Time to share... This week's shot will be the long straight in...

The Renfro

The Renfro

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We cover all topics but the forest is made up of trees... Just like the repertoire of shots we have developed as players.... So for this week I propose the long straight in ones.....

I myself am using the SEE system where I align the shadows of the balls and pivot to center with the right bridge length......

I have heard people say aim at the bottoms and the tops of the balls to get true center but what do you do yourself that works????

If we can start with straight ins maybe by the time we get to the hard shots we will all share a vocabulary and understanding.......
 
I can see the center of the CB and the OB, but if I can't make a straght in shot, I study where the OB is going - left or right and move my cue under my chin until it is under the dominant eye/s - it can change on any given day.

When I start to making several straight in shots in a row....I can start playing pool without worrying about my dominant eye/s.

:smile:
 
On long straight shots I aim thru the ball at a point in the pocket.
Once I have that point fixed then I shoot and the ball just gets in the way of the cue ball aimed at that point and gos in.In fact this is how I shoot all long shots. If its not straight I aim at a point on the rail.
Does this make sense the way I described it?
 
True golfer at heart. I don't shoot anything straight.

I line up what would be "straight", then adjust slightly offline one side or the other and add a fraction of side spin and throw it in.

Probably sounds ridiculous.
 
When the long shot has the CB on or very close to a rail too many have their cue elavated more than it needs to be. Johnnyt
 
RRfireblade said:
True golfer at heart. I don't shoot anything straight.

I line up what would be "straight", then adjust slightly offline one side or the other and add a fraction of side spin and thru it in.

Probably sounds ridiculous.
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Not ridiculous. I do that from time to time.
 
measureman said:
Not ridiculous. I do that from time to time.
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Ingrained in me as a golfer, I always decide where its getting started and which side the potential miss is going to be on. Limits the chances to one way. When you try for " straight", you can miss 2 different ways.

I don't like to be surprised. :)
 
RRfireblade said:
True golfer at heart. I don't shoot anything straight.

I line up what would be "straight", then adjust slightly offline one side or the other and add a fraction of side spin and throw it in.

Probably sounds ridiculous.
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I do that with probably 80% of my shots. I think I use to do it more than that but trying to use center a little more often.
 
measureman said:
On long straight shots I aim thru the ball at a point in the pocket.
Once I have that point fixed then I shoot and the ball just gets in the way of the cue ball aimed at that point and gos in.In fact this is how I shoot all long shots. If its not straight I aim at a point on the rail.
Does this make sense the way I described it?
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Makes perfect sense... I am unsure where I heard it but I want to say it was Rempe or Sigel... and I think according to Jay Helfert it was originally from Burns =)
 
RRfireblade said:
True golfer at heart. I don't shoot anything straight.

I line up what would be "straight", then adjust slightly offline one side or the other and add a fraction of side spin and throw it in.

Probably sounds ridiculous.
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Not ridiculous... I was told it was called hedging your bet when I was learning... There are many times I will aim the ball to the short side of a pocket and use english so it finds the center or far side of the pocket... Don't use it on all shots but it can come in handy....

Keep em coming.....
 
if you need any "system" to aim a straight in shot...

aiming is neither your problem nor your solution.
 
Sure softshot I can just get up and spear them in... pick a point and fire away... I use a specific system because I know my percentages go way up doing it the way I do.....

I want to say it was playing off the rail where an old hustler was discussed... Pardon me if it is from another author/book... He said his strategy was simple.. He always let the other guy have shots... But he would leave them long and straight in... If that didn't work He would leave them long straight ins where they had to draw the ball or follow it.....

For many people the long straight ins are the hardest shots on the table..... I was one of those.... And I tried everything to improve my percentages to into the 90s.... While my way works for me we already have other methods being discussed which is what this thread is for..... If you didn't understand that.... no biggie.....
 
The Renfro said:
Sure softshot I can just get up and spear them in... pick a point and fire away... I use a specific system because I know my percentages go way up doing it the way I do.....

I want to say it was playing off the rail where an old hustler was discussed... Pardon me if it is from another author/book... He said his strategy was simple.. He always let the other guy have shots... But he would leave them long and straight in... If that didn't work He would leave them long straight ins where they had to draw the ball or follow it.....

For many people the long straight ins are the hardest shots on the table..... I was one of those.... And I tried everything to improve my percentages to into the 90s.... While my way works for me we already have other methods being discussed which is what this thread is for..... If you didn't understand that.... no biggie.....
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point your cue through the bottom of the CB to the bottom of the OB.. if you still miss the problem is a stroke error

people who have difficulty with long straight shots have STROKE problems...period..

that is the beginning, middle, and end of the conversation..sorry
 
RRfireblade said:
True golfer at heart. I don't shoot anything straight.

I line up what would be "straight", then adjust slightly offline one side or the other and add a fraction of side spin and throw it in.

Probably sounds ridiculous.
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I use to do the same thing. But on long slow roll shots it don't work. Bert kinster has a video that teach's ya how to be accurate enough to place the ob in pocket missing a peace of chalk placed in either corner of the pocket.
P.S don't use kamui chalk in the pockets.
 
And you think everyone on here knows the small ball aim....

Aiming the bed contact point of the cueball thru the bed contact point of the object ball is a system, method, trick or whatever you call it.....

I understand stroke errors likely account for many misses but if that's the case I got a stroke included with the SEE system method I use because I go up 20% over just aiming normally..... No stroke change just a different PSR or System if that's what you wish to call it......

So I think I will leave the book open and allow a few more people to post their chapters.....
 
RRfireblade said:
Ingrained in me as a golfer, I always decide where its getting started and which side the potential miss is going to be on. Limits the chances to one way. When you try for " straight", you can miss 2 different ways.

I don't like to be surprised. :)
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Just curious,,is that RR in your name a Rough Riders jacket by any chance?
 
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Wedge said:
I choke up about 3 inches further up with my back hand. It works...try it. This assumes you don't have to draw the piss out of the shot. Any stroke errors are reduced when you choke up on straight in shots. It works for me consistantly.

Wedge
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Posted from another thread... Never tried this tip... Thanks for sharing Wedge
 
RRfireblade said:
Ingrained in me as a golfer, I always decide where its getting started and which side the potential miss is going to be on. Limits the chances to one way. When you try for " straight", you can miss 2 different ways.

I don't like to be surprised. :)
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not pool related, but have you ever tried slice putting? i monkeyed around with it for a little bit late last year on the practice green, gonna try using it in during play this year. principle is kind of the same.

seems to be some truth in it, i think there's some video's out on the internet from the "secret in the dirt" guy and steve elkington.
 
I've messed around a little with side spin when putting on extreme slopes in order to help hold the line and/or fight the break. Its a tricky concept to apply with a putter and maintain consistancy. Most have a hard enough time staying square thru impact alone. Not something I'd do unless under rare circumstances.
 
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