"There's always a shot" - true or false?

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Blackballed - if I was feelin CRAZY i may have jacked up drilled the cue and maybe pocket the 9 - drawin back into it - doubt it cause thats not even close to a good idea but if Im feelin desperate enough
 
Well, if you are gonna go around mad at your money, then just surrender and play the next game. If you want a chance to win (pretty slim tho), I think my option is the best.
 
yeah it is a very good option - sometimes when Im at the end of my rope and gettin frustrated I throw in the towel by doing some JACKA$$ shot - I know its wrong.
 
TheOne said:
I've always lived by the saying: "there's always a shot".

Does everyone agree that this is true or can you think of any situation where there is "no shot" (to either get safe or make a ball)?

Well, I've seen Efren have to take a foul and I don't
call that a shot.
 
TheOne said:
I've always lived by the saying: "there's always a shot".

Does everyone agree that this is true or can you think of any situation where there is "no shot" (to either get safe or make a ball)?
the only time there is no shot is when one puts themself in that situation...or an opponent does
 
TheOne said:
I've always lived by the saying: "there's always a shot".

Does everyone agree that this is true or can you think of any situation where there is "no shot" (to either get safe or make a ball)?

Clearly there are situations on a table where you have all but lost the game save for a miracle or extreme incompetence from your opponent.

But in the great majority of situations I do think there is always a shot, and that believing that is very valuable as a player.

In my earlier playing years I didn't see it this way. When the balls ran badly I would begin to feel that the game was treating me unfairly. This would cause me to play poor shots or attempt hard low percentage shots. And the bad runs, unlucky kiss outs etc would continue.

Later I began to believe that if I thought hard and clear and executed with skill and focus that I could climb out of any position. Even when the odds were 90-10 against me in a situation, instead of taking a wild shot, I'd focus on it, look for ways to improve my chances of getting a bit of good fortune, execute with a clear intention....and amazingly, a lot of times the luck either comes on that shot or a shot or two later something weird happens to the opponent's position that puts me back in with a chance.

So the moral is to never give up. Play at 100% on each shot and look for the best shots to play. The player who works smarter and harder at the table almost always gets the end result.

Smartness here includes your accumulated skill and knowledge of the game. So a C level player, no matter how hard he works, does not have the knowledge to make his work valuable enough against a much higher rated player.

So what TheOne is saying, I feel is a very important factor in mental approach. There is a shot there on the table that needs to be found. Find that shot and execute it well. Do this and nearly always the opponent will have to dig pretty deep to finish the frame.

Have you ever noticed how when you play a better player that the finishing patterns often seem to play out tricky, but against a mug you seem to get a lot of easy outs?
 
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I always think there is a shot, other than extreme situations, like where they hang the 8 in 8ball and I am frozen to one of my balls with no way to get to any of mine or behind them.
 
What A Hook

Yeah I didnt even think of that - man it would be harder to get hooked like that on the 9 than it would be to get out of that hook.
 
catscradle said:
It's kind of like the saying "does a tree falling make a sound if nobody is there to hear it?", "is a shot always there if there is nobody there to execute it?"


Sorry, wrong saying. It's more like the saying "is man always wrong if there is no woman to hear him speak":D
 
TheOne said:
I've always lived by the saying: "there's always a shot".

Does everyone agree that this is true or can you think of any situation where there is "no shot" (to either get safe or make a ball)?

It happens in 8-ball, but very rarely. It's what the stalemate rule is often (if it can be called 'often') used.

Also, somewhere recently I posted a 9-ball shot that was left after ... I missed and scratched or my opponent missed and scratched. I can't recall if I hit it or he did, but the long and short is that the lowest ball hung in the pocket, and another ball froze on it such that you couldn't hit the lowest ball with ball in hand.

Something like this:

CueTable Help




Fred
 
Cornerman said:
It happens in 8-ball, but very rarely. It's what the stalemate rule is often (if it can be called 'often') used.

Also, somewhere recently I posted a 9-ball shot that was left after ... I missed and scratched or my opponent missed and scratched. I can't recall if I hit it or he did, but the long and short is that the lowest ball hung in the pocket, and another ball froze on it such that you couldn't hit the lowest ball with ball in hand.

Something like this:

CueTable Help




Fred


Hi Fred, good post but maybe I should have clarified something, in the UK this type of position would be a re-rack, and position where you can't make a legal shot (eg the ball wont fit) is a re-rack (or it used to be lol)
 
TheOne said:
Hi Fred, good post but maybe I should have clarified something, in the UK this type of position would be a re-rack, and position where you can't make a legal shot (eg the ball wont fit) is a re-rack (or it used to be lol)
At nine ball, the three foul rule comes in, so the game will end soon without a rerack. But I thought in the UK you got two visits after a foul. Aren't you allowed to move things around with your first shot?
 
Even if you can't make a legal hit, there is always the option to give up ball and hand to tie up a few balls. Obviously not best idea if there are other options, but it can work as a last resort.

I saw Nik Van Den Berg do this once, it didn't work out for him though.
 
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