The Removal Of The Design Your Dream Thread
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You were the "squeaky clean" one I was referring to.
The way you modulate how much work you take on regardless off the money involved makes you more unique than most, and you can control things much better.
There's a difference when you don't give the whiners a reason to whine.
Keep things under control makes you impervious to the one or two guys in every city who potentially will look for a reason to attack a guy publicly.
Also you have valuable knowledge 100% from experience that very few have.
I appreciate you hanging in there.
I've gone 9 years a couple of times, never said anything, and in the end it paid off in a big way.
When you're not squeaky clean there are always going to be those one or two guys and many of them never buy anything custom or deal with cuemakers.
Who needs that crap, I don't blame them
A cuemaker makes a mistake and somebody goes public.
I have to worry about it just as a custom cue collector and seller, which is why I never sold anything until I retired and had the time to deal with the questions.
Obviously 8 years isnt long enough for you to pick on one guy.
I bet you are a hoot at the pool hall.
Where were you when cuemakers ripped guys off for well over 100 grand that we are aware of and these threads rolled for a day or two and disappeared.
Where were you when cuemakers pulled some of the lamest moves I have ever heard of in any business?
I was right there in the middle of them.
I made my mistakes on this forum. Got in over my head. The trolls followed when I was called. That won't happen again. I stayed because I, for the most part have fun here. I pick and choose my battles.
No one is picking on anyone.
What we are discussing is the behavior of one guy who, apparently, still (after 8 years), hasn’t made things right nor, at a minimum, offered an apology.
As to the other stuff, I don’t read every thread nor visit every forum here. For whatever reasons someone brought this one back from the dead and it caught my eye. Regardless, the issues are still germane and still unresolved.
I’m sure you too are a hoot and a half at your pool hall, though that doesn’t come actoss very well in your posts.
Lou Figueroa
Higjly doubtful those threads were missed.
You like many others didn't give a shit about people losing their hard earned money.
Thread participation isn't even the issue.
We all chose to participate as we feel necessary but it was obvious 8 years ago the contest was a bust and I have a problem with guys beating a dead horse for 8 years.
Has it affected my ability to collect and sell Josswest cues?
No it hasn't affected the secondary market one bit, I just don't pick on people for 8 years, and I do call it picking on people when it goes that long.
Classic forum bully bullshit.
So almost all cuemakers are basically shady, and will run away if there is ever a chance they are held accountable? Then in a later post you complain that threads were pulled were people did shady things? Well, which is it? Do you want censorship or no? Accountability or free passes?
I think the BS thread is over the top, and many others are worthy of much harsher words, but there should be accountability. In this case, it may have been unfairly harsh, but that could have been mitigated fairly easily by Mr. Stroud himself. If he'd apologized and made some sort of explanation, the whole thing would have went away by itself.
I'm glad when cuemakers are held accountable, and I've seen my fair share of pulled threads and fanboy interventions. You're not helping anyone by enabling that kind of behavior.
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You aren't holding anyone accountable for anything.
I've done quite a bit over the years to help people who have been wronged.
I guess people didn't get their shots in the past so why not do it eight years later, and get the entire thread deleted.
There are plenty of cuemakers on the Facebook do not deal list, people post for a while, then if things haven't been made right they get inteoduced to the dreaded list.
Even on Facebook people don't keep dragging it on and on and on.
Mike;
Where did you move the DYD thread to?
I did a search for it but nothing has come up.
thx,
brian kc
All I can tell you is the truth -- I didn't see them and/or they didn't catch my attention.
As to the statute of limitations on different topics here, that will undoubtably vary depending on circumstances. BUT, from the number of views and posts that thread had it is still obviously something people want to address.
And oh. So you are a JossWest collector and seller, lol. That explains soooo much. Thanks for sharing.
Lou Figueroa
You do pretty well on the forums, think I told you that about 8 or 9 years ago. State your opinion at times, but do so without being condescending.
And from the "too much BS here recently..." thread:
What are your trying to take credit for?
Lou Figueroa
I'm a thread killer. Hopefully this one stays dead.
There is a moderator forum, that can't be seen by anyone but moderators. Moving threads there allows me to remove them from public view, but they stay intact.
Mike
Mike
You aren’t the only guy dancing around this....but you are dancing, like a politician.
8 years for a Southwest order is often just part of a ten year wait....it’s still exactly the
same order....an expiration date doesn’t come into play.
And 8 years ago in this DYD cue scenario, Bill Stroud was one of the most popular guys
on AZ.....he could’ve ran for Prez....it was a few years later that the doubts arose about
his intentions.....and zero communication from the cue maker till just recently.
There would’ve been very little drama, if any, if there had been communication.
It’s beating a dead horse into oblivion...close it, no more commenting, but leave it. Jmo.
I have been on here for about 11 years but I look more than post. But felt that I Should comment on this. First and foremost Bill Stroud was wrong in the way he handled this. Hiding your head in the sand and hoping problems will go away is no way to go through life. He should have apologized and told the winner of his health issues. If he wanted privacy he should have stated that to the contest winner. I felt bad for the winner years ago when this happened and still do. Then for the guy who got Bill's machinery to chime in and say he would finish the cue was cool. But then to go years without even a peep from this person is sad. The bad cue makers ruin it for the honest ones. Which based on all the bad experiences on here seem few and far between. I am glad there are a few good guys still out there.
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