The Ten Greatest Players Of All Time

measureman

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Bob Jewett said:
Still, de Oro's tournament/challenge match record is pretty impressive, just listing his World Championships. Note that he held the 14.1 title and the 3-cushion title at the same time. At that time pool was evolving, eventually resulting in the rules of 14.1 more or less as they are now.

  1. 1887 Fifteen-ball pool World Champion
  2. 1888 Fifteen-ball pool WC
  3. 1889 Continuous pool WC
  4. 1890 Continuous pool WC
  5. 1891 May Continuous pool WC
  6. 1892 Mar Continuous pool WC
  7. 1893 Mar Continuous pool WC
  8. 1893 Jun Continuous pool WC
  9. 1896 May Continuous pool WC
  10. 1896 Jun Continuous pool WC
  11. 1898 Dec Continuous pool WC
  12. 1899 Jan Continuous pool WC
  13. 1899 Apr Continuous pool WC
  14. 1899 Dec Continuous pool WC
  15. 1900 Apr Continuous pool WC
  16. 1901 Apr Continuous pool WC
  17. 1904 Nov Continuous pool WC
  18. 1905 Jan Continuous pool WC
  19. 1905 May Continuous pool WC
  20. 1905 Oct Continuous pool WC
  21. 1908 May Continuous pool WC
  22. 1908 Oct Continuous pool WC
  23. 1908 3-Cushion WC
  24. 1910 Nov Continuous pool WC
  25. 1910 3-Cushion WC
  26. 1911 Jan Continuous pool WC
  27. 1911 Mar Continuous pool WC
  28. 1911 Apr Continuous pool WC
  29. 1911 May Continuous pool WC
  30. 1911 3-Cushion WC
  31. 1912 Jun 14.1 Continuous WC
  32. 1912 Nov 14.1 Continuous WC
  33. 1913 Jan 14.1 Continuous WC
  34. 1913 Feb 14.1 Continuous WC
  35. 1913 3-Cushion WC
  36. 1914 3-Cushion WC
  37. 1915 3-Cushion WC
  38. 1917 3-Cushion WC
  39. 1919 3-Cushion WC
This is from Wikipedia. A brief scan of some of Charlie Ursitti's files indicates that the list may be off a little.
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He dominated for 32 years!
I dont think anyone has done that in any sport or game ever.
 
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sjm

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This list is going to look a lot different down the road, with numerous Europeans firmly in the conversation.
 
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sjm said:
This list is going to look a lot different down the road, with numerous Europeans firmly in the conversation.
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Hi Stu, I'm a brand new member on the AZ forums! a big fan of Yours! Really like your top 10 list, great list of players that are solid choices. I just have two questions, one being I know buddy hall was predominantly a Nine-ball player and One pocket player but how far would you rank him below these players? and due to Shane Van Boening's recent win at the World Pool Championship were would you rank him on this list or is it to early in his career to say?
 
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raphcleary said:
Hi Stu, I'm a brand new member on the AZ forums! a big fan of Yours! Really like your top 10 list, great list of players that are solid choices. I just have two questions, one being I know buddy hall was predominantly a Nine-ball player and One pocket player but how far would you rank him below these players? and due to Shane Van Boening's recent win at the World Pool Championship were would you rank him on this list or is it to early in his career to say?
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Thanks for the kind words. I'm shocked to learn that I have ANY fans.

To me, Buddy was a small notch below Sigel, Varner, and Lassiter, although he could put a beating on any player at a moment's notice and often did. Among the Americans, I'd put him more on a par with guys like Archer and Rempe, two legends of the highest order whose career resumes were remarkable.

Until SVB won his first world championship, it was hard for me to put him in the conversation for greatest ever American player, but he's in the conversation now. I still don't see how you put him on a par with Sigel, who was the best straight pool player in the world when the straight pool era ended as well as the best nine ball player in the early part of the nine-ball era, but to compare SVB with Lassiter and Varner, both of whom were giants in multiple disciplines, is now within reason.

Of course, Mosconi and Greenleaf were the most dominant players of the straight pool era, and they dominated their peers far more than Sigel dominated his peers.

Hence, a top seven ever Americans list might start like this:

1, Mosconi
2. Greenleaf
3. Sigel
4A. Van Boening
4B. Lassiter
4C. Varner
7. Strickland

Shane has certainly juiced up the debate with his career defining win at the WPC. I just can't quite put Buddy Hall in the company of these seven.
 
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