Training for a backstroke pause

Scott, do you feel it is beneficial to increase the length of the pause? Is there anything wrong with having a very brief, or momentary pause?
Thanks for taking time to post.



Maxx.

The "pause" can last anywhere from .003 to 3 seconds. It's not the "pause" but the TRANSITION. Take our cue back under control so that we don't have to re-grip or re-align in less than a second.

randyg
 
Why is a deliberate and pronounced backstroke pause important?

it maintains consistency. Many snooker players do a back pause, however is not mandatory. Many snooker coaches teaches a slow backswing because most of the stroking errors are on the backswing. I noticed many people on hard shots tend to pull back the cue very fast and very often the backswing is not straight. Also a slow backswing ( imho ) is beautiful to watch because the stroke seems smoother. Many people have a very fast backswing and seems like they are poking the cueball.
 
Just temporary

JC...I have to disagree that adding 3-4 oz. to your cue is necessary, or advantageous, for a pause at the end of the backswing...

Scott, I think he was saying that the extra weight helped him to learn the pause - it made it easier, but I think it is just a temporary crutch the he intends to get rid of once the pause becomes habit.
 
Scott, I think he was saying that the extra weight helped him to learn the pause - it made it easier, but I think it is just a temporary crutch the he intends to get rid of once the pause becomes habit.

That's correct, I have no intention of changing my playing cue at this point. I wouldn't call it a crutch as much as a training tool. I know the idea sounds silly but I noticed with my muscles toting just that little extra weight there is a much easier and natural tendency to want to stop cold, comfortably. I'm sure eye patterns sounded like snake oil the first time someone mentioned it, right Scott?

JC
 
Oh yeah, I like this thread. I've been working on my pause, making it longer, just so I don't forget. That's what happens to us bangers.

Neil, I'll try the slower backswing this afternoon, it sounds right.

Scott, I hope you will hit Dee Cee in June, I need the help, don't forget.

Buzzard aka Jim Rhoades
 
cliff thorburn

or just do what cliff did, forget the backswing, just deliver the cue.
if you walk into the shot, and your alignment is correct........
try it , you may be amazed.
 
This is exactly what I would say. The pause is related to making the transition from backswing to forward stroke EASY & SMOOTH.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Maxx.

The "pause" can last anywhere from .003 to 3 seconds. It's not the "pause" but the TRANSITION. Take our cue back under control so that we don't have to re-grip or re-align in less than a second.

randyg
 
Jim...I haven't forgotten! I'll be contacting you in a couple of weeks, when I get back to MI, and plan my trip to DC/Virginia. :thumbup:

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Oh yeah, I like this thread. I've been working on my pause, making it longer, just so I don't forget. That's what happens to us bangers.

Neil, I'll try the slower backswing this afternoon, it sounds right.

Scott, I hope you will hit Dee Cee in June, I need the help, don't forget.

Buzzard aka Jim Rhoades
 
JC...Glad to hear you're not planning to play with such a heavy cue. Actually, years ago, the first time I showed PEP to a pro-level player he utilized it to finish quite high in a regional tour event, beating three top players along the way...then he came on here and talked about his success! :D

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

That's correct, I have no intention of changing my playing cue at this point. I wouldn't call it a crutch as much as a training tool. I know the idea sounds silly but I noticed with my muscles toting just that little extra weight there is a much easier and natural tendency to want to stop cold, comfortably. I'm sure eye patterns sounded like snake oil the first time someone mentioned it, right Scott?

JC
 
Thanks for all the information. I appreciate people taking the time to reply.
 
That's a different thread. This is for those who have already drunk the koolaid.

JC

I was taught "the pause". But I ignored the teachings and didn't do it for years. Then all of a sudden one day I realized I was doing it. Since it became a natural thing as I got better, then maybe that shows it's important.

Fatz
 
I was taught "the pause". But I ignored the teachings and didn't do it for years. Then all of a sudden one day I realized I was doing it. Since it became a natural thing as I got better, then maybe that shows it's important.

Fatz

It never occurred to me, but once I heard about it, I was like.. "holy shit, this works".

Well, not at first. At first I was like "I can't make my arm stop. I was determined to pause the past 5 times I tried, and every time... I didn't."...I finally did and I realized how much steering I was putting into certain shots. It helped me identify situations where I was simply aiming at the wrong place and bullshitting myself into thinking it was the right place.

Now, I lean on it when I need to make a long tough one, and for certain other difficult shots. The harder the shot, the more I count on it. And I don't think about it anymore, it just happens. My arm wants to give me a little extra time to line up perfectly before going forward.
 
Whether you know it or not...or believe it or not...we all stop our cue three times on every shot...at the cb, at the end of the backswing, and at the end of the forward stroke. The timing of the stops may or may not be momentary, but they are there nonetheless. My personal pause at the end of my backswing is about a quarter second long. Allison Fisher's is about one second, and Buddy Hall's is about 3-4 seconds (very long). Different strokes for different folks...but we all stop the cue.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqlbpCxxOW4

Buddy Hall vs Strickland

Wanted to see a 3 second pause and I found this cool match but no 3 second pause.
 
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