You’re tough action, my friend. I’ll be back at Salt City Billiards in August... I hope you’ve been developing your 1pkt game, because I’ll be looking to bust you $5 at a time.
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You’re tough action, my friend. I’ll be back at Salt City Billiards in August... I hope you’ve been developing your 1pkt game, because I’ll be looking to bust you $5 at a time.
I have hustled and been hustled, think hustlers have hurt the game(myself included). Gambling vs hustling are quite a bit different. In golf sandbaggers are considered cheats, why not in pool?
Just a random thought, noticing how much pool has died and all.
Just a random thought, noticing how much pool has died and all.
I know one damn thing: If I'm three sets ahead, and I know I've got the best of the game, I'll be glad to double up, on one condition: If the other player is willing to post two sets worth of cash up front.
What's been left unsaid in this conversation is that too many of those "let's double the bet" players are playing on ass, or at best firing one more barrel in order to get a chance at going deep into your pocket while risking very little (or nothing) more themselves. Fortunately you can smell most of those "high rollers" a mile away.
Obviously here I'm not talking about players with good reputations for being willing to go off and paying off the last set, but in most pool rooms these days there aren't many players like that.
As for the Big Score stuff, the best way to get into that without all the aggra of macho manning the guy who's ahead is very simple: Instead of races, put up ALL the money you're willing to lose, and play a FREEZE OUT for the whole wad.
And if both players agree, you can set a time limit on the match, with the appropriate proportion of the stake being given to the player who's ahead when the time expires. If the prop is 10 games ahead for $1000, then if a player is 7 games ahead at the gun, he gets $700. And so on.
That takes the hustling BS out of the story, and lets the matter be settled by the simple factors of skill and heart.
Or as the saying goes, "Money talks and bullshit walks."
What's been left unsaid in this conversation is that too many of those "let's double the bet" players are playing on ass, or at best firing one more barrel in order to get a chance at going deep into your pocket while risking very little (or nothing) more themselves. Fortunately you can smell most of those "high rollers" a mile away.
Obviously here I'm not talking about players with good reputations for being willing to go off and paying off the last set, but in most pool rooms these days there aren't many players like that.
As for the Big Score stuff, the best way to get into that without all the aggra of macho manning the guy who's ahead is very simple: Instead of races, put up ALL the money you're willing to lose, and play a FREEZE OUT for the whole wad.
And if both players agree, you can set a time limit on the match, with the appropriate proportion of the stake being given to the player who's ahead when the time expires. If the prop is 10 games ahead for $1000, then if a player is 7 games ahead at the gun, he gets $700. And so on.
That takes the hustling BS out of the story, and lets the matter be settled by the simple factors of skill and heart.
Or as the saying goes, "Money talks and bullshit walks."
Really all that is occurring we have two different world views
On the one hand we have a voice from people who have won
large amounts of money playing pool
And on the other hand we have people who never have won much money
,and never will, lecturing the big winners on how to do it,instead of learning
from the winners
On the one hand we have a voice from people who have won
large amounts of money playing pool
And on the other hand we have people who never have won much money
,and never will, lecturing the big winners on how to do it,instead of learning
from the winners
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I had no idea there were rules about this sort of thing. If I was the winning player and thought, based on the first three games, that the loser could win with a little luck going his way why should I feel obligated to risk 2/3 of my winnings just because he asked me to? If I'm winning, I make the rules. Have none of you really ever had a winning night swing in the other direction?
I'd have to disagree - not many people will lose it all or put it all up at once, but a lot of people will keep going back to their pocket time after time, till it's all gone
Jason
I will bet how much I want and when I want. And if that entails a handful of old men logging in to a forum to criticize it, that's ok with me too. I will somehow learn how to deal with it.
I hope it is just that and no real world kibitzing is taking place.
Hey, I really like the idea of proposing to freeze out the lower amount that each opponent is willing to lose and play a long race for all the money. I'm going to propose that next time a guy I know that always wants to only lose only $20 max if he loses the first set. (But if he wins the first set, he will gladly play much longer, on MY money).
And just when it's becoming crystal clear that American pool players are almost non-existent in tournaments being played around the world, and even more American tourna.tournaments being dominated by foreign pool players, one can't help but wonder if it isn't because of the American pool players mentality that would rather place more importance on nickel and diming other fish pool players in pool rooms around the country, and refer to that skill set as a sign of being a truly great pool player who measures success based on how much the opponents are willing to lose while gambling, but I guess it beats needing a job, and the real tourna.tournament players will always be thanking you for your entry fee contributions at the prize money payouts, as 99% of you gamblers will never pose a threat to the top money finishers, and yes, most of them are still going to turn down your offers to gamble so you can try getting your entry fees back, and yes, you'll still consider yourselves to be better players because they were AFRAID to get into action with you, which is no big deal as tomorrow you'll be back to grinding out some money from someone else so you can afford to get something to eat....LMAO
Seems like all you guys are trying real hard to have the stupidest post in this thread. Keep up the good work, hopefully a winner will be announced soon.
Jason
I used to gamble on everything or anything. I don't any more except small bets. I only gamble on a sure thing; me. How do I know if you're hiding your speed?
If I'm playing for $20 or $50 a set or game I won't ever double a bet. If I'm ahead the bet stays the same. You lose $50 or $150 you can win it like you lost it. If that makes me a nit I can live with it.
I disagree. Get out the way you got in. Rules should be set prior to gambling match. First and foremost no IOU's. The Winner has no obligation to help the loser. Lost my share, suck it up and move on...Don't enjoy gambling anymore because of the cry babies out there. Play for pride and a drink now.
I'm gonna leave this right here, cause most 9f you posting clearly haven't read it.
Jason
Precisely why I *always* preferred betting by the game and not even bothering playing sets at all, let alone posting everything someone thinks they want to lose. I've busted a few people and it was never playing sets. Not that it can't be done, but for me, it was always by the game.
Does it take longer? Maybe. But there's usually more in your pocket once it's all said and done.
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The truth is nothing to get upset over, there's less than 5 Americans playing in tournaments earning over $30,000 a year, so the American pool players have to scrape together a living somehow, that's why there's a lot of players that don't like the losers to quit with any money still left in their pockets...the winners don't want to have to look for someone else to try a d beat out of money as long as they're playing someone that is still losing, and still has more money....they want it ALL!
i'm confused. if he's got it all wrong, then why was he in action and why were you just watching?
Someone once said "if you're in a serious top action poker game and you can't figure out who the chump is, then it's you".
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