the "v" a question to all coaches out there

Some people are interested in what you know.

scott i dont think anyone invented it, and it is the finishing point of the thumb and index finger after hitting the cueball, these to fingers control the shot (steering wheel) other 3 are ur power (engine), i was wondering why its not taught more the importance of this, and shawn no there is no catch, and you obviously dont play to a high level or you would understand what this is and does...

people on here always knocking people makes me laugh thought we was here to share and help people.

Lee,
I'm always interested in learning more about pool. Are you able to give a good description of the V System over the Internet? Or is that something that you only teach in person?

I've read somewhere that snooker players when stroking like to use their thumb and index finger to bring the cue back :) and simulataneously relaxing the second and third fingers and the pinky as we call it doesn't touch anything.

I think Lee Brett probably plays better than most any AZBer, including me.

Thanks,
JoeyA (will take a ball or two in one pocket)
 
And you're a self serving, arrogant ass-clown. Seriously, the comment about you being the "most natural player potter in the world" on your YouTube profile is absolutely hilarious.

So, Sherlock, if I subscribe to Hal Mix's theory regarding the grip, being that the index finger isn't even on the cue, I guess I'm robbing myself of something? It seems to have worked well for Nick Varner.


shawn, the videos on you tube want done by me or put on and the comments wasnt mine just someone else's opinion not mine, your an arrogant clueless idiot and i would love you to come and say that to my face, and see how far you get, id also like to see you get a 20 break never mine a 147 no wonder u cant play stuck in ur clueless world slagging others when u know f u c k all
 
Man, some of you are pretty tough on Lee here. Tough crowd around here, huh?
 
Lee,
I'm always interested in learning more about pool. Are you able to give a good description of the V System over the Internet? Or is that something that you only teach in person?

I've read somewhere that snooker players when stroking like to use their thumb and index finger to bring the cue back :) and simulataneously relaxing the second and third fingers and the pinky as we call it doesn't touch anything.

I think Lee Brett probably plays better than most any AZBer, including me.

Thanks,
JoeyA (will take a ball or two in one pocket)

I only use my thumb, index and middle finger to grip. I have had the most success with this grip and have been using it for some years now. I'm also interested in what Lee has to offer.
 
Tough crowd around here, huh?
Well, they're both Canuckians, thats how we talk to each other. Just different terms of endearment toward our fellow man. You should see what happens when we get mad for real.
 
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Do any of the coaches or anyone else on here know what the "v" is and how
this controls all of your shots and the better you understand this the better player you will become.

lee brett

Lee, you should definitely release a video that includes your aiming system, elbow drop, the V, etc. I know that some of us are very interested in what you have to offer. I for one would take a lesson but that is just not feasible ( From Canada ), so a DVD is the next best thing. Look at what Gene ( Genomachino ) has done with his Perfect Aim DVD. He put a pretty large price tag on ( 15min of info ) his DVD and has sold almost a thousand, his profit looks nice :) Definitely release one, I'll buy it.
 
Lee, you should definitely release a video that includes your aiming system, elbow drop, the V, etc. I know that some of us are very interested in what you have to offer. I for one would take a lesson but that is just not feasible ( From Canada ), so a DVD is the next best thing. Look at what Gene ( Genomachino ) has done with his Perfect Aim DVD. He put a pretty large price tag on ( 15min of info ) his DVD and has sold almost a thousand, his profit looks nice :) Definitely release one, I'll buy it.

thankyou for ur kind words i will do that, i have been asked to do a book and nearly finished, and will look to do a dvd and then sell it, also dean yes always tough on me but make more determined to take pool up full time, i will explain in a dvd what the "v" is and does and how i aim and how to drop the elbow for you all in good time, this is my last post
 
Damn!

Hopefully he decides otherwise but perhaps people more eager to find an argument than learn have just cut the forum off from one more good source of information.

I have approached Lee privately and found him to be very open and friendly. He freely shared the information I asked about and told me to feel free to ask anything else I wanted to know.

Folks this may be hard to believe but the sum of all knowledge is not contained on AZB. We can learn from snooker players, 3C players, and maybe the butcher, baker, and candlestick maker.

Lee, I'll be keeping an eye out for whatever you market. My high run fell 19 points shy of maximum and you have ran ten maximums. As it happens I was just explaining to someone today exactly what it takes to run a 147. Most pool players don't have a clue.

Do let me know when and where you are going to be in the US please.

Hu
 
shawn, the videos on you tube want done by me or put on and the comments wasnt mine just someone else's opinion not mine, your an arrogant clueless idiot and i would love you to come and say that to my face, and see how far you get, id also like to see you get a 20 break never mine a 147 no wonder u cant play stuck in ur clueless world slagging others when u know f u c k all

Oh, I forgot - excellence in pool allows you to be a complete jackass to anyone who doesn't play at your level - my bad. As far as coming to say something to your face, check your PMs. Most of the people that are around you will know how to get in touch with me - Johnny Morra, Eric Hildebrandt, etc, should all know Mike Roberts - Mikey has my cell number. I'm not hard to find if you want to give me a piece of your mind.

You posted a cryptic message about the "v", like you were calling out other coaches, trying to show them up. I don't appreciate that, as there are several good coaches out there, and you tried to show them up, or promote yourself. You're the one that resorted to name calling.
 
Hopefully he decides otherwise but perhaps people more eager to find an argument than learn have just cut the forum off from one more good source of information.

I have approached Lee privately and found him to be very open and friendly. He freely shared the information I asked about and told me to feel free to ask anything else I wanted to know.

Folks this may be hard to believe but the sum of all knowledge is not contained on AZB. We can learn from snooker players, 3C players, and maybe the butcher, baker, and candlestick maker.

Lee, I'll be keeping an eye out for whatever you market. My high run fell 19 points shy of maximum and you have ran ten maximums. As it happens I was just explaining to someone today exactly what it takes to run a 147. Most pool players don't have a clue.

Do let me know when and where you are going to be in the US please.

Hu
This kind of thing is why I walked away from the Pool scene. Way too much anger and woofing. And ShootingArts, you're right about learning from other diciplines. Where do I go for coaching? The coaches on this site and others who coach pool. I learned a little from you yesterday and sent it to a friend struggling at trap shooting.

Guess I shouldn't get upset. I realize I don't know everything anymore. There was a time that I did I assure you.

Hey Lee, There's an IGNORE option here that if activated will not show you posters you don't want to see.
 
glad I could help

I'm glad something I wrote could help your friend. I have found that good information can come from all of the usual places but also some highly unusual ones too. We have to leave ourselves open to be able to learn though. A bird with a brain about the size of a pea taught me something that makes me a better pool player.

Hu


This kind of thing is why I walked away from the Pool scene. Way too much anger and woofing. And ShootingArts, you're right about learning from other diciplines. Where do I go for coaching? The coaches on this site and others who coach pool. I learned a little from you yesterday and sent it to a friend struggling at trap shooting.

Guess I shouldn't get upset. I realize I don't know everything anymore. There was a time that I did I assure you.

Hey Lee, There's an IGNORE option here that if activated will not show you posters you don't want to see.
 
out of the mouths of babes and sucklings...

I have found that good information can come from all of the usual places but also some highly unusual ones too. We have to leave ourselves open to be able to learn though. A bird with a brain about the size of a pea taught me something that makes me a better pool player.

Hu

Absolutely right! This is one of the great things about the Internet. It gives you access to the thoughts and collective experiences of a large number of people who sharing a common interest. If you approach it in the right way, this is a gold mine! (Of course like a like a gold mine, there is a heck of a lot of rubbish that you have to look through and discard, but that is something that you have to do if you want to find the nuggets :))

Anyone with an open and enquiring mind can learn a lot from posts on this forum; and not just from posts by experts (or supposed experts). Together, forum members probably have millions of hours of experience and this has contributed to the various opinions and beliefs that are shared here. By listening attentively to what people have to say, and not closing your mind as soon as you hear an opinion that you do not agree with, or an argument that you do not think is logical, it is possible to learn a lot.

And I for one would be interested to hear what this bird has to say. What name does it post under?
 
peace-sign techniques

lee brett...If you're talking about the fact that a rolling CB (for most cut shots) leaves the contact angle at 30 degrees (vs. 90 degrees, for a sliding CB), than yes, I've known that for decades (it's not new). I taught/teach it the same way dave describes it...using a "peace sign", with your first two fingers. Dr. Dave pointed it out, on his site, but certainly didn't 'invent' the concept (and I don't think he says he did either). He certainly made lots of poolplayers more aware of the "30 degree rule".
Scott,

The "natural angle" or "half-ball hit" effect has been known for a long time (probably hundreds of years). I think I was the first to use the phrase: "30 degree rule." I also thought I invented the peace-sign technique. I think I was certainly the first to put it print (in my book and in many BD articles). I certainly had not seen it in print or demonstrated by anyone before I included it in my book. Although, I wouldn't be surprised if people have used aids (e.g., the first two fingers) to help judge the "natural angle" in the past.

I have many resources supporting the 90-degree and 30-degree rules here:


I've also applied the peace-sign technique to the trisect system for predicting CB direction for a draw shot (see my March '06 article).

These videos demonstrate the peace-sign techniques:
Regards,
Dave
 
hi

And you're a self serving, arrogant ass-clown. Seriously, the comment about you being the "most natural player potter in the world" on your YouTube profile is absolutely hilarious.

So, Sherlock, if I subscribe to Hal Mix's theory regarding the grip, being that the index finger isn't even on the cue, I guess I'm robbing myself of something? It seems to have worked well for Nick Varner.

lee wrote me a pm and asked if i wanted coaching from someone who had more ability than me.
i said who is it that has more ability you lee brett.
hes a great snooker player but i told him i would be happy to play him 14.1,10ball,and 1hole for say 10,000.
i know he has more ability than me just ask him but im going to try him anyway.

by the way lee being pro at 9 or 10ball is easy. its a game of luck and who breaks good. onehole and 14.1 are harder to learn and have less luck.
 
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