Triangle Tip Question
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It's a crap shoot. Most single layer tips vary in hardnesses, not necessarily by design - You by a box of 50 and if someone had a hardness measuring device, you woul dbe surprised at the variances. It's like Forrest Gump's mother used to say about a box of chocolates: you never know what you're going to get.
This is one reason that the layered tips became so popular, you do have an idea of what you'll get.
Dave
Pretty much any brand/model of tip can have some degree of inconsistency. Especially non-layered tips.
But you are right about Triangle being a harder tip. They are on the hard side of medium. If you like a hard tip, try a Sumo.
Currently I have a Hercules hard on my playing cue. It's a very reasonably priced layered tip and I've not had to do any shaping since I installed it and I haven't had any issues with miscueing.
But you are right about Triangle being a harder tip. They are on the hard side of medium. If you like a hard tip, try a Sumo.
Currently I have a Hercules hard on my playing cue. It's a very reasonably priced layered tip and I've not had to do any shaping since I installed it and I haven't had any issues with miscueing.
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Thanks Dave, that's kind of what I thought. I have one that is pure magic on my Joss and another that feels like a rock.
Monte
I was thinking of trying a triangle because I thought they were about medium. I need a little softer tip. My first tip was the everest that comes stock on the OB1, and I get at least a couple of miscues a day. Now I have a kumai medium and I am still get a couple of miscues a day. I have a good stroke but it happens when i am trying to put extreme draw or spin on the ball. What do you guys recommend? I want a tip that grabs but doesn't need maintainance and doesnt come apart in about 3 months like a moori can.
Centerpocket, try a Super Soft Kamui Black. They are great! I was asking about Triangles because I have one that feels like a Kamui. Weirdest thing!
Do the super softs hold up well over time? need little maintanance?
Center pocket,
Personally I don't think miscueing is a result of the tip. Really any shot where you need "extreme" anything, you can probably do the same thing with "a lot", rather than "extreme" ha ha if you follow me. I have tried a great deal of tips and settled on the Moori medium. Your comment about Mooris falling apart is odd. I have probably had 100 Moori mediums over the years and the only time I had issues was when I break with my playing cue. My tip often rubs forcefully on the cloth when I break. This causes a lateral force on the side of the tip which can quickly result in "delaminating" (the layers come apart). So the solution is simple: don't break with a Moori if you break anything like me.
As for triangles, I think they are a great all around tip. I would characterize them as medium. If they are somewhat tall, they really feel a little spongy. I recommend lightly compressing the tip in a vise. This will give you a reasonably hard tip (probably still not as hard feeling as a Moori med.) that will hold its shape very well, require minimal scuffing, and grabs the ball great. Try it out. I would also recommend that you trim the tip down to about 1/2 the height of a brand new full size one. This will give you a bit better feel, a significantly more crisp hit, and probably result in better longevity (sometimes triangles can just become mushy over time if left tall). This is actually not a half bad break tip. Holds chalk great too.
KMRUNOUT
I know what you mean but i like to slow spin balls like efren and sometimes that takes alot. By extreme I dont mean so far out that you miscue no matter what tip, My deffinition of extreme is probably closer to your deffinition of alot, do you follow me?
I use triangle tips on my break cue that I sometime shoot with. I feel that a brand new tiangle tip is too soft. After about a year of breaking with it, that brand new tip starts to get about the hardness that I don't mind shooting with. I remember someone saying that they put their tips in a vice and torque them down or take a hammer to a new tip and then install them. I'm considering trying the hammer approach to pre-compress the tip when I need to put on a new one for my break cue.
They hold up!
One hardness................
Hi there,
the triangle tip is one of the best tips on the market. The bad thing is that the tip gets ruined when it's cut down or gets too hot from sanding or burnishing on the lathe.
I put my own on. I use epoxy. Two part and mix it. I just set the tip on the ferrul with very little pressure so I don't sqweaze out to much of the epoxy. I put duck tape around the ferrul so I get no glue on it.
Once it's dried I sand down the side by hand using 400 wet dry sand paper wraped around a 1"x2" 4" long piece of wood. Using it kind of like a fingernail file I sand on the edges until it's flush with the ferrul.
Once I get it close to being done I switch to another little block of wood that I have finer sand paper.
Then I just wet the side of the tip a little bit and burnish it with some regular old cardboard.
When this tip is taken down slowly like this you will have one of the best tips you ever had on your cue. It responds great and will keep it's shape real good. Hardly no mushrooming or fraying on the sides at all.
It will also keep it's bounce for a while also. Most tips that are put on and turned down quick get the leather torn too quickly. Therefor the tip gets real hard real quick from sqwashing out reshaping.
This will give you a great tip for about 3 weeks to a month. As with most tips after that they just get kind of hard and compressed. But for .75 each you can afford to change it once a month.
Anyone that reads this should try this.
Seeing,using is believing. And when you do it like this there is not a bad tip in the box. They all play exactly the same.
I thought about making a little video on how to do this. All these other tips cost too much and they don't play any better if you do it like this.
Have a great day Try it you'll like it. Geno............
Some of the pros I've mingled with in the past use a triangle. They arn't sponsored by then either. They use them because they work great if they are put on right.
:clapping:
Hi there,
the triangle tip is one of the best tips on the market. The bad thing is that the tip gets ruined when it's cut down or gets too hot from sanding or burnishing on the lathe.
I put my own on. I use epoxy. Two part and mix it. I just set the tip on the ferrul with very little pressure so I don't sqweaze out to much of the epoxy. I put duck tape around the ferrul so I get no glue on it.
Once it's dried I sand down the side by hand using 400 wet dry sand paper wraped around a 1"x2" 4" long piece of wood. Using it kind of like a fingernail file I sand on the edges until it's flush with the ferrul.
Once I get it close to being done I switch to another little block of wood that I have finer sand paper.
Then I just wet the side of the tip a little bit and burnish it with some regular old cardboard.
When this tip is taken down slowly like this you will have one of the best tips you ever had on your cue. It responds great and will keep it's shape real good. Hardly no mushrooming or fraying on the sides at all.
It will also keep it's bounce for a while also. Most tips that are put on and turned down quick get the leather torn too quickly. Therefor the tip gets real hard real quick from sqwashing out reshaping.
This will give you a great tip for about 3 weeks to a month. As with most tips after that they just get kind of hard and compressed. But for .75 each you can afford to change it once a month.
Anyone that reads this should try this.
Seeing,using is believing. And when you do it like this there is not a bad tip in the box. They all play exactly the same.
I thought about making a little video on how to do this. All these other tips cost too much and they don't play any better if you do it like this.
Have a great day Try it you'll like it. Geno............
Some of the pros I've mingled with in the past use a triangle. They arn't sponsored by then either. They use them because they work great if they are put on right.
:clapping:
From what little experience I've had with them I'm going to say medium-hard. Remember though, medium-hard to me may mean something different to someone else. Meullers give a hardness number on all the tips they sell, but I for one think that's pretty meaningless. My advice would be to invest in a modern layered tip such as a Moori, Kamui, Everest, or a Sniper, and be done with it. My cue maker buddy Dave says that those green ones are good to. :smile:
"fraying"
thanks genomac: was haveing trouble with lepro it seemed to keep geting
a sharp edge around tip ,did not know what to call it , would turn it in lathe
to clean it up would come right back "fraying" is the word. did not like it.
i don't like looking down cue to see chalk caked on edge of tip.
changed over to tringle ,much better. think i like the hit and feel better
than lee, i will try the vice next time i retip.
thanks , john107:anderson sc
Hi there,
the triangle tip is one of the best tips on the market. The bad thing is that the tip gets ruined when it's cut down or gets too hot from sanding or burnishing on the lathe.
I put my own on. I use epoxy. Two part and mix it. I just set the tip on the ferrul with very little pressure so I don't sqweaze out to much of the epoxy. I put duck tape around the ferrul so I get no glue on it.
Once it's dried I sand down the side by hand using 400 wet dry sand paper wraped around a 1"x2" 4" long piece of wood. Using it kind of like a fingernail file I sand on the edges until it's flush with the ferrul.
Once I get it close to being done I switch to another little block of wood that I have finer sand paper.
Then I just wet the side of the tip a little bit and burnish it with some regular old cardboard.
When this tip is taken down slowly like this you will have one of the best tips you ever had on your cue. It responds great and will keep it's shape real good. Hardly no mushrooming or fraying on the sides at all.
It will also keep it's bounce for a while also. Most tips that are put on and turned down quick get the leather torn too quickly. Therefor the tip gets real hard real quick from sqwashing out reshaping.
This will give you a great tip for about 3 weeks to a month. As with most tips after that they just get kind of hard and compressed. But for .75 each you can afford to change it once a month.
Anyone that reads this should try this.
Seeing,using is believing. And when you do it like this there is not a bad tip in the box. They all play exactly the same.
I thought about making a little video on how to do this. All these other tips cost too much and they don't play any better if you do it like this.
Have a great day Try it you'll like it. Geno............
Some of the pros I've mingled with in the past use a triangle. They arn't sponsored by then either. They use them because they work great if they are put on right.
thanks genomac: was haveing trouble with lepro it seemed to keep geting
a sharp edge around tip ,did not know what to call it , would turn it in lathe
to clean it up would come right back "fraying" is the word. did not like it.
i don't like looking down cue to see chalk caked on edge of tip.
changed over to tringle ,much better. think i like the hit and feel better
than lee, i will try the vice next time i retip.
thanks , john107:anderson sc
I put Triangles in the soft to medium range. They are to tall if not cut down or compressed especially for using lots of english. I think they hold up well, no problem there. However I prefer to use compressed elks myself.
Some years ago triangles was a much harder tip and shorter. As time goes on though they could not leave good enough alone. These companies are always changing their mixture. That happened with the WB tips as well. Now I don't use either one, they f**ked up a good thing.
Rod