The old games we use to play??

cheeseroller

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Who out there remembers some of the old pill pool games such as
1. crazy keely (also called one shot)
2. double check
3. 31

and the board games like keno and amos and andy.

In the pool room where I first learned to play we played games like this all the time. They were all multi player gambling games and a lot of luck was involved. But we had a blast playing games like this.

I might be showing my age but it was only 20-25 years ago when we used to play them.

Why don't we play games like this anymore? Why have such games virtually disappeared?
 
cheeseroller said:
Who out there remembers some of the old pill pool games such as
1. crazy keely (also called one shot)
2. double check
3. 31

and the board games like keno and amos and andy.

In the pool room where I first learned to play we played games like this all the time. They were all multi player gambling games and a lot of luck was involved. But we had a blast playing games like this.

I might be showing my age but it was only 20-25 years ago when we used to play them.

Why don't we play games like this anymore? Why have such games virtually disappeared?
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For one, $25 chalk and the latest greatest LD shaft or custom cue won't overcome the luck factor in those gambling games. They are fun to play but IMO having fun, at least on occasion, seems a little lacking with a lot of players these days.
 
2 shot push out 9 ball
make a spot shot for the cheese
ahh the good old days:thumbup:
 
The good old days

8 Ball - Bank the 8..., 8 Ball Last Pocket was the the only two ways we played
 
I may have heard of #3, never heard of 1 or 2. I've heard of Keno and seen it played in one room. There are a lot of games that are regional and even ones that are just played in certain rooms. Razzle, for instance, seems to be well known in the NE but only a rumor elsewhere. Rules for certain games vary from room to room just as 8 ball does in the bars. There are games in the BCA rule book that the majority of casual players in the country have never even heard of.
 
table rates and high rents

killed these games , it just got to expensive to play over the years, and now the eonomy is killing the rooms.

highrun55
 
I learned the game of pool by playing Lineup in the 60's in the midwest. It was a variation of 14-1.
 
cheeseroller said:
Who out there remembers some of the old pill pool games such as
1. crazy keely (also called one shot)
2. double check
3. 31

and the board games like keno and amos and andy.
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Double check is still played in some of the places I've been in southern Appalachia.

A room I go to lots still has a Keno board that's probably 80 years old. They refinished it last winter. Doesn't get used much.

You don't mention Irish, or Cribbage, but I've played each several times in the past year. Should be playing an 82-year-old guy 1-15 8-ball sometime this week. There's still old-school bank in the area, with 3-or-more-rail kicks, and no point loss for fouls. Haven't seen 2-push 9-ball for a while, but have seen it with no ball-in-hand, except in the kitchen for scratches. Lots of people still know how to make spot shots. Baseball and Golf are pretty much dead. Haven't seen either in a long time. 10-ball Sting gets played when the right people are around.
 
Pushout said:
I may have heard of #3, never heard of 1 or 2. I've heard of Keno and seen it played in one room. There are a lot of games that are regional and even ones that are just played in certain rooms. Razzle, for instance, seems to be well known in the NE but only a rumor elsewhere. Rules for certain games vary from room to room just as 8 ball does in the bars. There are games in the BCA rule book that the majority of casual players in the country have never even heard of.
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Razzle, a great fun game. The rooms that I remember as a kid on the Lower East Side of NY had at least one game going all day long every Sat. and Sun, and always a few people waiting to get in.

The younger guys played .25 a way (money balls & scratches), the older guys $1 a way, added up to some nice sized pots. Four players with the makers of the one and five ball becoming partners.

Similar to rotation, except that you could try and make a ball out of sequence as long as the low ball was moved, if it didn't, it was a scratch. In the event of a pocket scratch with the low ball in the kitchen, you left it there while shooting downtable. Being able to moving the cue ball around well earned you a lot of out of sequence money balls. :thumbup:

J
 
jimmyg said:
Razzle, a great fun game. The rooms that I remember as a kid on the Lower East Side of NY had at least one game going all day long every Sat. and Sun, and always a few people waiting to get in.

The younger guys played .25 a way (money balls & scratches), the older guys $1 a way, added up to some nice sized pots. Four players with the makers of the one and five ball becoming partners.

Similar to rotation, except that you could try and make a ball out of sequence as long as the low ball was moved, if it didn't, it was a scratch. In the event of a pocket scratch with the low ball in the kitchen, you left it there while shooting downtable. Being able to moving the cue ball around well earned you a lot of out of sequence money balls. :thumbup:

J
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There was also a point for "game" which was like Rotation, 61 points or whoever had the most. Partners, if I remember right, the 1 and 5 and the 8 and I can't remember:embarrassed2:
 
I haven't seen Alabama 8 Ball w/Last Pocket Option played in quite a while.

Cribbage (my personal favorite) I believe has already been mentioned but it is still noteworthy.
 
Table time

highrun55 said:
killed these games , it just got to expensive to play over the years, and now the eonomy is killing the rooms.

highrun55
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I agree that table time has killed many of the old games. When we used to play Crazy Keely, it was at an old pool room which charged 25 cent a game. The winner of the game had to pay the 25 cent. I remember this because I was the "rack boy". It was a small pool room with only 4 Brunswick 4 x 8 tables and in the wintertime I would be crazy busy racking all day.

We really pushed Crazy Keely because the game would often end on the break and seldom lasted more than 2 minutes a game. Very fast paced game with a lot of luck involved. It was a money maker for us.

People liked to play it because it had a whole lot of luck in it and you often won without even shooting. Of course, you could also lose without shooting. I remember one time I lost 18 straight games at $2 a game without even shooting at one ball!! All I could do was just curse my bad luck and come back and try another day which I usually did because I loved that game!!

Loved the good ole days!!!
 
Rotation

Pushout said:
There was also a point for "game" which was like Rotation, 61 points or whoever had the most. Partners, if I remember right, the 1 and 5 and the 8 and I can't remember:embarrassed2:
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We used to play a game of rotation which we called 1 and 9 partners. The player that made the 1 and the player that made the 9 were partners. Whichever partners had 61 points or more would win the game.

There was a lot of luck in this game too and we would roll the high numbered balls, because they were worth a lot more points.

I've heard of other versions of this game. Another fun game!
 
Does anyone remember One Ball? It was a single rack 14.1 type game where each player names a side pocket for themselves and the game is played exactly like straight pool except it's over as soon as you make the 1 ball in your designated side pocket. The 1 is racked in the middle and all other rules including the opening break follow straight pool. A foul was ball in hand behind the headstring.

But the game I enjoyed most was called One and Three. A full rack rotation game. For anyone interested, post #10 at the link below is where I listed the rules. It was hours of fun and players would always be waiting in the bleachers to get in should someone have to leave.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=70949&highlight=partner+ball
 
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