The Working Pro Player

[jay helfert]

I have never heard of a poolhall where there were 15 people willing to play even in 1-pocket, I don't think it exists except in a tournament.

I told you you can't try to rob. I have never played a game of banks in my life and I have watched you drill a very good player in that game I would have to pass unless I become brain damaged at which point I might consider it.

I know tall Phil would play you even in 1-pocket but probably you would have to give some weight to get games with the other 1-pocket players.

Like I said I have very rarely had a problem getting a game there but I am willing to give up a lot of weight to some of the players in order to play.

Wayne

Excuse me Wayne. Is it "trying to rob" to get an even game, when you only play about once every three or four months. These guys live in there. I think it is a little out of line, that I come once in six months and they ask me for weight. And they play every day.

So you mean there are 15 guys who would play me if I matched up with them. No thanks. I really don't care to give up weight on those super Ernesto tight tables. How would you like to give me 8-6 on one of those tight boxes. I know you beat everyone around L.A. these days. And I'm retired, since I closed the poolroom.

I have never tried to rob anyone in a pool hall. It's just not my style. I always looked for an even game. That's all. I don't even know Tall Phil. How does he play? What do you give him?

 

[Timberly]

Post your photo. I want to see if i know you. I do, don't I?

LOL, I've never met him in person but I do know him well enough to know that he's not going to post a picture.

 

[vagabond]

Post your photo. I want to see if i know you. I do, don't I?

I will give u a hint.For your big tournament in LA in 1993 when Mark Tadd won the ?Banks and placed high in 9 ball I sent my entry fee to play 9 Ball and collect points to qualify to Mens Pro Billiards Tour but I did not show up.Subsequently we met on three different occasions.More than 5 years ago we chatted in the bar in that Indian Reservation Casino out side Sandiego during WPBA event.Our recent meetings in Las Vegas were very brief for a minute or two. I am ugly looking old man and does not want to post my photo.I do not want to post my real name on the internet.Cheers

 

[rackmsuckr]

I will give u a hint.For your big tournament in LA in 1993 when Mark Tadd won the ?Banks and placed high in 9 ball I sent my entry fee to play 9 Ball and collect points to qualify to Mens Pro Billiards Tour but I did not show up.Subsequently we met on three different occasions.More than 5 years ago we chatted in the bar in that Indian Reservation Casino out side Sandiego during WPBA event.Our recent meetings in Las Vegas were very brief for a minute or two. I am ugly looking old man and does not want to post my photo.I do not want to post my real name on the internet.Cheers

Oh brother, he is definitely not ugly and not that old either, lol.

 

[wayne]

Excuse me Wayne. Is it "trying to rob" to get an even game, when you only play about once every three or four months. These guys live in there. I think it is a little out of line, that I come once in six months and they ask me for weight. And they play every day.

So you mean there are 15 guys who would play me if I matched up with them. No thanks. I really don't care to give up weight on those super Ernesto tight tables. How would you like to give me 8-6 on one of those tight boxes. I know you beat everyone around L.A. these days. And I'm retired, since I closed the poolroom.

I have never tried to rob anyone in a pool hall. It's just not my style. I always looked for an even game. That's all. I don't even know Tall Phil. How does he play? What do you give him?

You can ask Tang how Phil plays, I think they played quite a bit a week or two ago for some decent amount. I think they played even but the only way Phil could hang with Tang even is because Tang is out of stroke. I normally spot Phil a ball or two but since I rarely get to play anymore he played me even the last time we played and beat me. If we ever end up in the same poolhall I will make a game with you and play.

Wayne

 

[STANTON]

i used to play at 6th and western in the early 70's. with jerry, freddy and hawaiian brian. brian and i went on a mini trip up north and stopped in at your place in bakersfield. you were one of the few that got up and played brian. i was young and enjoyed listening to you and brian talk stories and how you got the name toupee jay. i've always thought you were a class act. seeya at hardtimes someday.
stanton

 

[jay helfert]

I will give u a hint.For your big tournament in LA in 1993 when Mark Tadd won the ?Banks and placed high in 9 ball I sent my entry fee to play 9 Ball and collect points to qualify to Mens Pro Billiards Tour but I did not show up.Subsequently we met on three different occasions.More than 5 years ago we chatted in the bar in that Indian Reservation Casino out side Sandiego during WPBA event.Our recent meetings in Las Vegas were very brief for a minute or two. I am ugly looking old man and does not want to post my photo.I do not want to post my real name on the internet.Cheers

I do remember one player not showing up for the Nine Ball. Shame on you.
And you couldn't be any uglier than me and I put my photo on here.

You must be hiding from the law. lol

 

[jay helfert]

You can ask Tang how Phil plays, I think they played quite a bit a week or two ago for some decent amount. I think they played even but the only way Phil could hang with Tang even is because Tang is out of stroke. I normally spot Phil a ball or two but since I rarely get to play anymore he played me even the last time we played and beat me. If we ever end up in the same poolhall I will make a game with you and play.

Wayne

So you would play "out of stroke" Tang even then? I wanna see this. And if Phil "hangs" with Tang I want no part of him.

If either one of you would like to play Tang a 1K match, I believe I can arrange it.

 

[jay helfert]

i used to play at 6th and western in the early 70's. with jerry, freddy and hawaiian brian. brian and i went on a mini trip up north and stopped in at your place in bakersfield. you were one of the few that got up and played brian. i was young and enjoyed listening to you and brian talk stories and how you got the name toupee jay. i've always thought you were a class act. seeya at hardtimes someday.
stanton

Thanks Stanton. Brian was giving me 9-7 and I didn't win either. He was a killer in those days. He'd turn that hat around backwards and never miss a ball.

 

[vagabond]

You must be hiding from the law. lol

You are not the first one who said that.Across USA in many pool rooms people thought that I was a con and running away from the Law.By the way I do know how the insides of county jails and prisons look like.cheers

 

[jay helfert]

You are not the first one who said that.Across USA in many pool rooms people thought that I was a con and running away from the Law.By the way I do know how the insides of county jails and prisons look like.cheers

I KNOW YOU D MAN!

 

[gulfportdoc]

Jmaie Farrell runs two businesses, one of which is a pizza parlor and he misses a ball every other Wednesday.

I heard through the grapevine that last Wednesday, Jamie didn't miss...

Doc

 

[wayne]

So you would play "out of stroke" Tang even then? I wanna see this. And if Phil "hangs" with Tang I want no part of him.

If either one of you would like to play Tang a 1K match, I believe I can arrange it.

I always play Tang even. However, I only play him cheap. For a high stakes match I would need some weight.

Wayne

 

[satman]

I wouldn't have asked you to bet that high.

Hi Satman,
I lived in Muncie for three months in 1995.I did NOT want to mess with that Jones guy.He wanted to play for 3000 $ a set but I backed off.

You must be talking about Troy. He's like that. He don't like to play at all. Back at that point, I couldn't have played one pocket for more than $20-30 a game. He has the edge at one pocket and we're real close at bank. 8-ball and and 9-ball is kind of a toss up. If there's not much money on the line, I've got the egde in both those games, simply because I love to play. Sam

 

[jay helfert]

I always play Tang even. However, I only play him cheap. For a high stakes match I would need some weight.

Wayne

And you said I was trying to rob somebody?

 

[Voodoo Daddy]

I am not sure about that. I always believed that Louis Viera could make John his HO if John would play him, and Louis works like a sick hours at his shop.

Thats a joke. DiToro was three time player of the year on the Florida tour and tour champion as well. I know Luis for a long time, he works hard at his bodyshop, he plays pretty sporty and I'm not taking a thing away from him but in John's hayday...Luis didnt have to like it period.

 

[Voodoo Daddy]

If we're talking about "best ever" players with a full time job, unless I'm mistaken, didn't Joe Balsis have a full time job?

Your right Jimmy...Joe was a butcher by trade. My biased opinion of Johnny D. is more of a inside joke between JG-in-Ky and myself, though he really does/did play well for working 40hrs a week!!

 

[vagabond]

I'm not taking a thing away from him but in John's hayday...Luis didnt have to like it period.

Ditoro was good in early 90s and was better than Luis at that time.I think Luis peaked around mid 90s.Am I correct?

 

[vagabond]

You must be talking about Troy. Sam

Yes, I was.He isTamy`s man.

 

[Voodoo Daddy]

Ditoro was good in early 90s and was better than Luis at that time.I think Luis peaked around mid 90s.Am I correct?

John was playing great pool when I met him in 1980, he was a hundred ball runner, played lights out 9-Ball and faired well in tournaments. I was luck enuff to travel with him and Tom Brown in the mid 80's when they were affectionatly known as "Miami Vice". John placed well on the Florida tour for many years until he started working the Seminole 10-Ball tour as a TD...which is no walk in the park.