go as far as saying he was better than all of them in talent, just not in the head. Lassiter s considered the purest shot maker of them all. Hall had a beast stroke as well, straight as an arrow. Siegel was unbeatable for a while, crazy talented as well. Willis was well known to be Lassiter traveling partner and the two are considers the best one two punch in pool hustling history. But when it comes to money games, any pinoy, busty, Reyes, parica, orcollo, they all lived and fed their families off money games. So busty was no pushover, he's the original pinoy to come stateside, and no doubt cause he could play. He just doesn't have the tourney accolades those guys accumulated over the years, so he's not mentioned as often.
Busty? You sure you not thinking about Parica?
The difference between some of these listed is they just did not have to depend on their nine ball game. Ie: Sigel, Reyes, Lassiter... That is the kind of player to be.
Jay has a point about Jose being the best but for reasons different then mine. Jose is/was an unemotional player. Low center of gravity uses no drugs or alcohol, doesn't smoke and loves to play. He has always been like a little kid and he cannot be worn out. I know him well and believe his knowledge base and active skills are hard to wear down. Physically unassuming, Jose will just play you into the ground. Has anybody seen him lately. I have tried to call him but his old ph number is not in service?
Hall of Famers don't answer phones...and it's hard to find a good secretary.
A great player who can shove his chips.
Hall of Famers don't answer phones...and it's hard to find a good secretary.
A great player who can shove his chips.
I always chuckle when I think about the time I saw Efren Reyes send a text message.
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That was in Vegas iirc. I saw John going to Jose asking for another match at the Riviera .
I couldn't believe the spot as well when Jose was talking to a friend of his.
And that was the year after Jose won the player of the year. That was his "off" year. He did not even get in the money in any of the Camel Tour tournament. That was Busti's year.
I gotta vote for SHANE now.