The Rifleman Vs. SVB

I bet it would not be an exaggeration to say there are 1000 Player A vs. Player B in their prime threads.

While there may be some interesting banter in between the first and last post, the usual end is that no one can ever know, and then we all wait for the next

who was better on the bar box Keith or Matlock thread.

Anyone at a legends speed gets up and flips a coin, then proceeds to run sets out from the flip, so who's better at calling the flip?
 
Sw10balltour said:
Buddy Hall in his prime Vs. Svb today. Who wins? Let's say 9 ball race to ...
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Just a guess, but I think this poll is age dependent. Only those who have seen both Buddy in his prime and SVB today could make a fair comparison.

My guess is that the younger members of the forum will vote for SVB and the older members of the forum will vote for Buddy.

Personally, I think it would be close but I would give the edge to Buddy.

I will, sit back in my recliner and enjoy the popcorn.
 
This thread is goofy....But as I seen Buddy play 20 years ago, and now Shane nowadays, I would not Take ANYONE over Buddy, noone and I mean NOONE played as precise shape as Buddy..He made the game look so simple......He taught and told me a few things I will never forget when he was living in Florida and playing all the daily tourneys with all of us clowns, but it was valuable lessons everyone got for free
 
Sw10balltour said:
Buddy Hall in his prime Vs. Svb today. Who wins? Let's say 9 ball race to ...
...50
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Buddy Hall was one of the top players walking the earth for more the 35 years, quite a record in any sport. Always the favorite to win any tournament all that time. His contemporaries were some of the best to ever play 9 ball and he was at the top. I saw him play for the first time in Dayton Ohio in I think it was 1974 and he lived up to the advanced billing. I can't imagine the game being played better then he played it at his best.

A nice read
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1089351/index.htm
 
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How is this thread any different than trying to compare Ali Vs. Tyson?
Or Peyton Manning against Joe Montana? It's just creating small talk about a sport that all of us at azb love.
Like the quote says " there are no stupid questions only stupid answers"
 
They are both great American players that will gamble on there own dime with the top players in the world in there prime. I have seen Buddy play in the US Open many times and at the DCC several times plus 30 accu stats of him and he was feared by everyone in 9 ball and 1 pocket and I don't think he feared anyone. Shane is the same way in big table 10 ball or barbox 8 or 9 ball and still improving in 1 pocket everyday, so I think Buddy was the the Man in 9 ball and Shane with his 10 ball break would have won over Buddy. But it would be close in my mind and come down to who had the break working, Shane destroys the best right now as in Mika, Earl, Alex (soon I hope) and once before so I will say Buddy at Shanes age was a stronger 9 ball gambler.--Leonard
 
I saw Buddy in ( I think ) 1976 at Dayton.s Forest Park Billiards. I think he beat Rempe in the finals. I have never seen anyone play better when the balls are tied up. But, it's true that great players with great breaks,i.e. SVB, Earl, etc. might make it a tough game for anyone. But, if Buddy was breaking good, I'd still have to go with Buddy. And, I've seen SVB play many times.
just a humble opinion from one old-timer...
 
9 Ball Buddy wins.

10 Ball Shane wins.

Orcullo makes em both sweat.

Nothing wrong with a little bench racing.
 
Buddy Hall, hands down...SVB still hasn't hit his peak IMHO...Buddy Hall in his prime had tons more knowledge and experience; give SVB about 5 more years and maybe he'll draw even or eventually beat Buddy's top form--but not yet.
 
If Buddy would get some professional help with his weight his game would be back at the highest level.
 
How can u tell when the playing conditions r so much different. I believe when buddy played it was easier to get perfect shape cause the tables played slower and the pockets where bigger. The tables today favor the roll shot more than the skid shot.
 
West Point 1987 said:
Buddy Hall, hands down...SVB still hasn't hit his peak IMHO...Buddy Hall in his prime had tons more knowledge and experience; give SVB about 5 more years and maybe he'll draw even or eventually beat Buddy's top form--but not yet.
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This is what i was thinking. Shane's best may be yet to come. As it stands, I'll take $500 on Buddy.
 
That's a tough call, but Buddy just didn't let anyone beat him. He could step up his game to whatever level he needed to win. In the long run, I think he would wear Shane out. Maybe not bust him, but make him quit from frustration, if you get what I mean. Playing Buddy back then was like trying to pound your hand through a brick wall.

And Buddy could play One Pocket and Banks with the best players also.
 
Break?....no contest...Shane Van Boening

Stroke?...no contest ...Buddy Hall

..hard to mix the eras though
Buddy handled fast cloth ok...
but Shane knows stuff at a young age that Buddy invented
jmo
 
Well Cue ball control advantage Buddy.
Break.....control....power...shot after.....Shane
Ball Pocketing......shane
Stamina in prime.....Buddy....only because of the 48hr/72hr sessions. Don't know shanes longest session/sessions?

Also, what table is this going to be played on? Diamond pro-am Advantage Shane....only slighly

Brunswick GC with 4.75in pockets or bigger.....I would make this an even advantage, but more balls on the break would be in Buddy's favor.

I think we would all agree that Shane's break would give him the run advantage, but, These are my two favorite rotation players, so I realy do make it Even.

Which after thinking about it, if they are even, then this post hasn't done anyone any good and I was just stretching my fingers. LOL
 
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