The Perfect Case for Your Cue

GMAC said:
I think a Hybrid of hard and soft is the best. Hard where your cues go and soft where you pack you sh-t.

Actually there are cheap fake leather cases out right now that are both hard and soft. If you can make them high end I think you might have something. It holds all your equipment safe and secure in a hard compartment and opens to a soft compartment where you can jam all your goodies. Also they are light weight.

I would get one but they are so cheap. If you could make a real nice one they would sell.

http://www.ozonebilliards.com/haposecueca3.html
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You guys do know that this case is not really any lighter than the same size case in the "hard" case configuration don't you? Actually it's slightly heavier because it has more material surrounding the foam core inserts.

This case is a prime example of how the mind can play tricks on you. Because it "looks" like it should be lighter you automatically perceive and believe it to be lighter.

In fact this case is not lighter and the protection is not as good as a similar sized model which uses one single piece of foam core as the body instead of two pieces.

From a price to performance ratio about the best one can hope for that is both rigid and light at the same time would be fiberglass or carbon fiber and both of these solutions are much more expensive.

Having said that we are working on some solutions that might be affordable.

Otherwise, don't be fooled by things that look like a soft case and promise the protection of a hard case - they aren't as light as a soft case and they aren't as protective as a hard case.
 
crawfish said:
Hypothetically, if you could come up with a cross between Dennis Swift and Justis, I feel you could have the perfect case. I need some input. Let's just say a company came out with a line of customs (Like Appalachian Customs). What would be some characteristics they should consider in making the perfect case? Thanks for input in advance.
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:-)

Is everyone getting in the case business these days? Well it is low barrier to entry and hasn't had a lot of competition on the custom side for a long time.

Well, I always said building them is easy, at least not rocket science, selling them however is another story.

Good luck with the case business. No matter what you make it won't be the "perfect" case but you will find customers if you do them well.
 
RRfireblade said:
So the perfect case then is a my Porper leather 2x2 , very light weight with great interior protection and just enough storage for a single nights play of stuff. Small and compact , inexspensive and warranty for life.

IMO.

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im with you on this i also have a porper 2x2 oval case and it serves me well.its a hard case but not that heavy like you said enough room for everything and i just don think i will ever buy a case from someone else than joe porper.oh yeah and the look of the case is perfect for me :thumbup:
 
I want a sleek looking case, no outside pockets.

Butterfly style, soft case outside with removeable tubes inside.

Configuration: One butt tube, then 3 shaft tubes, then another butt tube.. laying flat. This leaves a cavity above the shaft tubes... between the butt tubes, that is about 1/2" high and 3" wide so I can lay pouches in that cavity. Pouches are better than pockets because I can take them out and look inside more easily than trying to dig down into the pockets. Pouches to be held in place by ??? velcro on top of the tubes??? Other???

Double zipper so any part of the case can be accessed without unzipping the whole thing, and having stuff fall out, and cues can be accessed by opening the top. I don't like having to lay a soft case out flat on the pool table or a chair, or whatever.. and unzip the whole thing, in order to access the cues. It's very inconvenient.

So, the case can be layed down to access everything or the cues and accessories can be accessed while the case is standing up like other hard cases.

Top handle and side handle and shoulder strap.
Sometimes the case needs to be held or carried upright.. like in a crowd.

Some sort of removeable rubber protection ring around the bottom edge & feet to protect the bottom but it would have to be easily removeable so the case could be layed down and opened completely. Maybe vinly tape that sticks to itself but not the object it's wrapped around.

I have it now.... sort of..... I took out the inside and removed the ouside pockets on of a Silver Fox BR-2 semi-hard case and built a top handle for it. I shouldn't have taken out the stiff side support as it's now too floppy and the primary problem is that it's not wide enough to handle the configuration I require.... 2x3 layed flat.

I also have a 1970's leather suitcase type case which I adapted with a double zipper and tube interior so it can be opened all the way to access the pouches or just the top can be opened to access the cues in the tubes. I put a strap on it also. It's pretty cool. It may be what I want.

Once I get it all down pat I'll have JB or Rusty or ???? build it... sort of like Shorty's case but in fully butterfly style but with the flap top like Shorty's case. I really like that closure mechanism.

I'm still experimenting and refining the ideas. It's fun. :groucho:
 
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UrbanCowboy said:
Fast Eddie's case from The Hustler which was a leather tube case with a side handle and the interior was probably cloth liner separating butt/shaft. The top closure was similar to Jack Justis cases--a strap through side loops that shut with a snap button at the end.

I think Brunswick made this case in those days and Irving Crane used one during the world straight pool championship in 1966 against Joe Balsis.

A case like this but with John Barton GTF type interior would be compact, simple, and protective.
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Excuse me, please. What is a GTF type interior? Thanks.
 
A tip to those who have had trouble removing the cue and/or shaft from a porper case..."Marble it". I just dropped marbles down mine, soving them down with the cue shaft. Only do this one marble at a time, until you reach the perfect removal height. Once of having to use pliers to remove a cue was enough for me. :rolleyes:
 
crawfish said:
Hypothetically, if you could come up with a cross between Dennis Swift and Justis, I feel you could have the perfect case. I need some input. Let's just say a company came out with a line of customs (Like Appalachian Customs). What would be some characteristics they should consider in making the perfect case? Thanks for input in advance.
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Hard and lite weight. Don't really care about leather. Use a durable synthetic that won't be damaged by weather. I want a case to protect the cue, not a collectable. I would also like to see some experimenting with new materials that are heat resistant. I would like a case that could be in and out of different temps without changes inside the case. I saw a material once you could hold in the palm of your hand with a torch on it and not get burned.
 
RRfireblade said:
I think there is no perfect. There's probably a perfect case for each situation.

I have a really high end leather case , gorgeous high grade leather , interior strong enough to run over with a car and covered in material soft like a babys butt , inlayed in real white python of a design that matches one of the custom cues that it houses. It has the exact configuration of pockets I need and turns heads every where I go. It's perfect in every way.

But it'll never see a league night.

So the perfect case then is a my Porper leather 2x2 , very light weight with great interior protection and just enough storage for a single nights play of stuff. Small and compact , inexspensive and warranty for life.

IMO.

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I definitely agree with RRfireblade. there is no perfect case. every case has its own unique characteristics which complete it in it's own way. individually having factors that complete its design and some specs that may not be seen on it that other case design have it. and vice versa.

IMO There are basically only two types of cases categorically speaking. hard cases and soft cases. an array of designs fall under hard cases that the list will just go on, as hard cases are progressively developed since the Brunswick (luggage type) to Flowers (leather) days until now. the makers' ideas are still pointing towards the vision of making the hard case a hard case that is lightweight yet still carries the protection of a hard one.

Now, enter the soft cases. which as well have so many design variations. but this time its goal is gravitated towards the weight and portability issues. they go towards the "compact" idea, that the player can carry his favorite cue(s) but minus the bulk weight on his shoulders before a big match or just to be practical and casual since the room is just a stone's throw away.

Another important point is protection like if you travel a lot go for a hard case with the hard shell and all. that is a perfect case in that aspect. no matter how hard the material you have in your cases if your not responsible enough your cues are still in for damage. but if you are just going to your local pool room or maybe a tourney in the next block go for a soft case. that is practical and perfect again in its own aspect as a soft case.

But i have experienced and seen myself top players who have hi-end hard cases that they still pack in travel bags when flying. And bring soft cases as spare when they need to just bring a cue and leave the hard case in their hotel rooms. so they can move around comfortably. which is another category. " comfort". this is self-explanatory so i will not dwell on this.

With these understanding i think its a matter of personal preference for it to be called your "perfect case". Cases, whether hard or soft its how you would want it. Considering your needs, comfortability, protection to fit your lifestyle like if you travel often, your budget and maybe your taste aesthetically or visually. and believe me or not, fashion, where in you can see your individuality as the owner of the case maybe in how your case was designed just for you and your taste, that's color, leather type, some personalized initials, and so on. coz how many times do we go to a party and feel funny when the italian linen branded shirt we have been saving for some time to impress a date and low and behold another guy is wearing the same expensive shirt and he bought months ahead of you already.:eek:

That's why we have different custom cue case makers who can build that "perfect cue case" we all want.

Just my 2 cents.





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crawfish said:
Hypothetically, if you could come up with a cross between Dennis Swift and Justis, I feel you could have the perfect case. I need some input. Let's just say a company came out with a line of customs (Like Appalachian Customs). What would be some characteristics they should consider in making the perfect case? Thanks for input in advance.
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I honestly think comparing Jack Justis, and Dennis Swift is not a good comparison.

Jack work in a Box all his 2 x 4's or 3 x 6's are pretty much the same. Fine cases, but IMHO built out of the same cookie cutter pattern.

Dennis on the other hand makes a wide variation of Models, Closure Types, Pocket Types, Pocket Dimension,. So if you want a Swing Over the Top Lid Dennis can do it. If you want a Closure like a Instroke, Dennis can do it. If you want a Special pocket for a J/B handle Dennis can do it.

If you want a Deep, Fat, Longer Pocket, or longer Case etc. Dennis Can do it.

Last don't forget.....This Masked Man....LOL..........who is doing it all, and always coming up with new ideas in case making!
 
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The perfect cue case would be a 2x4 tube style case made of NASA grade carbon fiber, pockets for all your extra stuff, holster for a pistol, cell phone holder, and a pair of blood thirsty Doberman Pinschers.
MULLY
 
My Perfect Case is under construction, and hopefully it shall be done soon.
 

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The case that Jonathon Winters used in that episode of the Twilight Zone? Looks like a black eel skin case, handle to carry. Always REALLY liked this case. Possibly a Martin case? I wonder what happened to that case.

Chris
 
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