Thoughts on Jump Cues?

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MiscueBlues

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What do you guys think about all the different jump cues out on the market today?

What materials are best?
What tips?

What weight jump cues have you tried, and how do they feel different?

One, two or three piece?

Jump-break or pure jump?

Are there any particularly unique new jump cues on the market right now?

Thanks in advance for all your thoughts!
Yes, I am in the market for a new jump cue :thumbup:
 
For me anytime a C+ or lower draws out a jump cue, I anticipate ball in hand. FWIW, you also need to practice with those things.
 
ctyhntr said:
For me anytime a C+ or lower draws out a jump cue, I anticipate ball in hand. FWIW, you also need to practice with those things.
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I was thinking of starting simple, just jump over a ball straight towards a pocket. Then adding an object ball to try to make the jump, straight on and at different distances. And then maybe adding jump-into-cut shots into the mix.

What are your thoughts on the best way to practice jump shots?
 
Watch U Tube

There are many videos on U Tube showing amazing jump shots with different styles of jump cues. Trick shot artists put in many hours of practice and make incredible shots.

As to equipment, take your pick, purple heart, maple, dymond wood, and other material has been used with good results by competent players.

G10, phenolic, Samsara, Outsville tips are popular choices. Heck, I know a couple of guys who had a tip made out of an 8 Ball. One shooter jumps well and one poorly.

As to who is the best maker of jump cues, that's like trying to find the best cue maker, best shaft or best tip. We all go through an equipment search in an effort to improve. You will too.

Like most things it will take hours of good practice to develop a good technique.
 
I start students out jumping over a pencil...then the skinny end of a shaft, the fat end of the shaft, and then the butt...before moving on to jumping actual balls. It's much easier to jump the edge of the OB, than jump a full ball...especially when you're less than 6 inches from the obstruction. As AK Guy correctly said, it's about technique and lots of practice. :thumbup: There are lots of jump cues out there, but just because something costs hundreds of dollars doesn't make it the best.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

MiscueBlues said:
I was thinking of starting simple, just jump over a ball straight towards a pocket. Then adding an object ball to try to make the jump, straight on and at different distances. And then maybe adding jump-into-cut shots into the mix.

What are your thoughts on the best way to practice jump shots?
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Practice jumping off of a piece of 3x3 inch used cloth until you stop hitting the table. I personally like Lomax jump cues the best. Some others, custom and mass produced work well too.
 
MiscueBlues said:
What do you guys think about all the different jump cues out on the market today?

What materials are best?
What tips?

What weight jump cues have you tried, and how do they feel different?

One, two or three piece?

Jump-break or pure jump?

Are there any particularly unique new jump cues on the market right now?

Thanks in advance for all your thoughts!
Yes, I am in the market for a new jump cue :thumbup:
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If you want a Jump Cue then get a Jump Cue -- If you want a Breaker then get a Break Cue. I find the Break/Jump combo cues are a compromise that do not jump or break as well as dedicated models.

Besides, Good Jump Cues are not that expensive.

Good rolls.
 
I started by placing two balls closer than 1 ball space apart and trying to jump table width wise.

MiscueBlues said:
I was thinking of starting simple, just jump over a ball straight towards a pocket. Then adding an object ball to try to make the jump, straight on and at different distances. And then maybe adding jump-into-cut shots into the mix.

What are your thoughts on the best way to practice jump shots?
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Scott Lee said:
I start students out jumping over a pencil...then the skinny end of a shaft, the fat end of the shaft, and then the butt...before moving on to jumping actual balls. It's much easier to jump the edge of the OB, than jump a full ball...especially when you're less than 6 inches from the obstruction. As AK Guy correctly said, it's about technique and lots of practice. :thumbup: There are lots of jump cues out there, but just because something costs hundreds of dollars doesn't make it the best.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
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Not bashing, I mean this constructively - give your students more credit, I don't think that method is necessary. It took me 30 minutes to learn to jump a full ball and hit the object ball pretty full. I had never touched a jump cue before. You miss the first few but just practicing the stroke maybe 20 times it starts to click.

Actually pocketing balls, playing position, etc takes practice. Just jumping over the ball, even from a few inches a way, takes minutes to learn. This is the primary reason I'm in the "ban jump cues in tournaments" camp. I think it's incredibly silly that I could do that given it took about 1000 times longer to learn how to kick.
 
My thoughts?

Learn how to jump with your full playing cue first.

Then think about jump cues.

What works best? Whichever I happen to be using. I never put a lot of thought into it. But I did, in the old days, practice A LOT.

I only have two. One made in qbout 1992 by Dan Janes, the other a mid-nineties Cobra Professional Jump/Break cue with an awesome curly shaft. Both have hard leather tips of unknown pedigree.

I don't know that there is any magic in my curly maple shaft, but it sure does work nice for me!



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I have tried a wide variety of jump and jump/break cues. In my experience, it is easier to learn the technique by using a dart stroke. I have found that a light jump cue performs better with the dart stroke..

If you prefer to jump with an underhand stroke, I have found a heavier cue to work better.

Having said that, I have always preferred the feel of a single-purpose jump cue. My favorite being the Gulyassy Reaper jump cue. It is ultra light weight, and has a variety of lengths. Most comparable may be the Predator Air II.

However, I was recently turned onto the Pure X jump/break. I've never been a fan of using a jump/break cue for jumping, as they typically aren't balanced well. I can certainly tell you that isn't the case with the Pure X. It is a 4 piece design and, when shortened for jumping, is very light weight. The shaft is 14 mm, which is a little thick for my taste, but it isn't that difficult to get used to. What is difficult to get used to is how easily it jumps. I have not put in enough practice with it yet to have confidence in it, as it often jumps much higher/longer than what I'm used to. On the other hand, it jumps very easily in the full-length configuration as well. Best of all, it is an awesome break cue. I would highly recommend it.

If you don't want to spend a lot, start out with an Elite or Players jump cue. Or, the Poison VX jumps quite nicely, and they are only $76.
 
MiscueBlues said:
What do you guys think about all the different jump cues out on the market today?

What materials are best?
What tips?

What weight jump cues have you tried, and how do they feel different?

One, two or three piece?

Jump-break or pure jump?

Are there any particularly unique new jump cues on the market right now?

Thanks in advance for all your thoughts!
Yes, I am in the market for a new jump cue :thumbup:
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cue should be banned imo
 
Agree w Scott's progression.

bad_hit said:
Not bashing, I mean this constructively - give your students more credit, I don't think that method is necessary. It took me 30 minutes to learn to jump a full ball and hit the object ball pretty full. I had never touched a jump cue before. You miss the first few but just practicing the stroke maybe 20 times it starts to click.

Actually pocketing balls, playing position, etc takes practice. Just jumping over the ball, even from a few inches a way, takes minutes to learn. This is the primary reason I'm in the "ban jump cues in tournaments" camp. I think it's incredibly silly that I could do that given it took about 1000 times longer to learn how to kick.
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I don't like modern jump cues, I would like to see the game played more pure, no break sticks either. I do however think that if you are teaching a skill, it is advantageous to grow the ability as Scott is teaching. It is much more positive to the learner as they succeed at each stage and builds confidence. If you need a jump cue, either the Jacoby or Pechauer, my personal preference are great. Full disclosure we are a dealer for both and I will admit the J&J for less is a great deal. Not the same quality, but if you only have a few bucks a valid tool.
 
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bad_hit...What makes you think I don't teach them all those jumps in less than 5 minutes? I do the same thing you do. Every one of the jumps I mentioned, including full ball jumps, can be demonstrated in just a few minutes. What's not true is that anyone can learn to jump in 20 tries. Some people have a greater affinity than others. Teaching someone to jump before they had a repeatable stroke is putting the cart before the horse. I'd have to disagree that learning kicking is 1000x more difficult to learn than jumping. Kicking can be taught quite accurately (I do it all the time). It's learning how to adjust to each table that takes knowledge and experience.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

bad_hit said:
Not bashing, I mean this constructively - give your students more credit, I don't think that method is necessary. It took me 30 minutes to learn to jump a full ball and hit the object ball pretty full. I had never touched a jump cue before. You miss the first few but just practicing the stroke maybe 20 times it starts to click.

Actually pocketing balls, playing position, etc takes practice. Just jumping over the ball, even from a few inches a way, takes minutes to learn. This is the primary reason I'm in the "ban jump cues in tournaments" camp. I think it's incredibly silly that I could do that given it took about 1000 times longer to learn how to kick.
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The best jump cue I've ever had was my Steve Dunkel Carbon Fiber one. My buddy I bought it from really wanted it back so I obliged. Getting my new one with the same specs next Saturday, can't wait. It's like cheating with that bad boy.
 
I learned to jump with a playing cue back in the late 80's. Best jumping cue I've owned was a dedicated jump stick, the lucasi l2000jc. It was great, but I got to where I was doing more jumps with my break cue, and often with the full cue.

I ended up buying another jump cue, a cheap j/j that works fine for me, I'm not as confident in really close jumps as I used to be, but most of the time I think you are better off kicking when you are 2-3" from the blocking ball.

If I'm playing a player that doesn't get out all that often, then I'm more inclined to take a flyer on a close jump.
 
MiscueBlues said:
What do you guys think about all the different jump cues out on the market today?

What materials are best?
What tips?

What weight jump cues have you tried, and how do they feel different?

One, two or three piece?

Jump-break or pure jump?

Are there any particularly unique new jump cues on the market right now?

Thanks in advance for all your thoughts!
Yes, I am in the market for a new jump cue :thumbup:
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I make custom jump cues
41 inches long
11 ounces
13mm tip with a white diamond tip.
Pm me if interested
 
bad_hit said:
Not bashing, I mean this constructively - give your students more credit, I don't think that method is necessary. It took me 30 minutes to learn to jump a full ball and hit the object ball pretty full. I had never touched a jump cue before. You miss the first few but just practicing the stroke maybe 20 times it starts to click.

Actually pocketing balls, playing position, etc takes practice. Just jumping over the ball, even from a few inches a way, takes minutes to learn. This is the primary reason I'm in the "ban jump cues in tournaments" camp. I think it's incredibly silly that I could do that given it took about 1000 times longer to learn how to kick.
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you have to understand thou that not everyone is really a player, some people in his classes im sureare just gf's of guys or vice versa....some people can be also quite unconfident, and also really embarassed by not being able to do something, which could really derail a lesson possibly.....or put the student in a bad upset frame of mind over their public "failure"......

some of us learn wayyyy too easy, some are normal....and some people just dont get along with the game at all.....look at all the stories of Titanic Thompson, great at everythying....TERRIBLE at pool.....

charles barkleys had lesson with the best on earth flat out no quesions asked.......if your ever thinking your having a hard time with your game.....go watch him play golf lol.....
 
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