I might play that way, IF played call shot and any missed called shot gave ball in hand
Two-Foul 9 Ball
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I might play that way, IF played call shot and any missed called shot gave ball in hand
One Foul Rules lack the strategic element that is essential in all games.
They played a major tournament like this in Memphis one year. Roger Griffis beat Earl Strickland in the finals (correct me if I'm wrong) and I finished 3rd or 4th.....Mike Massey may have been 3rd I can't remember the details.
I don't like these rules, they lack the strategic element that is essential in all games.
To me the game needs the "DARE FACTOR" and the "TWO WAY SHOTS" to be entertaining. These two elements are rarely seen in ONE FOUL, and they are very prevalent in TWO FOUL RULES.
"The game of pool is perfect, we just have to uncover that perfection" - 'The Game is the Teacher'
They played a major tournament like this in Memphis one year. Roger Griffis beat Earl Strickland in the finals (correct me if I'm wrong) and I finished 3rd or 4th.....Mike Massey may have been 3rd I can't remember the details.
I don't like these rules, they lack the strategic element that is essential in all games.
To me the game needs the "DARE FACTOR" and the "TWO WAY SHOTS" to be entertaining. These two elements are rarely seen in ONE FOUL, and they are very prevalent in TWO FOUL RULES.
"The game of pool is perfect, we just have to uncover that perfection" - 'The Game is the Teacher'
Old Nine Baller
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bdorman said:
This thread will help.
ONB
Or this one:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=347854
It depends on whether you're playing two fouls by the same player or any two fouls, but both are discussed in the above link.
Old Nine Baller
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That thread has as much misinformation in it as this thread ended up with after CJ, Jay and a few others posted their "only ways to play two-foul" ideas.
The point is that guys can play by any version they like. I tried to make clear in the 1st post in this thread the 3 ways that I knew of playing and others went on a nut claiming there was only one true way or two true ways to play.
The main truth is this; If you gamble at 9 Ball and want to protect your money, then Any-Two and everything spots up on a foul is the best way to play. "Protect your money" doesn't mean you will always win, it means if you lose you were given a fair shot and were outplayed. That's all we can hope for, in the end.
ONB
2 foul will be a good way to protect your money...coz very few matchups will made under those rules.
In fact, the only better way to protect it that I can think of: stay home.
:grin:
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I love playing 2 foul , or roll out as we call it around home . It will separate the players from those who think they are players
I grew up playing in a 2 foul , ring game that went on about everyday in Ralph Braswell's place the original corner pocket in Beaumont Texas . and it was a stout game . I I had every dollar bill I donated , 2 bucks at a time learning this game , I could easily afford a nice European Vacation and fly first class
I love playing 2 foul , or roll out as we call it around home . It will separate the players from those who think they are players
I grew up playing in a 2 foul , ring game that went on about everyday in Ralph Braswell's place the original corner pocket in Beaumont Texas . and it was a stout game . I I had every dollar bill I donated , 2 bucks at a time learning this game , I could easily afford a nice European Vacation and fly first class
Before any match, rules must be gone over if not that's stupid, bad business on both sides. And I make a stipulation that if we confront a situation with a ruling that we both disagree on by not explaining it up front, we'll flip a coin and winner chooses the 1st rule, and if an second situation arises, then the other shooter will make the call and so forth.
Old Nine Baller
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Wow, I learn something new here everyday
. I never heard of a 2 Foul Ring Game. It sounds like a good way for "partners" in a game to manipulate the game though
.We always just tried to hit the object ball as hard as we could (in a ring game) when there was no good shot, after all, you may not get back to the table again so you may as well take a shot at shitting something in.
I could see fights if other players in the game didn't like where you pushed out, it's their money too.
ONB
Most ring games I played in were honest attempt at the object ball. Not hitting the object ball wasn't BIH and the next player was stuck with the leave, good or bad.
Occasionally I played in roll out ring games. If you didn't have a shot, you had to call a push. The next player shooting gave it back to you or took the shot. It rarely got passed back. We'd usually be playing on bar boxes and riding the 9 was part of the game. Even with top players.
Best,
Mike
Occasionally I played in roll out ring games. If you didn't have a shot, you had to call a push. The next player shooting gave it back to you or took the shot. It rarely got passed back. We'd usually be playing on bar boxes and riding the 9 was part of the game. Even with top players.
Best,
Mike
Wow, I learn something new here everyday
We always just tried to hit the object ball as hard as we could (in a ring game) when there was no good shot, after all, you may not get back to the table again so you may as well take a shot at shitting something in.
I could see fights if other players in the game didn't like where you pushed out, it's their money too.
ONB
We played honest effort too, but incoming could return shot to prior shooter if foul occurred.
We would not have played, I guess.
I would ONLY play 'two fouls by the same player, ball in hand'.
The way I see it, the onus should remain on the guy who took the first foul.
If he pushed out to his favorite shot, I would push back to mine....
....now he can shoot or say shoot again.
That's the way I liked to play. If I couldn't out shoot them I would outthink them.
Old Nine Baller
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Nothing wrong with "2 by same player", I just liked "any two" better, that's all.
PT, you talk about the onus should be on the first player to foul. I figure that if you miss and hook me and I'm forced to pushout it's not exactly my error that forced my pushout. Just another way to look at the same thing, that's all.
As I've said previously, where I played only the weaker players wanted to play "two by same player". They wanted to ensure they couldn't be out-pushed by a better player.
I never refused to play "two by same player", I just rarely saw it. "Any Two" was the norm.
ONB
I never had any problem with playing any two fouls but there were exceptions. As a matter of fact I preferred it if I was the better shot maker.
When I played guys like Keith, Cole, Louie Roberts any others like that, guys that could make balls from anywhere I liked two by the same man.
You let these guys start flying at shots and they get hot the game will not last long. Most of the time they could afford to take those pot shots because mostly they were being staked. I tried to take those types of shots away from them. I always played with my own so I needed to be more cautious.
I like this way of thinking. You never knew how strong a gear these guys would catch once they got started.
Best,
Mike
That's interesting! I, also, have never played two by the same player but I would imagine it'a quite a different game.
Old Nine Baller
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Since this post was made in December of 2013 I suppose you are just about ready to put up the documentary on Two Shot Shoot Out.
We're waiting.
ONB
Sure, pj, you will be pleasantly pleased.....maybe.
Originally Posted by CJ Wiley View Post
We have been devoting all out time to finishing up this million dollar documentary on Earl, then maybe I'll put one together on 'Two Shot Shoot Out'. This game is 100 times better than one foul from the spectators standpoint, although there's a "magic bullet" involved to produce it correctly, and we have the right person interested here in Texas.
Originally Posted by CJ Wiley View Post
We have been devoting all out time to finishing up this million dollar documentary on Earl, then maybe I'll put one together on 'Two Shot Shoot Out'. This game is 100 times better than one foul from the spectators standpoint, although there's a "magic bullet" involved to produce it correctly, and we have the right person interested here in Texas.