Therese vs. Mercedes

Fast Eddie,

My friend. I appreciate your opinion and you know I respect it. But I go back to the human equation. You maybe underestimating Mercedes. And head to head a lot of things can happen. Remember in Louisville in the a.m. when sweat was dripping off our face. It had to be 90 degrees in there excluding the slate! I kicked your a**. Wouldn't you say that was a fluke? Ha Ha

I'd still like to see the best 3c woman in the world against the best 3c U.S. woman play.

Will I see you there? Talk is cheap Mr. Fast Eddie. LOL
 
Maldito said;" Quote: How do you know Therese has no heart ????

Me: It was inappropriate of me to say that about anyone. I can't judge what is in a person's heart. I apologize to Therese.

I still would like to see this match go forward. Maybe these two talented women can have exhibition matches around the U.S?

What do you think Maldito?
 
Maldito said;" Quote: How do you know Therese has no heart ????

Me: It was inappropriate of me to say that about anyone. I can't judge what is in a person's heart. I apologize to Therese.

I still would like to see this match go forward. Maybe these two talented women can have exhibition matches around the U.S?

What do you think Maldito?

Glad you appologized to Therese - of course i would like to see a match up
I think there are quite a few women listed on Therese's site that would be worthy opponents.
 
I agree Maldito. I hope there will be a women's division World Cup in Las Vegas too. There sure are a lot of talented women in 3C.
 
I have sent a proposal to the USBA to help facilitate exhibition matches between Therese and Mercedes. These women are good ambassadors for our game. Pool halls can sign up for the exhibition match. They only need to cover a motel bill if applicable and any promotional info to bring in a crowd.

These talented ladies will represent the USBA and any sponsors that comes forward.

To you carom related businesses that would like to help:

email me at trafficcontrolcaroms@yahoo.com (I'm kicking in a donation to get things start). Give tell it hurts.
 
From Therese's website:

Therese vs Mercedes?
Author: Administrator
As our faithful followers know Therese some time Ambassador of the USBA. This is American Billiards Association. Even in America play various ladies Cushions. The current champion, there is G. Mercedes. She has one of 0.700 moyenne. Unfortunately Mercedes Sivas not travel to the World Cup two years ago. Therese Mercedes and thus never hit each other in a match. At present there is a real, and fun to read, debate on the forum of the USBA.

It suggests that these two women it out against each other to take. Want to read the discussion? click on this link

We also hope that the ladies actually come across each other can take, not only is it a good promotion for the women's three-cushion. But also a good showdown.

Incidentally, the comparison between Therese and Mercedes already made a pitt-bull and a chihuahua ... The question is, who = who?
 

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LOL all you guys are crazy!

of course therese, on the slow boat to china, would be the victor..
of course the lesser player with heart, determination... yadda yadda CAN win but let's face it.. not as likely when the better player is nearly 50% better.
but, with the sets format it starts to level the playing field a little. anyways, bet what you guys want but....

i say use this dastardly duo b/w bill and steve to promote the game some how. let's live stream it and get people watching!! this should be a precursor to the wc or nats like somebody suggested. i think bill and steve should split their travel expenses and then bet whatever they want.

p.s. if you want to pay my travel expenses i'll come live stream it for free!! if it's around the world cup tournament i'll be there anyways so mabye we can work it out for that timing.

..... check out my new site!! www.caromcorner.com
 
Dru- Very Nice Website. you should discuss Live Streaming with Paul [ProfessorQBall] for Valley Forge.

I hope zensteve luck with his attempt to match up Therese and Mercede G.

Its' a shame European and the Latin Community still think USBA as American Billiards Association [ABA] maybe it time for USBA to rename itself ABA
 
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Dru says: "of course therese, on the slow boat to china, would be the victor..
of course the lesser player with heart, determination... yadda yadda CAN win but let's face it.. not as likely when the better player is nearly 50% better."

Me: Next time I see Mercedes she'll hear about this! And here she was so nice to you at the Olhausen Tournament?

Fair weathered friend!
 
We have a Challenge!!!

I received a call from Mazin Shooni. He will meet Therese any time any where and will play to any amount of points she chooses. He is challenging you!

Well Therese? We didn't hear anything from Mercedes.

Mazin is calling you out! You two handle the arrangements and Bill Smith and I can finally place a wager on the match!

Man vs. Women.......U.S. vs. Europe

Let the games begin!
 
Time for a CAHANGE!

I received a call from Mazin Shooni. He will meet Therese any time any where and will play to any amount of points she chooses. He is challenging you!

Well Therese? We didn't hear anything from Mercedes.

Mazin is calling you out! You two handle the arrangements and Bill Smith and I can finally place a wager on the match!

Man vs. Women.......U.S. vs. Europe

Let the games begin!

Steve; You remind me of Andy Kaufman, maybe we can get a wrestling ring for them too. Are you sure you didn't work in a carnival at one time. you make a good BARKER!

One thing I am sure of, you have not done much GAMBLING in your life, it takes TWO people to have a WAGER, not just BARKING we "FINALLY have a bet", but just to appease you, I'll let you lay me the same odds I offered you. You take Mazin and lay me 8-5 on the money, as long as they play MORE than 1 game, and they can play 15 pts., 20 pts., 25 pts., ect..ect.

I really do think your trying to stimulate and support 3 cushion billiards in the US, but this "Barnum & Baily" approach IMHO is the wrong avenue. How many pool players in this country do you think know who Therese, Mercedes, or even Mazin Shooni is?, maybe 2% if that. This is the pool where we ALL will draw NEW players from, 98% of all 3 cushion players come from a pocket billiards background, you just don't grab any SMUCK off the street and ask if they want to learn 3 cush, they'll look at you like you're from planet MONGO!

What's needed in 3 cushion is QUALIFIED people to educate pool players in the rooms ACROSS the country where a billiard table is available in thier local room. I proposed this type of idea 25 years ago when I changed my style of game to the ABA in an open letter in the Billiards Digest. Naturally the usual answers, NO money, NO time to devote, NO sponsers, same old BS, you know.

What Paul Frankel is doing is a start with the matches, what also is needed at that venue is to have those players contribute information in the form of clinics inbetween the matches to TEACH the game to newcomers not just try to hightlight thier talents. In this day and age people still like to be entertained, but mostly with the high tech age, people really want to be INFORMED, and that's what's needed to create NEW players, not side show acts!

As I've become Pre-Golden age, I realize we really don't live forever and the clock is ticking. So here is My proposal to Anyone, group or room owner where 3 cushion billiards tables are present. I'll be available for EDUCATIONAL clinics with at least 6 students for NO FEE, Just my EXPENSES PAID, Air Fare, Ground Transportation, Lodging and Food.

Let's see if we have any REALLY concerned supporter's for this Facinating, captivating, and sadly to say a declining game!

My contact info is:
Bill Smith "Mr3Cushion"
mr3cushion@live.com
http://mr3cushion.com
(321) 613-3269
 
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Gambler....Barker...Hmmm...there is a difference? I've been around pool halls my whole life. And there is a difference? Mr. 3Cushion, it's your story, you tell it any way you want!

But it's not about us. I agree with 95% of everything you said. The 5 % difference is in the "magic bullet theory" you subscribe to. Several tactics need to be imployed simultaneously. The game needs to be promoted on many fronts. And the front you are an expert at is teaching. I will not diminish the importance of that. Whether you appreciate my contributions or tactics is not really relevant is it?

All I know is your offer to teach is a wonderful thing and I wish you the best.
 
Taking things WAY TOO PERSONAL!

Gambler....Barker...Hmmm...there is a difference? I've been around pool halls my whole life. And there is a difference? Mr. 3Cushion, it's your story, you tell it any way you want!

But it's not about us. I agree with 95% of everything you said. The 5 % difference is in the "magic bullet theory" you subscribe to. Several tactics need to be imployed simultaneously. The game needs to be promoted on many fronts. And the front you are an expert at is teaching. I will not diminish the importance of that. Whether you appreciate my contributions or tactics is not really relevant is it?

All I know is your offer to teach is a wonderful thing and I wish you the best.

Steve; YOU really need to stop taking other posters opinions as a PERSONAL attack against YOU, you did the same thing with Drew when he disagreed with you assessment of the T.K. vs M.G. match.

I'm not trying prod you into any kind of WAGER you may feel you would like to make, you brought the subject up AGAIN!

The REAL definition of GAMBLING is UNCERTAINTY! We can flip a coin for that matter!

Like I said; I made an offer to help, if you REALLY do too, line something up!

Bill Smith "Mr3Cushion"
 
Opps....Bill....I forgot about your bet...sorry.... I will contemplate your offer.






Steve"The Barker" Anderzen
 
Personal attack? I was laughing as I was typing it. Please don't misinterprete. You had to be talking to Shylock Shovak to get that mis-impression.
 
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As I've become Pre-Golden age, I realize we really don't live forever and the clock is ticking. So her is My proposal to Anyone, group or room owner where 3 cushion billiards tables are present. I'll be available for EDUCATIONAL clinics with at least 6 students for NO FEE, Just my EXPENSES PAID, Air Fare, Ground Transportation, Lodging and Food.

Let's see if we have any REALLY concerned supporter's for this Facinating, captivating, and sadly to say a declining game!

My contact info is:
Bill Smith "Mr3Cushion"
mr3cushion@live.com
http://mr3cushion.com
(321) 613-3269

Bill, if this happens in southwest MI (within a 100 mile radius of Grand Rapids), I'll donate my time, equipment and fuel cost to live stream (if internet connection is available) or record for later broadcast.

Perhaps 3 stops in this area, Niles, Grand Rapids and Lansing with your expenses being split between the 3 rooms.

I'd be willing to travel further, within a 8 hour drive, but would need to have my expenses covered. Only expenses are fuel and lodging.

Steve Elzinga
 
Bill, if this happens in southwest MI (within a 100 mile radius of Grand Rapids), I'll donate my time, equipment and fuel cost to live stream (if internet connection is available) or record for later broadcast.

Perhaps 3 stops in this area, Niles, Grand Rapids and Lansing with your expenses being split between the 3 rooms.

I'd be willing to travel further, within a 8 hour drive, but would need to have my expenses covered. Only expenses are fuel and lodging.

Steve Elzinga

Thats the sprit; More than HAPPY to have you aboard Steve!

Bill Smith "Mr3Cushion"
 
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