Two shafts...obsessive?

[Chopdoc]

Obviously, a tip can fall off, or you can get a bad dent in a shaft in a fit of anger or clumsiness. That's the basic reason for a second shaft.

Me, I like as many shafts as possible. It depends on the joint pin obviously, but the more shafts you can carry with you, the more fun you have.

For my 5/16 X 14 pin joint cues, I would say I have approximately 30 shafts.

And you asked about only two?

Think about it...

All the best,
WW

Don't limit my shafts...

LOL!


Yeah.....

I think you have me beat. I'll guess I have about half that in 5/16 x 14 pin shafts.....maybe a few more than half that...but not much more...



I like to think more cues is more fun. I love trying them side by side and really experiencing the differences. :thumbup:

 

[Pushout]

NOT having two has never made any sense to me. Tips can still come off, even with the improvement in glue, nicks appear from setting their cue down too close to mine or any of a hundred other reasons. I've always tried to get both shafts as near the same size as possible. Tips are always the same.
That old saw about an "unplayed" shaft being a selling point, never seen it in all the 55 years since I started playing. I've never, ever, had someone say "Gee, I'd buy it if both shafts weren't used." I've never even HEARD of this happening. I think it's a myth.
Just seems like common sense to me to have at least two shafts. I don't know about anyone else, but my fingers swell from time to time and I need to change to the thinner of however many shafts I have for that cue.
Hell no, it's NOT obsessive!

 

[Chopdoc]

That old saw about an "unplayed" shaft being a selling point, never seen it in all the 55 years since I started playing. I've never, ever, had someone say "Gee, I'd buy it if both shafts weren't used." I've never even HEARD of this happening. I think it's a myth.

I don't think it's about whether or not one would buy the cue. I think it makes it more attractive for sale and gets more money with an unplayed shaft or two...especially if we are talking collector cues.


I have a cue made about 1991. It came with two shafts. I got it a couple years ago with one shaft unplayed. I would have bought it anyway, but I did knowingly pay a little more for it since it had an unplayed shaft.

First thing I did was chalk and play that shaft. :thumbup:


I don't think there really is any myth, just as you are saying. Nobody really says they won't buy a used cue on the secondary market unless it is unchalked. They will pay more if it has not been chalked though.


A car with new tires sells easier. Lower miles gets you more money for it too. Same kind of thing.




An extreme example: I have a buddy that has had a big block late sixties SS Camaro since the late seventies. In his garage on a stand is the original big block with less than 2,000 miles on it. Barely broke in. In the car is another motor, identical except for the VIN number. The car gets driven occasionally...but zero miles are going on that original motor.

 

[Maniac]

I have two shafts for most of my playing cues, but you may find the reason for it to be strange.

I like to play with a bare bridge hand, but down here in Texas it can get nasty hot and humid, causing my hands to sweat. When that happens, I go to a glove on my bridge hand.

That said, most of the double shafts on my playing cues have a different diameter to them....about .25mm smaller on the shaft I use when I play with a glove. It sort of creates the same feel in my bridge hand. YMMV

Maniac

 

[skins]

I have been playing pool for 55 years. I have owned and I have made many cues. I never have had more than 1 shaft for any cue I have owned............ to me a second shaft seems to be unnecessary and only for a sales pitch............

kim

Yeah, who needs spare tires either.....:duck:

 

[Chopdoc]

I have two shafts for most of my playing cues, but you may find the reason for it to be strange.

I like to play with a bare bridge hand, but down here in Texas it can get nasty hot and humid, causing my hands to sweat. When that happens, I go to a glove on my bridge hand.

That said, most of the double shafts on my playing cues have a different diameter to them....about .25mm smaller on the shaft I use when I play with a glove. It sort of creates the same feel in my bridge hand. YMMV

Maniac

Wow! I never thought of that! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:




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[Chopdoc]

Yeah, who needs spare tires either.....:duck:

Spare? Isn't that what these are for?

 

[peter_gunn]

I have one shaft for my playing cue, and two shafts for the break cue. Go figure

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[galipeau]

Two original shafts are not entirely necessary unless you play tournaments regularly or gamble. I always prefer an original shaft if I'm looking to buy in the open market. Two is nice, but not always necessary.

I only carry one original, and one LD shaft to use for snooker games on my playing cue. I dislike having unnecessary things in my case, so I only pack the essentials. Sometimes I'll even go out solely with my 1x1 case,... how do I survive?!?!?!



Haha, it's all personal. I've seen guys with 5 shafts or more that they carry around daily. To each their own! My tip is nearing the end of it's life, so I will have to replace it soon. Not too hard as I do them myself, just have to maintain your gear well and keep an eye on it as you use it.

 

[Chopdoc]

Two original shafts are not entirely necessary unless you play tournaments regularly or gamble. I always prefer an original shaft if I'm looking to buy in the open market. Two is nice, but not always necessary.

I only carry one original, and one LD shaft to use for snooker games on my playing cue. I dislike having unnecessary things in my case, so I only pack the essentials. Sometimes I'll even go out solely with my 1x1 case,... how do I survive?!?!?!



Haha, it's all personal. I've seen guys with 5 shafts or more that they carry around daily. To each their own! My tip is nearing the end of it's life, so I will have to replace it soon. Not too hard as I do them myself, just have to maintain your gear well and keep an eye on it as you use it.

I have a nice 1x1 It's George case for such occasions. :thumbup:



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[cubswin]

Have a sneaky, that the shafts are different tapers. It was done on purpose, and it makes the cue play differently depending on the shaft. I'll probably have the thicker one turned down at some point.

Usually I get shafts that are as close to possible to being the same. The advantage is getting to try different tips out if I want.

Reality is I usually use one of the shafts when I have multiple shafts. I find my favorite and use it. Not really needed, as I usually have 2-3 playing cues with me, and can play about the same with any of them.

 

[jazznpool]

I've long considered the second shaft a spare in case the tip on my primary shaft needs replacement or pops off. When I played American snooker and golf I needed a smaller diameter shaft for those games.

I've gone through several shafts sets with my primary cues due to going down and then back up in tip diameter.

 

[GoldCrown]

Spare? Isn't that what these are for?

Are these for sale... I might PM with an offer.

Lately I buy cues with one shaft (that most likely will never get used) as I tend to add a Predator to it. I have a few 314's & OB's with UniLoc
Are 2 shafts obsessive? Not really...just part of a collection.

 

[asiasdad]

For what most of the nicer cues cost these days I believe if you
do not get 2 shafts with the cue, then you are getting the shaft.

 

[Chopdoc]

Are these for sale... I might PM with an offer.

Yeah?


Well, I pulled one off a really nice Espiritu cue I bought a few years ago.

I would sell you that one...but it will cost you because it was on a custom. LOL!





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[JohnnyOzone]

Yeah?


Well, I pulled one off a really nice Espiritu cue I bought a few years ago.

I would sell you that one...but it will cost you because it was on a custom. LOL!
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You should have sent a pic to Russ so he could track down the previous owner and kill him.
Gotta maintain respect, you know.

 

[mortuarymike-nv]

To funny

Everyone wants a second shaft just incase a tip pops off .

And everyone and their mother says they never had a tip they installed fall off :killingme:

 

[philly]

I really prefer that any of my good cues have two original shafts. In fact I find myself feeling very strongly about it.

I have three or four shafts for some of my good cues.

Is it obsessive?


How do you feel about it?

What is your reasoning for having two shafts if you prefer it?

I have three or four shafts for some of my good cues.




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I can't see why you would need more than 2 shafts for each butt.

 

[Ched]

For many (MANY) years I lived with 2 cues: A Meucci WTB that was my "loaner" for friends, and my Huebler - which I had a 2nd shaft made for when I had it refinished. I really only needed the second shaft a few times (tip issues), but it was a lifesaver when I needed it.

Now: early this year I started buying a few new cues. For the "Good" cues (Joss, Schon, etc.), 'I gots me sone of dem new fangled LD shafts', rather than a second factory shaft. I'm still experimenting, but I think I'm pretty much done buying.*

Most (if not all) of my "second shafts" are either the 5/16x14 or 18. (I've just never been a McDermott fan, although I do have 1 Lucky) I've considered getting a second shaft for my Peachauer or Lucasi - but since they won't replace my Joss .. I probably won't.

The conclusions I've reached at this point: (for me)
I want/like the 12.25 to 12.5 tips on my player.
I want/like having a jump/break cue in addition to my "player" (13.25 - 13.5 tip)
I want/like having a second shaft for my player.
And yes - if I'm just going out to practice a bit, I'll travel light and just take a 1x1 case.

* (the possible exception being a Mezz or Jacoby towards the end of the year)

 

[trinacria]

If I were to give advice to new guys, id say buy one cue with one shaft and play 3 thousand games on that combo until you know exactly how the cue reacts. Having more than one shaft for one cue just makes it harder to get over the fact that every cue isn't the same. It's a road to a hell you can't some out of. Lol. I'm on cue 25 and shaft one hundred. Best cue I ever owned for my need and game was a fury sneaky with a dale perry shaft. Yup, two Chepos, got the fury butt for 75 and the shaft from a eBay cue. Hated the perry cue but the pin was the same and I put it on the fury and it was a magical combo. I couldn't get over the fact that the shaft collar was a half mm to big for the butt and I sold it, but it's still the best combo I had. I finally found a sweet spot with my schon/Jacoby combo that reminds me of that cue. I've owned $1800 cues, my current set up is 1k plus, but a 75 dollar butt and a left over shaft worked for me. I do have a pre cat 314 as a second shaft and yes, there is comfort in knowing I have a extra shaft when my other one is out of commission for whatever reason.


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