Excellent post, thanks for explaining the shot you had made, and for making it very understandable!
This guy really makes me sick
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this shot pisses me off more,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiQwpuL4tH8
especially because he took 7 seconds to come with it, WTF?? honestly, it was the only shot as all the lanes appear to be blocked for a 1,2,3,4 rail shot.
"I got lucky"....my ass, LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiQwpuL4tH8
especially because he took 7 seconds to come with it, WTF?? honestly, it was the only shot as all the lanes appear to be blocked for a 1,2,3,4 rail shot.
"I got lucky"....my ass, LOL
He got lucky
Do you mean me or Efren?:wink:
My Dad's advice: 'There's always a shot...you just have to find it.'
Anyone shooting & making a 3 rail shot on a well used table is a bit 'lucky'. I've been quite lucky over the years as I've shot 3 rail shots many, many, times.
Good players quite often make thier own good 'luck'. As I said I have not been able to make the shot again but I can hit the ball on the correct side & send it to the rail.
Jack Nicklaus has never been able to duplicate his famous putt in the '86 Masters but both Jack & I made it when it counted. Some people can just 'bear' down, get it 'b e a r' down & get it done when it counts. Those types of players are called 'gamers'. Some others are great practice players & choke when it really counts.
My addition to my Dad's advice is, 'if you don't look for 'em...you won't find 'em, if don't find 'em...you won't shoot 'em, & if you don't shoot...you won't make 'em.
Best Wishes to All,
this shot pisses me off more,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiQwpuL4tH8
especially because he took 7 seconds to come with it, WTF?? honestly, it was the only shot as all the lanes appear to be blocked for a 1,2,3,4 rail shot.
"I got lucky"....my ass, LOL
This is going to start sounding like I'm bragging but I'm not. I'm just trying to be encouraging. If I can do it, then you can do it.
I have shot shots from off of the side pocket points but not that one until it was posted here a little while back. I went to the table & set it up & shot it. I missed it the 1st. time to the short rail side. Then I hit the long rail like Efren but I missed the ball. The 3rd. attempt I made it 'better' than Efren, because I went straight into the ball without hitting the rail.
I probably might have tried going to the long rail with a ton of low inside english for a single rail kick before I would have ever tried that shot. Especially given the circumstances. But...he saw that as better.
It should me that it can certainly be done & then I quickly learned that I can do it. If I can do it , 'you' can do it. We can 'all' do it. It's just a shot.
The question is, can we see it & decide to shoot in less than 10 second's like Efren did. I think the answer is no.
Best Wishes to All,
Geez already.
This Efrem guy can't play at all. If this doesn't make you laugh, not smile, then you need a checku...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uor0uM5x4WU
This Efrem guy can't play at all. If this doesn't make you laugh, not smile, then you need a checku...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uor0uM5x4WU
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You are exactly right.I am very happy I had the opportunity to see the worlds greatest pool player in live action at the USOpen and Derby City.
You are exactly right.I am very happy I had the opportunity to see the worlds greatest pool player in live action at the USOpen and Derby City.
Actually Rick, I agree with you on the "not impossible" part. For some reason, I'm enamored with "off the point" shots, and I practice them. I can't tell you how many times I kicked using an "off the point" shot in the game of one pocket (or even in 14.1) to hit the opposite side of the pack to make a dead ball, and it saved my bacon. Obviously, this shot is a point-purpose shot, and needs to be used sparingly, because the penalties are pretty severe if you don't hit it right.
But a little practice goes a long way to judge these "off the point" shots. And yes, you need to hit a couple on a new/unfamiliar table to get an idea of how the points are reacting. One thing's for sure, you can't baby the shot -- a firm stroke to "flatten" the point really helps in making the rebound of the cue ball a lot more predictable.
-Sean
There is a reason why Efren is Efren and we are NOT! Like others on here I've made some amazing shots (once kicked in cleanly four balls in a row in a 9-Ball game!) but I didn't do it on the biggest stages in televised matches against great players, where there is PRESSURE in spades.
What I've always loved about Efren is how unflappable he is. You will not see him complain when he gets a bad roll. He treats every shot like a new challenge and a puzzle that he must figure out the answer to. So many players will give up when faced with shots like that. I see it all the time, they will shake their head and complain about their bad luck. But not Efren. He WILL find a way out or create one!
I agree with Richie, making that shot is not about using the Diamond system. It's all about having a feel for how he needs to hit the ball, correct speed, english, etc. You can't 'map' that shot, you must 'feel' it! Hat's off to our resident pool genius Efren "Bata" Reyes!
What I've always loved about Efren is how unflappable he is. You will not see him complain when he gets a bad roll. He treats every shot like a new challenge and a puzzle that he must figure out the answer to. So many players will give up when faced with shots like that. I see it all the time, they will shake their head and complain about their bad luck. But not Efren. He WILL find a way out or create one!
I agree with Richie, making that shot is not about using the Diamond system. It's all about having a feel for how he needs to hit the ball, correct speed, english, etc. You can't 'map' that shot, you must 'feel' it! Hat's off to our resident pool genius Efren "Bata" Reyes!
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I have as well, in one hole back to the oppsite corner. The issue I have is when i have shot that shot, It takes me much longer than 7 seconds!!!
For sure its a legitimate shot he played. He hit it so perfect he made contact with the rail where the blocker ball (the 8??) is to be sure he didnt hit it either. WOWI think on shimmed sides its much harder for that ball to go (shot in the video). These days with extended cushions that shot is harder, the reason I say that is I dont see that scratch happen as often as I did 15-20 years ago. Used to happen more often as I recall, hit the point nd the ball flies into the corner(like in the video) 100mph. I aint seen that in a long time.
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Many shots he has made make me scratch my head...guys nickname fits him well.
I've made that shot!
I've made that shot,..... a few times matter of fact. What is interesting is watching Efren size-up the shot. He looked at it twice. To those who think he is "lucky", I respectfully disagree ! That 2-ball was tight going by.
The first shot you showed of Efren's talents was much more challenging ! Always like seeing that shot ! :grin:
Efren is pure talent and nothing else when it comes to those "magical" shots.
I've made that shot,..... a few times matter of fact. What is interesting is watching Efren size-up the shot. He looked at it twice. To those who think he is "lucky", I respectfully disagree ! That 2-ball was tight going by.
The first shot you showed of Efren's talents was much more challenging ! Always like seeing that shot ! :grin:
Efren is pure talent and nothing else when it comes to those "magical" shots.