Titlist Hit - why so good

bigskyjake said:
Speaking of Titlists, I was at Jack Madden's house on wednesday and had a chance to shoot with an old Rambow, the hit is unlike anything else. It's like shaking hands with an angel

Just a curious question. If you picked up that cue and didn't know that it was or told that it was a old Rambow would it have felt as good?

I never had the opportunity to play with a Rambow and am just wonder why it is any better than any other top cue maker of today.

Thanks
 
Patrick Johnson said:
I've heard "harmonics" and "resonance" mentioned a lot, but I've never heard anybody say what they are or what kind are good or really much of anything about them except that some cues have good ones (even though none seem to have bad ones).

Can these things be described or are they somebody's intellectual property?

pj
chgo

Harmonics are those things that Bob Dylan wears around his neck and blows into making a nice wheezing sound. Resonance is the ability of humans to make judgements about different stuff that woods might do they can't otherwise figure out.

Hope this helps.

Chris
 
TATE said:
Harmonics are those things that Bob Dylan wears around his neck and blows into making a nice wheezing sound. Resonance is the ability of humans to make judgements about different stuff that woods might do they can't otherwise figure out.

Hope this helps.

Chris


old wood has better, more consistant resonance, it changes with time however the older the wood the less the change.

I think harmonics does apply here as well, but i'm too sleepy to look it up now. Not gonna argue with you about it-your my friend, but I think there is a relationship between harmonics and resonance, something from physics class along time ago.

best fatboy
 
manwon said:
Fatboy, you hit the nail on the head, I totally agree with you concept. But the best part is you only had to use two words.:)

three more words.....thank you sir. :)


my concept of old wood cues has came in time to me over the past 22 years of playing pool and experiencing alot of cues and owning some cues for that many years, i have learned this
 
TheBook said:
Just a curious question. If you picked up that cue and didn't know that it was or told that it was a old Rambow would it have felt as good?

I never had the opportunity to play with a Rambow and am just wonder why it is any better than any other top cue maker of today.

Thanks

It's impossible to know now
but i can say that it had a completely pure and mellow feel that's unlike anything I've ever shot with before. Hell, the next person who shoots with it may hate it. That's why there is no perfect cure that suits everyone, 10 people will interpret a certain cue's hit 10 different ways
 
Indeed, someone we both know aims to make his 2-pieces hit like the best 1-piece, and succeeds. I've had one of his full-splice sneaky's, a plain jane, and now a Titlist (not full-splice), and they all hit,feel,play almost identical. It's the cue-maker's skills that makes this possible.
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And knowledge.:)
 
Would be interesting to compare the pattern from cues with different "harmonics".

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Accelerometers mounted inside rubber cap:
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Would get better data on the hit from solid a mount.

Slip-on rubber mount does not affect the stroke and swerve data, which was the original intent of the design.
 
bigskyjake said:
Speaking of Titlists, I was at Jack Madden's house on wednesday and had a chance to shoot with an old Rambow, the hit is unlike anything else. It's like shaking hands with an angel

I have a friend who plays with an old Rambow.

It's fine.

Nothing really special though, IMHO.

I have a custom full-splice Schmelke sneaky that hits very similarly to the Rambow. I prefer the Schmelke.

The Rambow's worth a lot, yet it's his player.

I think the key is in the full splice... plus a quality shaft, of course.

Flex
 
Fatboy said:
old wood...

Thats it in a nutshell,I play with a Odom cue,and his wood that he use's for his shaft's,came from an old gymnasium floor,it hits like a solid old cue.
 
roosterman said:
Thats it in a nutshell,I play with a Odom cue,and his wood that he use's for his shaft's,came from an old gymnasium floor,it hits like a solid old cue.


thats cool, real cool, i never gave it any thought but i bet there is a pile of good wood in some old floors, it dosent move around like new wood does, i have a collection of cues from 1960 to current and at around 20 years old the maple starts getting that darker yellow color and seems to firm up a bit, i have one SW I got new in 87 and have been watching it all these years get darker. I play with a mid 70's Gus the shafts are hard as diamonds, you cant ding them, on new shafts I get little micro dings(not dents-i dont move balls with my shaft etc.) on the 30 year and older shafts they just feel better.

best fatboy
 
Descriptions from this thread:

play so good
better 'feel'
best overall 'hit'
hits em fantastic
hits em so damn good
"hits" better
a solid hit
sweet to play with
better feel
better playability
very odd feel
much better playing
like shaking hands with an angel
absolutely perfect-playing
play incredible
better reasonance
the feel
must resonate
better, more consistant resonance
completely pure and mellow feel
hits like a solid old cue

Can anybody tell me what any of these mean? (Without using words like good, better, best, fantastic, great, perfect, incredible, sweet, solid, pure, mellow, hit, feel, resonance, playability, etc., etc.?)

In other words, can any of these qualities actually be described, not just named?

pj
chgo
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Descriptions from this thread:



Can anybody tell me what any of these mean? (Without using words like good, better, best, fantastic, great, perfect, incredible, sweet, solid, pure, mellow, hit, feel, resonance, playability, etc., etc.?)

In other words, can any of these qualities actually be described, not just named?

pj
chgo

its sthe feed back you feel in right hand/arm if your a right handed player.
 
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