The Mosconi Cup is a show and Shaw is just playing the bad guy for tv ratings. He is a class act!
Turning Stone Classic XXXVI
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The Mosconi Cup is a show and Shaw is just playing the bad guy for tv ratings. He is a class act!
I don't mean he doesn't act like a douche. I'm just saying he isn't the guy you is going to cheat you. He is honest in that regard
I was there for all matches on Sunday. Seems like most re-racks were done in matches where Jayson was involved and it was Jayson who was asking for most re-racks. Maybe he is indeed Eagel eyed and can see micro spaces, but there were some situations at crucial moments that Jayson was asked to re-rack so I am not sure how he missed those space. I believe the mechanical rack was a disaster. Why not use a template and make the break rules more difficult like Matchroom is doing?
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Had Skyler, who came to the table down 12-6 and came within a whisker of running the match out, completed the winning six pack, the match would have gone down as one of the greatest finals ever.
Wu ran his famous package to compete his win at the World 9-ball championships in 2005 and I recall a match in which JL Chang ran the last six racks against Dennis Orcullo to come from behind during the BCAPL pro event in about 2014.
All of that said, the Turning Stone final still stands among the great finals. The two finalists, who have combined to win four of the last five Mosconi MVP awards, have a lot of respect for each other, and both displayed great sportsmanship in this exceptional match.
Pool as it should be for sure!
Wu ran his famous package to compete his win at the World 9-ball championships in 2005 and I recall a match in which JL Chang ran the last six racks against Dennis Orcullo to come from behind during the BCAPL pro event in about 2014.
All of that said, the Turning Stone final still stands among the great finals. The two finalists, who have combined to win four of the last five Mosconi MVP awards, have a lot of respect for each other, and both displayed great sportsmanship in this exceptional match.
Pool as it should be for sure!
I've already advocated a magic slug rack. Nobody even called!
Why not just have random members of the audience break for them? That would be interesting.
I don't know if this has been posted, but I just received an email from the Joss Tour this morning that provided the following info, which I thought would interest the members.
Here is the complete order of finish for Mike Zuglan's Joss Northeast 9-Ball Tour's, "Turning Stone Classic XXXVI 9-Ball Open", which was held January 5 - 8, 2023. The event was $25,000 added with a total prize fund of $47,000. There was a full field of 128 players. All players were paid in cash immediately upon their elimination from the event!
1st $10,000 Jayson Shaw
2nd $6,500 Skyler Woodward
3rd $4,000 Jeremy Sossei
4th $2,700 Fedor Gorst (Rus)
5/6th $2,000 each - Kevin West, Naoyuki Oi (Japan)
7/8th $1,600 each - Mika Immonen, Vitaliy Patsura (Ukraine)
9/12th $1,200 each - Thorsten Hohmann, Billy Thorpe, Dan Hewitt (Can), Johnny Morra (Can)
13/16th $950 each - Hunter Lombardo, Mieszko Fortunski (Pol), Shane Wolford, Dylan Spohr,
17/24th $599 each - Carlin Sanderson (Can), Jesse Engel, Johnny Archer, Nick Charette (Can), Donny Mills, Frank Hernandez, Bart Czapla (Pol), Erik Hjorleifson (Can)
25/32nd $400 each - Matt Krah, Earl Herring, Bucky Souvanthong, Oscar Dominguez, Lukas Fracasso-Verner, Nick Antonakos, Ron Casanzio, Demetrius Jelatis
33/48th - Tony Antone, Jimmy Rivera, Holden Chin, Landon Hollingsworth, Jonathan Smith, Yesid Garibello, Alain Gelinas (Can), Dominic Byrne (Can), Josh Thiele, Kevin Guimond, Kristina Tkach (Rus), Troy Deocharran, Dave Dreidel, Greg Antonakos, Suad Kantarevic, Tom Zippler
49/64th - Kyle Akaloo (S.A), Kerry McAuliffe, Tom McGonagle, Ray McNamara, Len Gianfrate, Alvin Thomas, Rich Britt, Barry Hetherington (Can), Brian Vu, Caroline Pao, Shawn Wilkie, Drew Herbert, Brent Boemmels, Nick Copploa, Mike Yednak, Randy Labonte
65/96th - Dave fernandez, Joey Cicero (Can), Willy Oney, Pat Fleming, Ed Culhane, Larry Phlegar, Derek Cunningham, Jerome Rockwell, Paul Rozonewski, Henry Cha, Sean Santoro, Tom Acciavatti, Dave Shlemperis, Del Sim, Gene Hunt, Dave Callaghan, Shawn Jackson, Jed Jecen, Jesse Docalavich, Marko Kam, Fred Gokey, Alan Gordon, Garrett Vaughan, John Vitale, Eric Cloutier (Can), Nate Marshall, Aaron Greenwood, Brad Guthrie (Can), Matt Harricharan, Dave Mills, Paul Dryden, Greg Bombard
97/128th - Andrea Duvall, Brandon Shuff, Tom Brinton, Tom Gildea, Steven W Smith, Jim Kearney, Mike Giurleo, Bobby Hilton, Dave Copperwheat, Ray Carey, Bruce Gordon. Don Polo, Brian Tierney, George Poltorak, Mike Toohig, Jordan Turner, Jim Udischas, Connor Vandreason, Dave Powis, Grayson Vaughan, Jim Prather, Marc Dionne, Shawn Wescott, Rick Bentley, Bob Cunningham, Frank Wolak, Linda Cheung, Suzzie Wong, Glen Van Court, Jacques Bouchard (Can), Rick Miller, Jay Chiu
Our Second Chance event had a field of 21 players with a total prize fund of $1,100.
1st $500 Landon Hollingsworth
2nd $300 Dave Fernandez
3/4th $150 each - Drew Herbert, Tom Zippler
$1,900 Joss Cue raffle winner, Suzzie Wong
$1,900 Joss Cue raffle winner, Tim Spohr
Here is the complete order of finish for Mike Zuglan's Joss Northeast 9-Ball Tour's, "Turning Stone Classic XXXVI 9-Ball Open", which was held January 5 - 8, 2023. The event was $25,000 added with a total prize fund of $47,000. There was a full field of 128 players. All players were paid in cash immediately upon their elimination from the event!
1st $10,000 Jayson Shaw
2nd $6,500 Skyler Woodward
3rd $4,000 Jeremy Sossei
4th $2,700 Fedor Gorst (Rus)
5/6th $2,000 each - Kevin West, Naoyuki Oi (Japan)
7/8th $1,600 each - Mika Immonen, Vitaliy Patsura (Ukraine)
9/12th $1,200 each - Thorsten Hohmann, Billy Thorpe, Dan Hewitt (Can), Johnny Morra (Can)
13/16th $950 each - Hunter Lombardo, Mieszko Fortunski (Pol), Shane Wolford, Dylan Spohr,
17/24th $599 each - Carlin Sanderson (Can), Jesse Engel, Johnny Archer, Nick Charette (Can), Donny Mills, Frank Hernandez, Bart Czapla (Pol), Erik Hjorleifson (Can)
25/32nd $400 each - Matt Krah, Earl Herring, Bucky Souvanthong, Oscar Dominguez, Lukas Fracasso-Verner, Nick Antonakos, Ron Casanzio, Demetrius Jelatis
33/48th - Tony Antone, Jimmy Rivera, Holden Chin, Landon Hollingsworth, Jonathan Smith, Yesid Garibello, Alain Gelinas (Can), Dominic Byrne (Can), Josh Thiele, Kevin Guimond, Kristina Tkach (Rus), Troy Deocharran, Dave Dreidel, Greg Antonakos, Suad Kantarevic, Tom Zippler
49/64th - Kyle Akaloo (S.A), Kerry McAuliffe, Tom McGonagle, Ray McNamara, Len Gianfrate, Alvin Thomas, Rich Britt, Barry Hetherington (Can), Brian Vu, Caroline Pao, Shawn Wilkie, Drew Herbert, Brent Boemmels, Nick Copploa, Mike Yednak, Randy Labonte
65/96th - Dave fernandez, Joey Cicero (Can), Willy Oney, Pat Fleming, Ed Culhane, Larry Phlegar, Derek Cunningham, Jerome Rockwell, Paul Rozonewski, Henry Cha, Sean Santoro, Tom Acciavatti, Dave Shlemperis, Del Sim, Gene Hunt, Dave Callaghan, Shawn Jackson, Jed Jecen, Jesse Docalavich, Marko Kam, Fred Gokey, Alan Gordon, Garrett Vaughan, John Vitale, Eric Cloutier (Can), Nate Marshall, Aaron Greenwood, Brad Guthrie (Can), Matt Harricharan, Dave Mills, Paul Dryden, Greg Bombard
97/128th - Andrea Duvall, Brandon Shuff, Tom Brinton, Tom Gildea, Steven W Smith, Jim Kearney, Mike Giurleo, Bobby Hilton, Dave Copperwheat, Ray Carey, Bruce Gordon. Don Polo, Brian Tierney, George Poltorak, Mike Toohig, Jordan Turner, Jim Udischas, Connor Vandreason, Dave Powis, Grayson Vaughan, Jim Prather, Marc Dionne, Shawn Wescott, Rick Bentley, Bob Cunningham, Frank Wolak, Linda Cheung, Suzzie Wong, Glen Van Court, Jacques Bouchard (Can), Rick Miller, Jay Chiu
Our Second Chance event had a field of 21 players with a total prize fund of $1,100.
1st $500 Landon Hollingsworth
2nd $300 Dave Fernandez
3/4th $150 each - Drew Herbert, Tom Zippler
$1,900 Joss Cue raffle winner, Suzzie Wong
$1,900 Joss Cue raffle winner, Tim Spohr
Shaw may have won, and fair play to him, but Sky looked the better bet this week. Sky has looked more confident and more focused since he left Meucci for Cuetec it appears. I'm looking for Sky to have his strongest year in a long time.
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I have said before and I will say it again, for those that truly know him, he is the most down to earth person you will meet. He knows how to play a role when needed and does it well. Outside of that he will give you the shirt off his back, is a great husband and father, and doesn't take himself too seriously.
you'd be wrong on that.
Jayson seems to be a great individual. However, I think he was putting unnecessary pressure on his opponents to get a perfect rack with a wooden rack. Oi, Gorst, Sossei and Syklar seemed frustrated at times having to re-rack over and over. Oi seemed like his back was hurting couple times with the amount of re-rack he had to do
Syklar at one point walked away and said I "think" this is a good rack ... fortunately, Jayson accepted it With luck, supernatural skills and "asking for re-racks, Turning Stone might be the Jayson event
Darn right. Jayson is a very fierce, intense competitor who wears those qualities on his sleeve in the arena of battle. In this respect, he's a lot like Filler. Those who mistake this for a show of disrespect toward their opponents need to reconsider. Jayson and Josh are both a delight outside of the arena. Pool needs more Jayson Shaw and Josh Filler types.
Jayson seems to be a great individual. However, I think he was putting unnecessary pressure on his opponents to get a perfect rack with a wooden rack. Oi, Gorst, Sossei and Syklar seemed frustrated at times having to re-rack over and over. Oi seemed like his back was hurting couple times with the amount of re-rack he had to do
With luck, supernatural skills and "asking for re-racks, Turning Stone might be the Jayson event
oi has suffered from a bad back in the past. it held him back for years. but better now i think.
turning stone definitely seems to suit jayson, his total winnings in this event should be pushing 100k. with few travel expenses too.
Agreed. Mosconi Cup is a different animal. The crowd and the interaction with the players is what its about. Its pool meets WWE. Jayson is just like heel (bad guy) Brett Hart from the 90's. He was a hero in Canada but a vilian in the US. Jayson "plays the heel" while in the US at mosconi cup and plays the hero in England. Its no different then skylar trying to hush the crowd in England or taking his extension on a straight in 9 ball to hype the crowd up in the US. Once people understand that Mosconi Cup is part show and to not judge people on that, then the better they will be. I have met Jayson a couple times and couldn't have been a nicer guy.