tips to maximize english, draw

dmgwalsh

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My brother called and asked me what types of tips will help him maximize his draw.

I use a Kamui medium or a Moori myself but don't really worry about maximizing draw.

Any suggestions?
 
dmgwalsh said:
My brother called and asked me what types of tips will help him maximize his draw.

I use a Kamui medium or a Moori myself but don't really worry about maximizing draw.

Any suggestions?

Suggestions???? You're gonna get plenty, and about 20 different ones too!!!

Me. I personally like the Sniper tip.

Hold on, here we go!!!!

Maniac
 
Sorry to get off topic on you, have you had any problems with your Kamui tip. I had a hudge chunk break off from the side. It started in the layers and broke off like a piece of pie. This is the only one that I have tried and really like how it played...Just don't want to spend another $48 if they are no good. $48 seems really!!! I need to find out what others are paying.

And on your question... Kamui tips. Probably one of the best I have tried to get max spin on shots... Better than the moori, everest, lepro and elk master.
 
dmgwalsh said:
My brother called and asked me what types of tips will help him maximize his draw.

I use a Kamui medium or a Moori myself but don't really worry about maximizing draw.

Any suggestions?
Sure. Learn to hit the ball better. I'm sure that's not what he wants to hear, but if he works on developing an accurate stroke that hits the cue ball where he intends, it will be far more valuable than the tiny increase in draw he might get from a change of tip. In any case, max draw usually occurs at the edge of miscue territory, so a tip that holds chalk well will probably help.

For what it's worth, a lot of top carom players, who spin the ball a lot more than pool players, use Mooris.

If you would like to play a trick on him, let him shoot a long draw shot with your special "draw" tip. Slip in a cue ball that's been waxed or siliconed. After seeing the juice he gets on the cue ball, he'll be ready to pay you $100 per tip. Do not use this trick on large strangers.
 
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dmgwalsh said:
My brother called and asked me what types of tips will help him maximize his draw.

I use a Kamui medium or a Moori myself but don't really worry about maximizing draw.

Any suggestions?

The only tips you will need to draw the ball better are proper technique and practice. This will take you so much farther than any sort of tool. It's not always in the hammer but just sometimes how the carpenter works the job.
 
dmgwalsh said:
My brother called and asked me what types of tips will help him maximize his draw.

I use a Kamui medium or a Moori myself but don't really worry about maximizing draw.

Any suggestions?

Sniper.......
 
Only ERO's said:
The only tips you will need to draw the ball better are proper technique and practice. This will take you so much farther than any sort of tool. It's not always in the hammer but just sometimes how the carpenter works the job.


Excellent!
 
Bob Jewett said:
In any case, max draw usually occurs at the edge of miscue territory, so a tip that holds chalk well will probably help.

Yeah, I think the entire answer to the first post in this thread is "one that holds chalk". Other than that, the tip doesn't matter much for how much juice you end up putting on the ball. The reason people prefer one tip over another is not how much spin they get, but durability, feel, shape-holding, and chalk-holding.

-Andrew
 
Try a soft fluffy Elk Master ala most house sticks - holds more chalk in the fluff .
 
HIRUN526 said:
Excellent!

Yeah I know. I got a little carried away. But I get urges to post stuff like that quite often after reading some stuff on here. I don't mean to attack the thread starter or anybody else by this post. I really enjoy AZ forums and I am highly entertained. But there are things that drive me nuts.

Yes, there are some tools in pool that will improve your game. But for the most part, it is called practice, advice and dedication. Pros aren't born with superpowers to see better, or anything like that to make them as good as they are. They typically put the time in and learn the game.

I am not saying that I am a superstar player or a low level player either, but I have put numerous years into the game I love and it all in turn makes you better at it. I have used different cues and shafts and stuff like that, but all in all, I could use a bar cue and get the job done as well and that come from experience. And by experience, I mean practice and knowledge.

There are certain patterns to the game and everybody plays different. There is no one correct pattern, but patterns that simplify the layouts. Certain shots have advantages of playing them certain ways, and every once in a while, there is only ONE way to go.

The thing that frustrates me is some of the questions I hear on here. There are plenty of great questions and that is why I lurk and read more often on here than I should. But there are others that need to spend more time on the table than reading the Internet. Practicing is the easiest way to become better, although at times it doesn't seems so. Other ways include watching videos, reading books or talking to better players to gain the knowledge to become a better player.

Sorry about my ramblings. Just some thoughts I had.
 
The Karomi tip adds a lot of control without all the mushrooming.

One other thing that has a lot to do with the control is the taper on the shaft. If you have a thicker shaft, it will not flex as much and flex is definitely helpful for English. A pro taper of maybe 11 or 12 inches gives you a lot of control.

Careful: Too much flex in the shaft can be harmful to the everyday player's shots. Too long of a pro taper, or too thin of a shaft can mess his game up. It can also cause the shaft to be easier to warp, if it's going to do so. So, there is a point where it becomes more detrimental to change things.
 
Only ERO's said:
Yeah I know. I got a little carried away. But I get urges to post stuff like that quite often after reading some stuff on here. I don't mean to attack the thread starter or anybody else by this post. I really enjoy AZ forums and I am highly entertained. But there are things that drive me nuts.

Yes, there are some tools in pool that will improve your game. But for the most part, it is called practice, advice and dedication. Pros aren't born with superpowers to see better, or anything like that to make them as good as they are. They typically put the time in and learn the game.

I am not saying that I am a superstar player or a low level player either, but I have put numerous years into the game I love and it all in turn makes you better at it. I have used different cues and shafts and stuff like that, but all in all, I could use a bar cue and get the job done as well and that come from experience. And by experience, I mean practice and knowledge.

There are certain patterns to the game and everybody plays different. There is no one correct pattern, but patterns that simplify the layouts. Certain shots have advantages of playing them certain ways, and every once in a while, there is only ONE way to go.

The thing that frustrates me is some of the questions I hear on here. There are plenty of great questions and that is why I lurk and read more often on here than I should. But there are others that need to spend more time on the table than reading the Internet. Practicing is the easiest way to become better, although at times it doesn't seems so. Other ways include watching videos, reading books or talking to better players to gain the knowledge to become a better player.

Sorry about my ramblings. Just some thoughts I had.

Thanks for the help, so far.

My brother lives in Portland and I'm in Chicago. He recently was in a car accident and injured his shoulder and neck a little. He says he can't get the spin on a ball that he used to be able to get on it and wonders if it is related to his stroke or possibly he needs a new tip. He took a lesson with Scott Lee before and worked in a poolhall when he was 18, (almost 40 years ago). Last I saw him, his stroke was fine. Much better than mine.

Softer tip I told him might help with the draw.I guess he likes seeing the cue ball move around.
 
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