Are you saying the $500 guy can't do the same quality as the $750 guy?
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Are you saying the $500 guy can't do the same quality as the $750 guy?
I offered a job to Bob Dzuricky. I wanted a joint pin changed on a Segen cue. It’s a broader diameter than a standard joint. He refused to take the project on, due to the amount of work it would take him. Would you consider Bob to be a fairly good cue maker and repair guy?
That's my point, thanks.
All of the KNOWN makers were doing the EXACT same conversion.
All of them would have done quality work, yet they all charged different prices for the SAME task.
Schmelke will charge you $500. Searing will charge you $750. Who and how much are you paying?
It’s not the same task. It’s the same end result. The way I install a joint may be vastly different than the other guys. We all do things our own way after a few years.
It’s the ability of the named cue maker more than the name as far as I can tell. Kind of like bottle of Cab I had Saturday night. I imagine when you add up all the components that went into that wine it may add up to a few pennies? Maybe a couple of bucks with the bottle and cork? So why does it cost as much as the nicest Shmelke? Because it’s worth it. To me but not everyone. But it’s definitely worth more than the sum of the parts.
On another note, I totally agree my reading comprehension sucks. Probably drink too much.
I'd still be interested in knowing if he coughed up full MSRP for his j-pots.
If not, it would explain why it doesnt offend him to pay $500 for a $165 cue.
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18 pages deep and this thread has completely gone off the rails.
This isn't an argument of how one cue maker may charge $100 for a scope of work and someone with a higher profile may charge $300. That is a known thing that happens in the world. Same as if I go down to the grocery store and compare prices between "Honey Nut Cheerios" and "Honey Nut O's" They're more or less the same thing but only one of them has General Mills written on it so it will cost more.
The intended point of this thread was that Dean advertised that the Jackpot cues were being made by someone, sold them, and then revealed that he had LIED about the details he originally posted. This bait and switch sales tactic is the same as if I said I'll sell you a box of Cheerios for $5/box but really sold you a $1 box of Honey Nut O's. Regardless of whether that cereal was the best thing you've ever eaten, it doesn't make me less of a scumbag for selling you on one thing but delivering something else.
That's it, that's the argument. Regardless of how you feel about Dean, you should be able to admit that what he did is wrong and worth the condemnation he is receiving. If you can't, well I have a few boxes of Cheerios to sell you...
This isn't an argument of how one cue maker may charge $100 for a scope of work and someone with a higher profile may charge $300. That is a known thing that happens in the world. Same as if I go down to the grocery store and compare prices between "Honey Nut Cheerios" and "Honey Nut O's" They're more or less the same thing but only one of them has General Mills written on it so it will cost more.
The intended point of this thread was that Dean advertised that the Jackpot cues were being made by someone, sold them, and then revealed that he had LIED about the details he originally posted. This bait and switch sales tactic is the same as if I said I'll sell you a box of Cheerios for $5/box but really sold you a $1 box of Honey Nut O's. Regardless of whether that cereal was the best thing you've ever eaten, it doesn't make me less of a scumbag for selling you on one thing but delivering something else.
That's it, that's the argument. Regardless of how you feel about Dean, you should be able to admit that what he did is wrong and worth the condemnation he is receiving. If you can't, well I have a few boxes of Cheerios to sell you...
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I've met a guy who can carve a perfect replica of Mount Rusmore on a grain of rice by hand and he makes less than a guy working part-time at McDonalds. Working for less money doesn't mean you aren't skilled.
Bob didn't do it because he couldn't do it, he just figured doing it was out of your price range that you were willing to pay.
Just a side-bar thing here. I bought a Schmelke sneaky with a few upgrades(collars, ferrule, buttcap) a couple yrs ago. I was fully on the Schmelke train and even recommended them to others. Well, no more. Both shafts have warped. Not a lot but there is a slight hop on each when rolled on a flat surface. They said i've had it too long and basically tough luck. It still plays fine but i'd never buy anything from them again. BTW, both shafts were kept in a good case and stored upright.
Price was never discussed. Bob just didn’t want to do the job. Didn’t mean he wasn’t capable of it. Meant that he didn’t want to do it. I’m glad you own the crystal ball, but Bob and I actually discussed the cue. And he explained why he didn’t want to do it. Do you always try to make up shit that makes you sound smarter?
Rep to you, sir.
WTF?! Out of context---> you!
Your $1500 post was in response to my:
Your response was as slick as dean's creamy women. who in thfhuk was talking about parts?
Your $1500 post was in response to my:
Your response was as slick as dean's creamy women. who in thfhuk was talking about parts?
Ditto on the $500 Mezz. LIGHT-YEARS nicer than any cue Schmelke has ever made or will make. This is what $560 will get you from Mezz: https://www.mezzusa.com/collections/ec9-series/products/ec9-cmn-billiard-cue
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I guess I’m the exception. I met a Randy at his new shop and we discussed the cue for twenty minutes or so and then I stroked him a check for half. And then I got a call from him that it was done so I drove up again, stroked another check and we were done. But then again if I’m bored I go fishing or to play pool, not start calling people.
Maybe some people need to get better jobs or maybe get a job.
My buddy and a few of his pals bought a $3500 bottle of scotch. They had about a shot each...roughly $400 a shot.
One shot and it was gone.
I am still shooting with my cue.
If you can't afford your hobby, find something else to do.
They can’t even build to a standard joint diameter. I received two custom Uniloc sneakies. One was .830 at the joint, and 1.18” at the butt. The other was .855” at the joint, and 1.28” at the butt.
My guess is he Just didn’t want to do it for you. Sometime you can see a train wreck coming, and no amount of money is worth it.
Guys, I still have the email if anyone wants the real reason why he didn’t want to do the job. Hint: he doesn’t really NEED the work, as he’s busy and can choose what projects he takes on. Which, in itself explains why Jim found 4 guys with similar skills, and 4 different prices. Chances are the lower priced guys need the work, and the higher priced guys don’t.
Can’t argue that. Except I hate scotch. Bourbon too. But I still have my cues and plenty of wine. And plenty of rum. For those rum drinkers out there go get a bottle of Zacapa XO. It’s not too expensive and smooth as anything.
Damn, I’ve been trying to wait until 5:00 to pour the first cocktail but thanks to you I’m going in 15minutes early. Thanks!
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