There's Hope!!!

I wouldn't be surprised if Bernie was contacted by the IPT about his comments here on AZ.

Bernie realized that he will not continue on the tour or win in qualifiers. He has ZERO to gain from the IPT in the future other than the love of the sport from a player/fan perspective. So, he started openly criticizing the IPT on this forum. Then, all of a sudden, he does a 180. He might be annoying, but he's not a psycho.

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the IPT told him to STFU on the forums by threatening him with his $5,000. Either openly, or implied. Perhaps Bernie realized himself that biting the hand before it feeds him is a bad idea...

No matter what, I'm certain there was communication to him about his comments online by the IPT.

Remember, these guys think they're like real sports. If an NFL player publicly speaks negatively about refs, the league, etc...they get fined.

However, unlike real sports, the IPT considers their players as contestants when it comes to payment, but considers them employees when it comes to duties. That's convenient.
 
And he says "Chiago is a go..." What a joke!! I think all of the players should show up and corner him and just flat-out refuse to play unless they are paid right there on the spot. And, I would make sure that Billiards Digest, Inside Pool Magazine and the Chicago Tribune are All there to report on it. I'm sure some of the local TV stations that do investigative reporting might find KTs latest scam very interesting too. He is messing with alot of people's careers here...not just peddling some crock of shit book about natural cures!!

Southpaw
 
rackmsuckr said:
I guess the reference about other gazillionaires was to show that they all had glitches in starting up and growth...anyway that is my take on it.

Sorry Linda, KT only wishes he was in the same league with Trump, Diller, Gates, or Buffett. Not even close.

KT name doesn't rate being in the same paragraph as any of them. He hasn't the money, education, self-respect, admiration or class of any of them.
KT is nothing but a very successful predator. If he was in their class money wise and wanted to continue the IPT, he would have paid the monies that he owes to the players from his own pocket. I don't believe that he has any formalized education, let alone an advanced Ivy league one. What major charitable foundations for the sick or underpriviledged has he founded?

No, I doubt that he would be found speaking at major universities or business conferences, and would not even be invited to the same social clubs any the others.

KT is simply a better dressed, higher incomed, predator, nothing more than the phoney Wizard behind the "cyber curtain".
 
Da Poet said:
First I want to say that anytime someone who owes you money returns your call, Email, whatever, it's a hopeful sign.

I don't blame folks for being angry and posting their frustrations with the non payment issue, but since there are people waiting for checks who view and use this forum, I think name calling and reckless negative speculation is disrepectful to those IPT players and serves no constructive purpose.

I think the players who post here deserve all the respect and support we can give them.

Rackmsuckr, did you forward my earlier post to the big guy? Yeah, that interest idea should have gotten his attention! No wonder he recommended not paying attention to forums! lol

I still think the prompt response from Mr.Trudeau is positive though. I am more hopeful after hearing it.:)

Good luck!

Da Poet

Yes, it was your thread! Thanks, DaPoet! :p
 
Deadon said:
Unless its addressed personally to Linda and contains answers to specific questions, good bet its automated or staffed and giving stock responses. Undoubtedly they are getting a bunch of emails. The immediate response would seem quite odd and suspecious to me, especially with the hype.

Do you really think that was automated? This was to his personal email address and I don't think anyone else that I know of has it. I specifically asked about Chicago and he answered that. I would never hire a staffer with those email skills, lol. :p It was definitely him and he was in a hurry.
 
KT has no personal phone numbers or addresses publicly available.

No VIP on Earth does. These are generic and they lead to secretaries or assistants.

You can find your State Senator's website, do you believe that's their real email address? Not a chance.

If you want KT's number, you'll need to steal Deno's cell phone.
 
Jerry Forsyth said:
Linda,

Come on, come clean. That was a phony email reply, right? KT is too intelligent to spell words incorrectly and not capitalize the names of folks he respects. The sentence construction does not sound like him at all.

-Jerry

Wow, I tell the truth and now I am a liar? Come on yourself. I knew I would open myself up to ridicule, but never thought others would stoop so low. :(
 
Timberly said:
I'm sure KT has an assistant or mgr or someone to check his email... if Deno does (he told me so) then I know that KT does. I'm sure whoever has that lovely job has been given a script of what to say. They probably just change some words around every once in awhile so that if people compare emails, they won't have the exact same cookie cutter letter.

Again, people, it was not his IPT address, where I know they do have staffers answering the emails with pat answers. This was his own personal address. Sheesh!

And it DOES sound like him, with all the exclamation points. That smiley was the script that they use on this forum to make a graphical smiley, but when I pasted it here, it turned into the picture.
 
Bola Ocho said:
KT has no personal phone numbers or addresses publicly available.

No VIP on Earth does. These are generic and they lead to secretaries or assistants.

You can find your State Senator's website, do you believe that's their real email address? Not a chance.

If you want KT's number, you'll need to steal Deno's cell phone.

Who said I got it through a public source? ;)
 
Well ...

It's Wednesday, lets just wait the week out for the 'Big Announcement' which is suppose to be positive, that's not long ...
 
rackmsuckr said:
Wow, I tell the truth and now I am a liar? Come on yourself. I knew I would open myself up to ridicule, but never thought others would stoop so low. :(

Linda, Jerry wasn't ridiculing you....he was pointing out that he thinks someone other than KT wrote that. He simply pointed it out in a somewhat facetious, very dry sense of humor way. ;)
 
Timberly said:
Linda, Jerry wasn't ridiculing you....he was pointing out that he thinks someone other than KT wrote that. He simply pointed it out in a somewhat facetious, very dry sense of humor way. ;)

Well, he went on to explain why he thought it was me writing it and I certainly don't write that way either! He called it a phony email reply and I took that to mean he thought I fabricated it. :mad:
 
I wrote a letter to Santa Claus one time and he wrote me back. It was a pretty fast response too considering it had to come from the North Pole. Sorry for the sarcasm here, but I think the players have as much of a chance of getting paid as they do meeting ole St. Nick himself. KT is stalling....plain and simple. I know alot of the players on the IPT and it sucks b/c alot of them have had to scuffle around for a long time to earn a living in this sport and then this CLOWN comes along and makes all these big promises and gets their hopes up and then pulls this crap. I wish I had his personal email address!!!!

Southpaw
 
The part of the email I particularly enjoyed was "No dramas". Nice one Kevin, thanks for the laugh !

As far as KT being more like Jim Bakker, that would explain why I saw him pitching something on an infomercial with Tammy Faye. :rolleyes:

Dave
 
rackmsuckr said:
Do you really think that was automated? This was to his personal email address and I don't think anyone else that I know of has it. I specifically asked about Chicago and he answered that. I would never hire a staffer with those email skills, lol. :p It was definitely him and he was in a hurry.

It did read like something he might say to me as well. Mostly bullsh-t, with a positive spin. Like someone buying time.
 
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jay helfert said:
It did read like something he might say to me as well. Mostly bullsh-t, with a positive spin. Like someone buying time.

If he was dealing with Organised Crime he would have been hanging upside-down in a meat locker.:eek: Hey maybe the players can get together and lay off their debt from KT on the Mafia? Ten cents on the dollar and the knowledge that this guy is "gonna get squeezed" is a nice thought.

Nick
 
jay helfert said:
It did read like something he might say to me as well. Mostly bullsh-t, with a positive spin. Like someone buying time.

KT's not buying time, he should pay time. If it took you/Jay what 5 weeks or so to get 5K divide that by 3 mil and everyone will be dead long before its payback time. I just looked through all the pictures from the IPT event in Reno, the players etc. put allot of effort into being there, ya gotta wonder even if the players get paid, will they be able to focus knowing that the samo situation may be on the horizon?
 
rackmsuckr said:
I just emailed my buddy, Kevin Trudeau

I too sent an email directly to my buddy Kevin asking if we should be concerned about getting paid. Here's his response:

This is very funny to me. Ha Ha. The pool world is notorious for charlatans, promoters who don’t pay, and promises that aren’t kept. In my world of business, when a businessman tells me he’s going to do something and we shake hands, that means it’s going to happen. In the world of pool, when someone says they are going to do something it means he’s probably going to rob you! Ha Ha Ha Ha I’m joking of course, but there is a running line in pool that goes, “Winning the tournament was easy. Getting paid is the hard part!” Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.

I find it amusing that so many players are concerned with actually getting a check from a tournament. Imagine if I put on a tournament and didn’t
pay the players. I get enough criticism in the press. That’s all I would need is some more! Ha, ha. I write this with a big smile on my face because it is so amusing to me that players are concerned about getting paid. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha! But to put all the fears at rest, when I had my first tournament with LoreeJon Jones and Mike Sigel I decided to bring out the money in cash - $150,000.00 in cash money and put it so that everyone could see that Mike actually got the money! And didn't everybody see the pictures of Efren holding his cool half million cash? Of course, right after the tournament since Efren and I are friends I said, “Eff, I know you probably don’t want to carry this money around, so why don't I send you a check later.” Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha..

So, to make sure that the reputation of pool is actually enhanced from its previous dubious, less than stellar reputation, all the players at IPT events will be paid at the end of each round. We are working out the details and logistics, but the bottom line is when a player comes to the event, and if they lose and are knocked out of the tournament, the next day they will be able to walk into the cashier’s office and get a check for their tournament winnings. This is very exciting! Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha, Ha, ha!
 
Geeze folks, why did Rackmsuckr just have to defend her judgement and integrity here over whether she received a real Email or not?

Maybe the reason is that folks who are hopelessly cynical about the situation are just hopelessly cynical about everything and don't know when to stop.


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rackmsuckr said:
Barry Diller...warren buffet...donald trump...bill gates..and the list goes on..do not read internet forums.

How does he know? MOST of the people in the world who know who KT is think he's a crackpot. I would actually be quite surprised if Bill Gates didn't read a forum or two from time to time. A forum is just a method of communication. What is being written in this forum is being said in pool rooms across the world, so his attempt to isolate this to a "forum discussion" is a bit humorous.

How many times has KT gone out of his way to say, "he doesn't read internet forums"? Of course he reads them. Otherwise, he wouldn't use this tactic to discredit anything that's said in them every chance he gets. We know Deno reads the forum so, even if KT doesn't read it himself, the information is getting back to him from someone in his organization. The fact is, he made promises that he didn't keep. Period. Now no one is supposed to question that? 200 people are owed money and all he can say is, "does Bill Gates read internet forums?" In the words of Sho 'Nuff, The Shogun of Harlem ... "Nigga, Please!"
 
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