Tips for improving spin on Cue Ball

oh nice deal scott lee

75 an hour or 500 a day. for a pool lesson. you suck buddy . just like i figured . another vulture tryin to prey on the little people.

don't anybody pay that for this guy . i'll beat him like a rented mule.:grin:
 
Feel

who are you . your little web page dont impress me at all. what do you mean totat bs. i tryed to help this guy and you come in and insult my efforts. thats total bs buddy. look i beat your massey and rossman in 9-ball toutnaments and the your other guys don't mean sqwat to me . i have played dozen of world champions and beat my share of them. maybe you wanna try me out. yea i'll play ya some. you need a lesson. i think.
you totally missed my point in what i was tryin to explain to this guy.
are you tryin to sell somthin or what. thats what i think of you buddy just another gimmik man tryin to take someones money with total bs.
so there you go.
i think you owe me an apology buddy

I took what you said to mean more of a 'feel' than actually pushing the cue down. The follow-thru should 'feel' like you are pushing down thru the ball, not that you push the cue stick down literally, or not a lot anyway. I don't think it will help anybody with their game to get into an argument though. Maybe we could chill on that account.
 
75 an hour or 500 a day. for a pool lesson. you suck buddy . just like i figured . another vulture tryin to prey on the little people.

don't anybody pay that for this guy . i'll beat him like a rented mule.:grin:

Man that's cold blooded! i almost spit up my mountain dew when i read that rented mule line
 
Jack White

75 an hour or 500 a day. for a pool lesson. you suck buddy . just like i figured . another vulture tryin to prey on the little people.

don't anybody pay that for this guy . i'll beat him like a rented mule.:grin:

Haven't you ever heard of Jack White's tour oldzilla? He came to my University (U of A in Tuscaloosa) many times while I was there. I even beat him in bank 8-ball when I was a senior (didn't get the million though. :( ) He was a great personality and they do some great stuff at schools.

Don't knock things that reach out to people and promote pool.
 
ty mr mckane

ty for understanding a little more about what i was tryin to say . i hope scott lee is not a friend of yours but he wants way to much for what he is offering. nother guy tryin to make a buck for free advice. free advice is what i said . is it not the way it should be ?;)
 
promote ?

yeah promote the game. do not rob the people who want to learn. i was a player who seen all the theifs rob the game and the players. you just get tired of that stuff.
 
to mojo

by the way i have been using a predator stick for ten years and i love the sniper tips. and gotta remember there s different strokes for different folks. scott lee probly does not think so. he wants you to pay him for advice sir and do things his way cause he prolbly thinks it is the only way.:eek:
 
nord117...Not necessarily. Sidespin stays on the CB 10x longer than directional spin (follow, stun, or draw), so someone who may not have a great stroke can still spin the CB well, on the side, but perhaps not on the vertical axis. It makes a great deal of difference HOW you hold onto the cuestick. A tight grip is the death knell for a good stroke, regardless of where you're aiming on the CB.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Are you trying to tell me no one can stroke a ball with a tight grip? And please tell me how side spin is easier to control than follow center ball and draw. And if you cant stroke a ball with those three how is it a good idea to start trying to stroke a ball with left and right English? That is just going to frustrate people. I am in no way saying that left and right do not have a valuable purpose on a pool table what i am saying A.) you can get around a table with top center and bottom. B.) that if you dont get the basics down effectively you will ruin your game.
 
by the way i have been using a predator stick for ten years and i love the sniper tips. and gotta remember there s different strokes for different folks. scott lee probly does not think so. he wants you to pay him for advice sir and do things his way cause he prolbly thinks it is the only way.:eek:

Most instructors are the same they always try to make you play the way they read how to play, when everyone has a unique way to play the game and your technique doesn't need to be perfect to be a great player. I realize you know this but i am ranting now.
 
By a tight grip being a death grip he is saying that it will hurt your game, not that its impossible. And I really dont get why people fight on here, its kind of lame lol.
 
Hi All,

I am unhappy with the amount of spin I am getting on the cue ball. I have been working on my stroke as I know that is the most important aspect for imparting spin. Does anyone have suggestions for my stroke? I know to follow through and keep my cue level. Also suggestions about shafts and tips? I have been thinking of getting a predator shaft, comments on that?

I get a decent amount of spin now but I play against some guys who can really put juice on the ball and I just can't seem to get there. Shot making is my strong point but cue ball placement especially when I need alot of spin is my weakness. Any help/advice is appreciated!
What kind of spin are you lacking? Top/Draw or Side? Also, are you having a problem only with power shots that require spin?

As for equipment, I doubt the type of shaft/tip will be the limiting factor for getting mega-spin. Virtually any tip/cue combo will be able to get plenty of spin.

-td
 
Sir...Anyone who says you should grip the cue tight enough to put downward pressure on the cuestick, to "avoid miscues", and "apply more spin", must not understand the dynamics of a good quality stroke. No pro players do what you are suggesting, and no instructors advise it. That is all I was saying.

It doesn't matter how good you play, your suggestion will not help the OP, and that was my point.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

i think you owe me an apology buddy
 
oldzilla...I agree with you 100% about different strokes for different folks. However, it's not "my" way...it's the easiest way to learn to have an accurate and repeatable stroke, which is what the OP is trying to learn. Thousands of people have bettered their games from learning this way, so it must not be all bad. Anyone who seeks me out for instruction, does so because they want to get better...most do. All I can do is provide some solid information and a path. The end user has to want to make any changes...most do.

From your description, you advocated using a tight grip to "push the cue" down on your bridge hand. If that's not what you meant, say so...then you have my apology.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

remember there s different strokes for different folks. scott lee probly does not think so. he wants you to pay him for advice sir and do things his way cause he prolbly thinks it is the only way.:eek:
 
Are you trying to tell me no one can stroke a ball with a tight grip? And please tell me how side spin is easier to control than follow center ball and draw. And if you cant stroke a ball with those three how is it a good idea to start trying to stroke a ball with left and right English? That is just going to frustrate people. I am in no way saying that left and right do not have a valuable purpose on a pool table what i am saying A.) you can get around a table with top center and bottom. B.) that if you dont get the basics down effectively you will ruin your game.

kudos nord. see he is speeking with forked toung.he was very quik to tell me i am bs-in.i'll still beat him like a rented mule. he don't gamble anyway.what's he know . trick shots?:grin-square:
 
Hi All,

I am unhappy with the amount of spin I am getting on the cue ball. I have been working on my stroke as I know that is the most important aspect for imparting spin. Does anyone have suggestions for my stroke? I know to follow through and keep my cue level. Also suggestions about shafts and tips? I have been thinking of getting a predator shaft, comments on that?

I get a decent amount of spin now but I play against some guys who can really put juice on the ball and I just can't seem to get there. Shot making is my strong point but cue ball placement especially when I need alot of spin is my weakness. Any help/advice is appreciated!

For me it's having a low deflection shaft (know your pivot point) a loose grip (like holding a bird) a level cue and yes good follow through.

Hope this helps!
 
nord117...No I am not saying no one can stroke a ball with a tight grip. I'm saying it is not conducive to a great stroke. You're taking my words out of context. What I said, is that directional spin is always much less spin overall, than rotational spin...therefore, it is easier to get the CB to move around the table with sidespin, than it is with only follow or draw. They do different things (and cause the CB to go different directions), and I agree with you, that one must learn vertical axis spin, before being able to master sidespin. The OP specifically mentioned sidespin, and was thinking that a certain cue or tip would get him more "stuff". That's just not true. The action on the CB comes strictly from the quality of the stroke.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Are you trying to tell me no one can stroke a ball with a tight grip? And please tell me how side spin is easier to control than follow center ball and draw. And if you cant stroke a ball with those three how is it a good idea to start trying to stroke a ball with left and right English? That is just going to frustrate people. I am in no way saying that left and right do not have a valuable purpose on a pool table what i am saying A.) you can get around a table with top center and bottom. B.) that if you dont get the basics down effectively you will ruin your game.
 
Hi All,

I am unhappy with the amount of spin I am getting on the cue ball. I have been working on my stroke as I know that is the most important aspect for imparting spin. Does anyone have suggestions for my stroke? I know to follow through and keep my cue level. Also suggestions about shafts and tips? I have been thinking of getting a predator shaft, comments on that?

I get a decent amount of spin now but I play against some guys who can really put juice on the ball and I just can't seem to get there. Shot making is my strong point but cue ball placement especially when I need alot of spin is my weakness. Any help/advice is appreciated!

This thread is 99% nonsense so far. The only thing you have to do to get maximum spin is have a well chalked tip and hit the cue ball near the miscue limit (about halfway from the center to the edge). All the rest of this is fairy tales (except a few pieces of advice that can help you hit the cue ball accurately, like having a smooth stroke and a good followthrough). Whenever you ask a technical question like this on AzB, you'll get a mountain of trash to sift through for the real info. It's the drawback of an open forum. Sorry, but you'll just have to learn who the knowledgable posters are.

One good rule of thumb is if you can't immediately see why something makes good sense, it probably doesn't. Pool concepts are simple.

And you should definitely listen to Scott Lee. He's one of the few in this thread that really knows what he's talking about.

pj
chgo
 
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you flunk

oldzilla...I agree with you 100% about different strokes for different folks. However, it's not "my" way...it's the easiest way to learn to have an accurate and repeatable stroke, which is what the OP is trying to learn. Thousands of people have bettered their games from learning this way, so it must not be all bad. Anyone who seeks me out for instruction, does so because they want to get better...most do. All I can do is provide some solid information and a path. The end user has to want to make any changes...most do.

From your description, you advocated using a tight grip to "push the cue" down on your bridge hand. If that's not what you meant, say so...then you have my apology.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com[/QUOTE
by not understanding me you failed the test go to the back of the class.
ok i'm sorry if you can get money for what you do more power to you. but if you are in syracuse i can give ya a game 9-ball or 10-ball. and we can bet.:)
 
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