Unethical or Just Lucky?

[bumpypickle]

I get crazy, I'm sorry.

Bro,,,, GET OVER IT!!


If race only matters to racist people, than you are the biggest one in here! You are the one who turned it into a huge issue, and will not let it go. Your further rant about race seems to back it up.


It was his story, he is free to tell it however he chooses with as many or as few details as he wishes. If he chose to say what color house she lived in, it does not matter.

I am white. If I tell a story, I might say " a goofy looking white guy came in wearing a pink sleeveless shirt........" So what? I am trying to paint a picture. The fact that the guy was white and wearing a pink shirt may have NOTHING to do with the actual story, but it gives a better overall picture of what is happening and to whom.

I was talking recently about something that happened many years ago. It was about driving. It was not important to the story that I was driving my 72 gold cutlass with the chrome superstock rims, but I put it in there anyway. I could have just said " I was going fast". I wanted to paint a more detailed picture. That is what storytelling is.

Do you want to read a book that says " A long time ago some things happened to some people.... The END." Or would you like a bit more details?


Get over it, move on. You are reading way too much into ot.

We get what you are trying to say, and you are looking more ridiculous everytime you say it.


Jw

I hate stuff like this and I'm trying to wrap gifts with my girlfriend right now. I just asked why her race was so relevant after he said it was and I got blasted. I'm ignorant, low IQ, bad comprehension, an ass, a huge ass, etc. I get what you're saying, I'll chill.

 

[Dartman]

... The very least he could have done was to go back and give her at least half of it out of the blue, as I'm sure it would have been appreciated.
Karma takes care of those ,too.....

The right way to do it would have been offer to sell the cue for the lady and take a finders fee.
A legitimate sale and found money for the dealer.

 

[poolpro]

"Hypothetical" scenario.

A widow is disposing of some of her recently-deceased husband's possessions, including an old pool cue. The cue-ignorant widow is advised to contact Knowledgeable Cue Dealer (KCD) to discuss the cue. KCD goes to her house, inspects the cue, and asks her how much she wants for it. She says she doesn't know, it has just been lying around in the attic for most of the past 35 years, .............., how about $250? KCD pays her the money and leaves with the cue.

The next day, KCD calls one of his cue-collecting customers and sells the highly inlaid Balabushka cue for $25,000.

Was KCD unethical, just lucky, or something else?

Hey pickle! Lets use the story that started this thread. Was it REALLY necessary to say she was a widow? He could have said "woman". I think it is rude, he must have something against widows, otherwise why mention it at all? In fact he even called her cue IGNORANT! See, see. I told he hated widows!! Burn him!

He did not have to say it was " highly inlaid" either. He must have issues with fancy cues!

You are slipping! You missed all of these details! How dare someone clutter up this thread with details! Shame, shame, shame!

Go get him!! uttahere:

 

[JB Cases]

strippers know that the more they get someone to believe they have a chance with them the more cash they get.

And???? I think everyone knows that. When was the last time a stripper made money who tells all their clients that they are fat, bald, have bad breath and couldn't get laid in room full of blind nymphos?

Like I said it's a paid performance.

 

[Dartman]

Hang out with the unethical cue dealer who just made a $25K score and you will find out what strippers and cue sales have in common. I bet he -hypothetically - made a few strippers happy that night.

Ehh, not the sort I would associate with but I can see a few here that
would probably be right at home with that concept.

 

[poolplayer2093]

And???? I think everyone knows that. When was the last time a stripper made money who tells all their clients that they are fat, bald, have bad breath and couldn't get laid in room full of blind nymphos?

Like I said it's a paid performance.

they're pretending they're interested in the fat bald guy and the cue dealer is pretending the cue is worth less than it is

 

[bumpypickle]

Just some info

those organizations don't promote one race over another. they don't claim that their race is better in any way. they were started because those minority groups weren't represented in the Miss usa pagent. meaning that at one point (talking history here) it wasn't called the "white miss usa pagent" but it was whites only.

Miss Black USA was started in 1987. Black women have been in the Miss USA pageant since 1970.

 

[poolpro]

I hate stuff like this and I'm trying to wrap gifts with my girlfriend right now. I just asked why her race was so relevant after he said it was and I got blasted. I'm ignorant, low IQ, bad comprehension, an ass, a huge ass, etc. I get what you're saying, I'll chill.

It's cool. Just seeing you were getting all worked up. Trying to put a bit of perspective.


I actually do agree with SOME of your comments. I just think your attack on SA was getting ridiculous.

By definition anything based solely on race is racism. So yes, by definitioin Black miss america, negro college fund, etc would be racist organizations. The theory is that they are correcting a long standing wrong against them. But it is still racism. I have heard the term reverse racism, which is really interesting. Racism is racism, period. I feel that this kind of thing actually perpetuates racism and separation. It is actually doing the very thing that it professes to be against. It is very ironic indeed. When will it end? I wonder how long is long enough to be "even". Probably never.

In my opinion, racism is pure ignorance. Plain and simple. No matter which direction, or by whom.


Jw

 

[bumpypickle]

I'm CHILLING.

Hey pickle! Lets use the story that started this thread. Was it REALLY necessary to say she was a widow? He could have said "woman". I think it is rude, he must have something against widows, otherwise why mention it at all? In fact he even called her cue IGNORANT! See, see. I told he hated widows!! Burn him!

He did not have to say it was " highly inlaid" either. He must have issues with fancy cues!

You are slipping! You missed all of these details! How dare someone clutter up this thread with details! Shame, shame, shame!

Go get him!! uttahere:

He said it was "relevant".

 

[poolplayer2093]

Miss Black USA was started in 1987. Black women have been in the Miss USA pageant since 1970.

keep up with a lot of pageants? black people have been free in america for a long time, but haven't been looked at as or treated equally for most of that time.

 

[ShootingArts]

so why do they still exist?

those organizations don't promote one race over another. they don't claim that their race is better in any way. they were started because those minority groups weren't represented in the Miss usa pagent. meaning that at one point (talking history here) it wasn't called the "white miss usa pagent" but it was whites only.

So why do they still exist?


Sam and bumpy,

You are both getting things so crossed up I'll let you both reread tomorrow and see if you can correct your own posts.

Hu

 

[poolplayer2093]

So why do they still exist?


Sam and bumpy,

You are both getting things so crossed up I'll let you both reread tomorrow and see if you can correct your own posts.

Hu

How am i getting crossed up? what did i post that needs correcting? Why is it you always seem so condescending in these posts? speaking of correcting posts i think your last sentence should have been 2.

They still exist because minorities in this country still aren't treated/represented equally.

 

[JB Cases]

they're pretending they're interested in the fat bald guy and the cue dealer is pretending the cue is worth less than it is

So the woman with the cue ASKED to be lied to?

I don't really get your analogy here?

Are you saying that men go to strip clubs wanting the women to tell them how they really feel?

I mean come on - out all the examples in the world you are going to equate strippers who perform and act out male fantasies for a living to a person who lies to steal things?

Ok, let's do that then. The guy goes into a strip club and says to the stripper, tell me what you think about me and I will give you $100. She says, oh baby you are the best looking hottest guy on earth. If she doesn't feel that way then she lied to get the money, i.e. did something UNETHICAL. If the guy doesn't say anything and she oozes all over him then she is not obligated to be honest because he didn't ASK for her honesty - he is PAYING for her performance.

Did the widow ASK the KCD for his honest opinion as to the value of the cue? I think it's safe to assume that she did. Did KCD then give her his honest opinion? I think it's safe to assume that he didn't. Ergo, he LIED to get the money and was UNETHICAL about it.

There is a reason why strippers are called entertainers. They are paid to entertain. The better they are at it the more they make. Any sucker who believes them has bigger issues he needs to deal with.

The poor widow in our story wasn't asking to be entertained, she was asking to be advised by an expert.

Let's change KCD to doctor and say that she was asking advice for a condition and he KNOWINGLY prescribed her a procedure that was not needed but that the insurance company would pay $25,000 to him for doing. Would that be ethical?

 

[bumpypickle]

Still no answer.

So why do they still exist?


Sam and bumpy,

You are both getting things so crossed up I'll let you both reread tomorrow and see if you can correct your own posts.

Hu

They exist because there are a lot of racists in our country and promoting racism is a profitable business. let me know what I need to correct and I told you you would have a hard time explaining your way out of it.

 

[Jadssons]

They exist because there are a lot of racists in our country and promoting racism is a profitable business. let me know what I need to correct and I told you you would have a hard time explaining your way out of it.

Are you serious? This statement alone says alot about your character.

 

[poolplayer2093]

So the woman with the cue ASKED to be lied to?

I don't really get your analogy here?

Are you saying that men go to strip clubs wanting the women to tell them how they really feel?

I mean come on - out all the examples in the world you are going to equate strippers who perform and act out male fantasies for a living to a person who lies to steal things?

Ok, let's do that then. The guy goes into a strip club and says to the stripper, tell me what you think about me and I will give you $100. She says, oh baby you are the best looking hottest guy on earth. If she doesn't feel that way then she lied to get the money, i.e. did something UNETHICAL. If the guy doesn't say anything and she oozes all over him then she is not obligated to be honest because he didn't ASK for her honesty - he is PAYING for her performance.

Did the widow ASK the KCD for his honest opinion as to the value of the cue? I think it's safe to assume that she did. Did KCD then give her his honest opinion? I think it's safe to assume that he didn't. Ergo, he LIED to get the money and was UNETHICAL about it.

There is a reason why strippers are called entertainers. They are paid to entertain. The better they are at it the more they make. Any sucker who believes them has bigger issues he needs to deal with.

The poor widow in our story wasn't asking to be entertained, she was asking to be advised by an expert.

Let's change KCD to doctor and say that she was asking advice for a condition and he KNOWINGLY prescribed her a procedure that was not needed but that the insurance company would pay $25,000 to him for doing. Would that be ethical?

Now what i'm about to say sounds bad i know. The woman didn't invite the guy to lie to her, but she should have expected to be lied to. especially when he made an offer to buy the cue.

whenever i talk to someone that has something to gain from dealing with me, i listen to what they have to say and try to figure out how much is true. it saved me 500ish for a new radiator

 

[bumpypickle]

Serious about what?

Are you serious? This statement alone says alot about your character.

You don't understand that the promotion of the seperation of the races is a business? What does knowing this have to do with my character? If there was no racism in this country think of how many politicians, college students, police officers, firemen, churches, etc. would not have jobs or be out of business? Racism exists on so many levels, some of which have been accepted by society. The perfect examples are hate crime laws. Laws that punish criminals more if the crime is commited against a different race. (only if the victim is not white of course) What makes one victim worth more than another if we are all equal?

 

[JB Cases]

Now what i'm about to say sounds bad i know. The woman didn't invite the guy to lie to her, but she should have expected to be lied to. especially when he made an offer to buy the cue.

whenever i talk to someone that has something to gain from dealing with me, i listen to what they have to say and try to figure out how much is true. it saved me 500ish for a new radiator

Maybe so but the question as I read it was what we thought of KCD's behavior not hers. Putting it on her is the same as saying someone asks to be raped when they wear a short skirt.

In a civilized world we don't take advantage of every person and situation that we can just because we can.

 

[Jadssons]

You don't understand that the promotion of the seperation of the races is a business? What does knowing this have to do with my character? If there was no racism in this country think of how many politicians, college students, police officers, firemen, churches, etc. would not have jobs or be out of business? Racism exists on so many levels, some of which have been accepted by society. The perfect examples are hate crime laws. Laws that punish criminals more if the crime is commited against a different race. (only if the victim is not white of course) What makes one victim worth more than another if we are all equal?

Basically, you are justifying racism on a financial level when in fact it isn't justifiable on ANY level. If there werent different degrees of punishment for breaking the law, then the punishment for a traffic ticket and murder would be the same.

 

[JB Cases]

You don't understand that the promotion of the seperation of the races is a business? What does knowing this have to do with my character? If there was no racism in this country think of how many politicians, college students, police officers, firemen, churches, etc. would not have jobs or be out of business? Racism exists on so many levels, some of which have been accepted by society. The perfect examples are hate crime laws. Laws that punish criminals more if the crime is commited against a different race. (only if the victim is not white of course) What makes one victim worth more than another if we are all equal?

Blacks have been punished under hate crimes laws as well for crimes against other races that were fueled by hate as the motivation. Laws to protect minorities are a responsibility of a democratic society.